What is everyone breeding?

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There seems to be a HUGE amount of people on HHO who are breeding nowadays....I'm guessing that this is a general overview of the whole horsey-population; which brings me to the questions:

Are you all breeding pedigrees?

Why are you breeding; for yourselves or for the market of today....or the market of tomorrow?

Is this trend of breeding any old horse becoming greater than it previously was? Or are people just more talkative about it?

Do you agree with breeding crossbreds? Or should the bloodlines of foals only be carefully managed and should there be some controls on who breeds what?

Just interested.
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Sadly Im not breeding quite yet
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but if I was I would be breeding pure bred Irish Draughts and outcrosses to be exact.

In an ideal world, the mare would only go to R.I.D. stallions and the R.I.D. would be allowed cover a number of sports horses to achieve that Irish Sport Horse.

However, I think I would be very picky in my choices and definately would not be breeding for the sake of it!!! I have very specific preferences in terms of I.D. type.
Traditional all the way for me....
 
Well my 2 foals will hopefully make 148 performance ponies. They are New Forest X KWPN and TBH I'm pretty damn pleased with them so far
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I've had soooo many people see them and I haven't had one bad comment yet, not even from some very opionated and honest (even when you don't want them to be, lol) old coots
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I'm keeping them, as I want to show them and I just love them. My cousin has 2 very very horsey children who will prehaps compete them in SJing as they will be the right age......and who knows maybe for my kids aswell (I'm only 21 though)
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I'm hoping to get my DWB in-foal next year to Libro. And I would love to buy a graded broodmare one day, well hopefully soon. I want to breed quality pony and horse foals with good temperaments for competition.
 
Tell you what I'd love to have a decent Clydesdale mare and put her to a decent TB stallion aswell. Clydesdale X TBs are just FAB, great calm temperaments but forward going. The perfect hacking/hunter horse to me.

I've always loved crosses, and I don't think there should be a strict control on not being able to do so.
 
Well Bloss is a Norman Cob x Tb and the stallion is a Dutch Warmblood. Im breeding for myself (to compete) unless its too small for me, and in which case i will sell it on once ive backed it.
 
Not personally a breeder myself, but my personal feeling is that people should only be breeding for a specific purpose, and aiming to improve on the quality of the parents if possible. There are enough mediocre horses in the world already, so there is no need to breed more, unless the person is breeding only for themselves to keep the foal forever.

I think cross breeding is fine, provided both parents are good specimens to provide a quality foal.
 
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Well Bloss is a Norman Cob x Tb and the stallion is a Dutch Warmblood. Im breeding for myself (to compete) unless its too small for me, and in which case i will sell it on once ive backed it.

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Ill do you a deal and swap as i think mine is going to be to big for me !!! he he

I have bred my BWB mare to Balou du rouet and have an Oldenburg filly (that wont stop growing)

Then next year i have a lovely dressage broodmare that i have bred to produce a nice dressage foal !!
 
I'm breeding a single foal for my own satisfaction, as I wanted a bit of my beloved mare to keep forever.
She's a mongrel, being TBxQH with no known parentage. I looked for a stallion primarily that complimented Tills, and couldn't give two hoots about bloodlines personally. However, I chose to use a Welton stallion in the end as I realise that my circumstances may change and the saleabilty of the foal/youngster will be an issue, so I chose not to use a completely obscure stallion.
I'd like to possibly use an Australian Stock Horse on my other mare... but am worried that again potential saleabilty might be an issue
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In answer to your other questions...

The market of today/tomorrow - I personally think that the amateur market of today AND tomorrow are going to be similar. Horses that can perform whilst still being trainable, wellbuilt and therefore sound will always be in demand (think the type of horses that HenryHorn is breeding, the Weltons, the Ben Affaire lines etc). The professional market on the other hand I think is going to become even more expensive and elitist... with bloodlines being even more important to individuals than they are now, and possibly a more continental approach to breeding these horses within the UK.

I think breeding is becoming more accessible to people that wouldn't otherwise breed, and with the prospect of a mare out of action through injury possibly bredding from her seems to be a cheaper option than paying out to replace her? Horse prices these days are crazy after all...
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I obviously do agree with breeding crossbreds, but partly think that in the UK there should be more co-ordination of the breeding of purebreeds before we worry about who is breeding what in terms of cross breeds
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Though I'm in danger of 'doing an Airedale' I do think that British Breeding is abysmal at the moment, regarding the promotion of it more than the horses we produce, even if in desperately small numbers
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Interesting thread Tia!

