what can i do with 9 month old colt

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I read the first 4 pages and then jumped to the last as almost everyone seemed to be very very critical, jumping to conclusions, making amazing assumptions and generally making asses of themselves without giving the op any help at all. Now assuming the op is genuine there are lots of things you can do with a 9 month old colt (as well as geld him!!). And turning him out "to be a horse" is no more helpful than letting a toddler run wild in the garden with no guidance!!!

So. To recap. You need to build his confidence in being handled. Allow you to pick up each leg and tap it with something, rasp it. Or allow you to rub him all the way down the leg without picking it up. This means you need a "pick up" signal. Such as a squeeze to the chestnut or hock.......Can he do this without restraint while in the paddock (sorry field!!)? Does he understand following a steady feel? Such as leading (do you relax the feel as you should when he is doing it correctly?) Does he respond to rhythmic pressure? Does he stand still with rhythmic motion going on around him? Rugs flapping, umbrellas opening etc while you have a relaxed body language? Does he "follow a feel" so you can squeeze him past you through narrow spaces? As has been mentioned, grooming all over, is he happy with clippers, a hose, going into a float (trailer?) having a rug put on and off (not just carefully, but flung over - take it in stages). As has also been said walks around learning about different things and places, up and down slopes and banks, around machinery, road cones etc. All these things need to be done in small doses and increases made in small increments. And rewards often for good behaviour. Not necessarily food rewards, just a stop, rub and reassurance. Going back to the rhythmic motion, can he stand rhythmic motion while maintaing a walk? It's a good idea to have a long lead (at least 12' as he gets used to it it can be longer) so he can follow behind while you do something, like swing a rope, drag a tarp on a shorter lead, wave a stick with a flag on the end....use your imagination!!! He need to learn to move his forehand and hindquarters to pressure from your fingertips. Remember the "drive line", pressure in front of it means move forehand, pressure behind (especially where your heel will eventually be used) to move his hindquarters. See if he crosses his hindlegs (that's good!) That's the start of a turn on the forehand!! Also useful when boxed to ask him to move over!!
I have raised several foals to be responsible riding horses and these guidelines have worked every time. Without wanting to raise the temperature of the thread again the Parelli games are the basis of handling young horses. They make sense to the horses..... Here we have basically covered the first 3 games and game 7......It's really a case of commonsense, consistency, establishing a language and building confidence.....
Good luck OP, I hope you are still reading this thread and haven't been put off owning horses by now!!!
 

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Alyth I have to say that I read your post with great interest and you sound like an extremely knowledgeable and helpful person. Thank goodness there are horsey people out there with the patience and non-judgemental attitude that many others do have on here.

I love the sound of your techniques and if I ever bring on a youngster myself I will be asking for your advice for sure!! :)
 

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Alyth I have to say that I read your post with great interest and you sound like an extremely knowledgeable and helpful person. Thank goodness there are horsey people out there with the patience and non-judgemental attitude that many others do have on here.

I love the sound of your techniques and if I ever bring on a youngster myself I will be asking for your advice for sure!! :)

Thank you for the compliment! I must say horses (and ponies!) have been my passion for almost all my life (now an oap!) and I have learned SO MUCH from so many people that it is only fair to pass on what I have found to be good methods of doing things!!! My mother taught me that if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all!!! And that has been very useful advice to remember at times!!! You do learn to bite your tongue and let actions speak louder than words. In this day and age of the internet there is a lot of information - and a lot of misinformation - and it is up to the individual to think carefully about what they are doing, to take things slowly and look at the results, take action according to the results. Don't take anything for granted and most of all don't believe everything you are told!!!!!!! Have as much fun with your horses and I have had with mine - and remember your concience!!! That's my sermon for the day/week/month/year/decade!!
 

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the receptionist said they dont geld till end of feb and theres only a small time slot to do it in as to cold before hand but to hot in summer i no summer was because of the flies but why would it be to cold

Ours will be done next month providing we don't have rampant snow like the last few years...

There's a few issues with wintry/cold weather... Lots of mud around if they roll/lie down with an open wound; a youngster who's immune system will be all go preventing infection and doesn't need his body distracted with maintaining warmth; the wound needs a nice blood supply to heal which could be effected if it's cold enough for the blood vessels to contract, raw edges and drainage could cause frostbite; if you need to wash blood/drainage off or cold hose the area that could be difficult if the ambient temperature could freeze water... We've had quite a mild winter really but I'd not fancy booting our baby out in the mud we've got at the moment with a nice open wound and slippery ground...

I would rather give sensible advice to a troll, than risk being rude and unhelpful to someone who actually needed it.