I don't things are as bad here as they are in the US (and possibly Canada?) in terms of 'Backyard Breeders' breeding any old rubbish to any old rubbish, and not surprisingly producing yet more rubbish. Or breeding idiotic pointless random crosses of the 'Oooh I know, let's breed a Tennessee Walker cross Quarab to a Paint cross Appaloosa cross Friesian' variety.

Probably the only reason this is worse in the US is that land is so much cheaper - cos the same impulses are certainly increasingly evident over here, I think. There do seem to be more ignorant people breeding random rubbish - in particular breeding for colour with no regard for conformation or quality.

I see nothing wrong with cross-breeding in principle - after all, most of the top sport-horse breeds are the result of judicious crossing - providing the cross in question makes sense and is being bred for a purpose, not just on a whim.

I have a pure-bred Arab stallion at stud, but I do not breed any foals myself. I do accept non-Arab mares to him as well as pure-breds. Arab blood has always been used to refine and improve other breeds, and Arabs are well suited to this purpose - providing one uses high-quality Arabs, not just any old Arab.
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I haven't had one bad comment yet, not even from some very opionated and honest (even when you don't want them to be, lol) old coots

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PMSL!!! That'd be me eh?
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I'm just a hobby breeder and only do it once in a while as in my experience there is not really enough of a profit to do it on a large scale.

Right now I am at both ends of the spectrum; we had 2 foals born this year; 1 to our beloved little pony that we shipped over with us from England. She is nothing special breed-wise; she's a little 12.2hh Connemara X but temperamentally she is the most fantastic little pony in the whole world! She has wonderful conformation and an amazing mind. We've had her for 10 years and she is the light of our lives. She also has cancer and we know she will not be around forever - so this was a breeding of indulgence. Her foal, Legacy, is worthless to most people but she is everything to us and she will never leave this farm.

Our other foal, Breeze, is a very highly bred foal. She is worth a decent amount of money and she looks like she will be a very good stamp of the breed. Her mother has amazing breeding and her father has incredibly rare bloodlines. Both parents have the best temperaments you could ever ask for.

I bred both of my mares to my own stallion - the one mentioned above. So we have 1 foal which we will keep for ourselves; her pedigree on the top line is incredible and on the bottom line is non-existant LOL!! Versus the other foal whose whole pedigree is mind-blowing and she will not remain here as she is too valuable for us and having checked out the prices I'm not sure I have priced her correctly but I will stand by my figure which I have given to the buyer.

I sorta like the irony of it all.
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We breed both 'pedigree' - Trakehners and crossbreds, but all under the warmblood umbrella. The crossbreds tend to be Trakehner, Dutch and Hanoverian crosses.

I breed to sell, although do keep some fillies as future broodmares as I tend to think in generations and so will try and breed future broodmares, if that makes sense. I think you have to stick to your principles and sometimes that might mean you are not following todays latest trends and sometimes the current market coincides with what you breed. I think if you breed quality stock with a clear focus, whether for yourself or for the market, then there will always be a market for your 'product'
 
Are you all breeding pedigrees? my 06 filly is KWPN

Why are you breeding; for yourselves or for the market of today....or the market of tomorrow?i bred for myself but bred something very saleable in case i have to sell

Is this trend of breeding any old horse becoming greater than it previously was? Or are people just more talkative about it?
im not sure, i think more people have horses generally.never heard much about breeding though until recently, although could be cos im interested in it now and am looking for talk about it!LOL.

Do you agree with breeding crossbreds? Or should the bloodlines of foals only be carefully managed and should there be some controls on who breeds what?
CROSSBREDS can be as useful as pure, they generally have better temperments and suit the amateur producer more(not always obviously)
i think some controls on breeding would improve welfare and reduce the amount of unwanted, poor quality horses with uncertain futures.i think it would be easiest to do with with stallion owners/studs being regulated somehow, altghough obviously i wouldnt like to see them have to pay a fortune for it(breeding is a hard enough game)i suppose there would always be the bad studs/breeders who wouldnt bother with inspection etc and only take good mares-which are the exact people we need to crack down on!
 
I have just ventured into breeding so I will be breeding and producing horses very much one at a time. Although my Highland is very well bred and has done well at shows as a youngster and brood mare, this time round I am cross breeding to hopefully produce a small sport horse with an equally well bred and correct stallion of a lighter type. Future foals will be pure bred Highlands by the best possible stallion that compliments my girl and they will be for sale.

This one, however, will just be for me
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(unless it turns out to be as fabulous as I hope, in which case I might go back for another one
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Event horses.Had one this year by 'Mill Law' out of my own TB ADV mare.
I have only one mare in foal next year which is a Rhinelander mare who is also an ADV event horse put to 'Jumbo'
The 2nd one is very much a 'crossbred'
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as we will have TB, ID and Rhindlander(7/8 Trekhena)and yes i know i can't spell the T word
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I have in the past used a Connemara stallion to a TB and AA with exellent results.
 
Watcher..........of course this one will be fabulous for you and I am very, very envious
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Yours is one foal in particular I will be waiting to see, so, please don't disappear off the Forum. What will be the name of the cross though?
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Depends what you mean by "pedigrees". A "pedigree", strictly speaking, is only a list of parents/grandparents etc. Do you mean pure-bred? My foal is AngloArab x Dutch Warmblood so is technically a Warmblood Sports Horse. An Arab is a hotblood and a TB is a warmblood (as TBs were orginally Arabs x cold-blooded native breeds) nd the Dutch etc WBs are all crossbreeds anyway.

Like some of the others, I'm hoping she will make a nice competition horse for someone.
 
Easy peasy. I want to breed PF to the best jumping stallion I can afford... (ideally, my uncle's Habano, who's gorgeous and jumps like a stag) Got my eye on a couple of others though. I'd love to get a filly to keep for myself so that I could continue breeding in future (long term!)
Bloodlines are quite important, but so is a decent competition record - I wouldn't go by these alone however; I'd have to think the stallion would complement PF in temperament and conformation.
Anyhoo, that's just me.
 
I mean pedigree; the correct meaning of which, when relating to animals is, a list of ancestors of a purebred animal.
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Strictly speaking, if we want to get really technical, as you touched on, there aren't many true pedigreed horses around these days whatwith all the new breeds
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Htobago must feel a bit lonesome out there; there aren't many true breeders of true pedigreed horses, LOL!!
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I don't know so much, my pony's pedigree goes back 8 generations on paper and I guess could be traced all the way back to the start of the register and they are all pure bred hairy highlands. Similar could be said of many natives I imagine.

They may be small and hairy but they are still pure bred.
 
I'd think that even where natives are concerned, there really aren't many of them who are pure nowadays. Highland is possibly one as may be Exmoor, I don't know a whole lot about their background though. I know NF's, Connemara's and a number of the other natives have had TB and other breeds mixed in at some point down the line.

The only breed I have a fair amount of certainty that there is little or no tampering is the Arab.
 
We breed Warmblood horses for Sale for Show jumping, Dressage or Eventing.

We do retain some of the really exceptional stock to improve our own breeding program.

We currently have:
Numero Uno Aldato SJ colt
Verdi x Fetische du pas SJ colt
MFSS Raubritter (Rubin Royal) xHavel x Rubenstein filly for dressage
MFSS Raubritter (Rubin Royal) x Florestan x Flemmingh filly for dressage
Samber Hit x Florestan x Flemmingh filly for dressage
Calvaro Z x Voltaire x Painters Row filly for SJ
We have a few TB mares that have bred exceptional Race horses that have been put in foal to our Warmblood stallions for refinement for Eventing..


We had quite a few people use our stallions on their own mares that had great pedigree, but also some that where just breeding as mentioned in some posts above, just to keep a part of an old competition mare or something along those lines. These didnt necessarily have pedigrees but where unlikely to come up for sale.
 
I decided to breed from Hannah because she is a really nice mare with straight paces and a trainable temperment. But, she has so many hang ups from previous experiences that I wanted to breed a foal and do my very best not to let anything happen to it like had happened to Hannah (she was beaten with a blue pipe to get her into a horsebox
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Plus, although I love her to pieces, she is not a flashy WB (she is IDxTB) but will do very well up to a certain level at dressage. I wanted to breed something that had the potential to go as far as I wanted to go
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And that is how I ended up with Troy
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