And you get peeps like me who also have a baby and love picking up snippets of information on baby handling or seeing other suggestions/experiences... :)

We've got a three (in March) year old who came off the field a few months ago and the 8mth foal... The foal is probably doing as much as the three year old so far as handling's concerned - and he's learnt much faster when introduced to rugs, fiddling with feet etc... He plays very readily though and is hugely inquisitive, whereas the three year old is a rather serious chap who likes to think about everything for a while - so it's been a bit easier making 'learning games' with the baby... The foal wasn't bothered with trotting poles on the floor or walking over tarpaulin because he was too busy playing tag with my husband in the school... The older lad isn't spooky but he just needs to eye up everything in quite a considered way and approach things more slowly... No rush for either of them to 'have' to do anything though really...
 

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thanks for the advise will work with different objects with him umbrellas ect for a while think thats my best approach at the min plenty to indroduce still lol thankyou for post
 

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Get him ready for the vet/gelding...

Check both are descended and he's happy to be groped around his nads, have his tail moved and rubbed between his back legs... Don't want him to be unduly alarmed or start kicking out when the vet shows up and starts poking and prodding around there... :)
 

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I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this yet (too many posts to trawl through), but you could get him used to different surfaces under his feet. A youngster I was working with (must have been about 9 or 10 months old) used to come for walks with me around the yard and surrounding fields - just spending time looking and sniffing at everything, jumped sky high when he felt gravel under his feet. Someone had spilt some on the grass, I had missed it, but foalie stepped on it.
We spent days just walking over and around this 12'' by 12'' patch! We sat down near it, and had coffee, and grass :D, and then played with it some more.

Your boy looks lovely, BTW, going to be big!!

There really is some useful advice to be given on here - everyone has loads to offer, but on a Friday night, after indulging in the strong stuff, the mood can get a little .....um.....off kilter! :D
 

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wow, maybe now would be a good time NOT to ask for advice on my young colt as its the first time i've owned a colt, do you think i could take him back and swap for a baby mare instead? oh, and possibly seek JFTD's help on common english. she may even be able to sort my dyslexia whilst we are there.

Theres my mistakes out of the way and grammar issues explained.

I also never read in the terms and conditions that untill you've reached X posts you are considered a 'troll' could anyone shed any light on what a 'troll' is please?

Although i did read item 6.1 of the t&c's and i'm pretty damn sure a few posts breach this term. Now theres some food for thought.

Back on topic, kylee, where is your colt from? he looks EXTREMELY simular to my young lad. Feel free to PM me if you would'nt like to post on here.

I'm at the same stage as you with my colt, and did think about asking for any advice on here, after hearing to break him to drive as it will 'add value' i'm very greatful i did'nt.

By the way, i use an equine vet, he only deals with equines, and although he didnt say it was 'too cold' he did suggest not cutting him when the temperatures are at they're lowest, I also don't know why this was suggested and to be truthfull, did'nt question his opinion, he is the vet, not me.

please let me know how you find the books, it maybe worth a look into buying them myself.

kind regards, MV22

Just to explain the reasons why vets do not like to castrate in extremely cold weather; extrematies (fingers,toes,ears & scrotum) have a rather poor blood supply when the weather is very cold,& because of this,it can delay the healing process:)
 

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Wow poor OP for some of the replies she has had!

All i can suggest is castrate and let him be a baby. You see far too many people rush them at a young age, let him go and be a baby till he is ready to start basics. Between that spend some time with him also, touching him all over - picking up feet, getting him used to you being all around him. Brush him etc.

Good luck, hes a cutie!
 

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Maybe. But the OP has got the foal now, so it's too late for that advice. :rolleyes:

Assuming OP is a real person and not a troll winding us all up, at least she's here asking for advice, which is a start. For the sake of this little foal, wouldn't it be better to give good advice/recommended reading etc rather than just taking the p**s?

Agree entirely as this thread seems to be filled with so much nonsensical drivel!
To OP get him gelded as soon as you can. I have seen that vet said to do in March, tbh I would try getting him done asap. This month if at all possible and before the weather warms up as come middle of March it really can be spring weather.
You seem to have done quite a lot with him already.
TBH I would just consider turning him out with others once gelded and let him remain a youngster as part of a herd and learn about the social hierarchy of horses.
Depending on his breeding and looks you could also consider showing him in youngstock classes. This would get him used to be bathed ( plaited depending on breed), loading and travelling and a good overall experience.
I got my youngster as a gelding aged just over 9 months old. Within a month he was bathed and taken to a show and behaved impeccably at all stages. He has been stabled and rugged, groomed etc, to get him used to being in. Now a rising 3 year old and turned away before being brought back around 4 to start with his education. As he is a cob x and late maturing type I don't want to blow his mind at a young age nor break in too early as I want a pony/horse for the long term and not something that may have problems by the time it is 10!
 

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I read the first 4 pages and then jumped to the last as almost everyone seemed to be very very critical, jumping to conclusions, making amazing assumptions and generally making asses of themselves without giving the op any help at all. Now assuming the op is genuine there are lots of things you can do with a 9 month old colt (as well as geld him!!). And turning him out "to be a horse" is no more helpful than letting a toddler run wild in the garden with no guidance!!!

So. To recap. You need to build his confidence in being handled. Allow you to pick up each leg and tap it with something, rasp it. Or allow you to rub him all the way down the leg without picking it up. This means you need a "pick up" signal. Such as a squeeze to the chestnut or hock.......Can he do this without restraint while in the paddock (sorry field!!)? Does he understand following a steady feel? Such as leading (do you relax the feel as you should when he is doing it correctly?) Does he respond to rhythmic pressure? Does he stand still with rhythmic motion going on around him? Rugs flapping, umbrellas opening etc while you have a relaxed body language? Does he "follow a feel" so you can squeeze him past you through narrow spaces? As has been mentioned, grooming all over, is he happy with clippers, a hose, going into a float (trailer?) having a rug put on and off (not just carefully, but flung over - take it in stages). As has also been said walks around learning about different things and places, up and down slopes and banks, around machinery, road cones etc. All these things need to be done in small doses and increases made in small increments. And rewards often for good behaviour. Not necessarily food rewards, just a stop, rub and reassurance. Going back to the rhythmic motion, can he stand rhythmic motion while maintaing a walk? It's a good idea to have a long lead (at least 12' as he gets used to it it can be longer) so he can follow behind while you do something, like swing a rope, drag a tarp on a shorter lead, wave a stick with a flag on the end....use your imagination!!! He need to learn to move his forehand and hindquarters to pressure from your fingertips. Remember the "drive line", pressure in front of it means move forehand, pressure behind (especially where your heel will eventually be used) to move his hindquarters. See if he crosses his hindlegs (that's good!) That's the start of a turn on the forehand!! Also useful when boxed to ask him to move over!!
I have raised several foals to be responsible riding horses and these guidelines have worked every time. Without wanting to raise the temperature of the thread again the Parelli games are the basis of handling young horses. They make sense to the horses..... Here we have basically covered the first 3 games and game 7......It's really a case of commonsense, consistency, establishing a language and building confidence.....
Good luck OP, I hope you are still reading this thread and haven't been put off owning horses by now!!!

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What a nasty lot horse people can be!

Well done OP for actually asking and seeking advice, shame on those of you who have posted spiteful remarks towards someone who is just wanting to do right by her horse!

I was very similar to you when I got my first foal. I was only a teenager and had only had my first pony a year or so. I didnt have all the answers and like you certainly had alot of questions!

Like others have said, forget the lunging, long reining etc and focus on all the other things. Think about everything that your foal is going to need to know about when hes ready to be backed, going in a trailer, getting tied up etc.
 

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Wow it was tiring just reading through this,we have quite a few youngsters and they all differ but as long as they will lead load are good with feet and with time come in on their own etc we let them mature in the field with others.

I would geld asap no lunging or long reining yet and even when he is old enough dont overdo the lunging.

If you want to do something get him out to a few shows it is good experience and makes it less exciting when they go to place as a ridden horse so they are usually calmer if they do this.

I think if you do bits little and often and he is well mannered you will not go wrong, if we have trouble with anything and they play up we do a bit of intensive work every day on that until they accept it then leave it alone and this seems to work well.

If you are willing to be firm but fair and ask for help if you need it you should be okay, there are plenty of experienced people who ruin youngsters , you dont seem to have much experience but seem willing to learn and ask advice so that wont see you far wrong
Just one thing always ask more than one persons advice on everything as some of the people who think they know everything sometimes do not or at least not the best way to do things.
And babies do all differ I have a rising three filly who is a little bizzim and so advanced she learns a new trick every day, she has had more work than some we have ,although no backing or anything like that but she needs lets say plenty of supervision or she gets totally out of control if left to do her own thing.

She does however relish the extra attention and is a good girl because of it, just follow your gut read alot then read some more and when you are not sure ask.
Good luck with your little man.
 

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Break him to drive. Gives him something to do, he earns his keep, you can do more road work without having to get off your backside. Win win situation...

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He is nine months old, so don't break to drive, he needs to be cut, then he will calm down, he needs other youngsters to play with, turn him out, and leave him to enjoy his early years with his friends.
He will be ready to break in three years.
 

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I know this thread is old, but ive also got a nine month old cob he was untouched when I bought him 5/6 weeks ago I got the head collar on him twice but with a struggle and the need of two people to get it back on him, he’s quite head shy also and this is aiding to the struggle. Can anyone give some pointers on this? Anything is appreciated. Thanks
 

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I know this thread is old, but ive also got a nine month old cob he was untouched when I bought him 5/6 weeks ago I got the head collar on him twice but with a struggle and the need of two people to get it back on him, he’s quite head shy also and this is aiding to the struggle. Can anyone give some pointers on this? Anything is appreciated. Thanks

Welcome to the forum - you may be better off starting a new thread, especially as this one derailed somewhat along the way. x
 
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