What is your bargepole breed?

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Over here the medium is a tough dog,they use the word testone( hard headed) to describe them..they have not deviated far from the original dogs…unlike the giants which are much more trainable( herders and property guard),and the minis which are genetic cousins to the pincher.( ratters).
I am curious as to who has had an medium, and what they thought of them.

My own experience was seven years with my first mini schnauzer,who was one of the best dogs I’ve had.She was a true alpha female.The breeder was at a loss to sell her as a pup as she was so growly and people didnt like her.For me it was an instant bond and she was a healthy dog until her seventh year when she passed with bladder cancer.
My current mini ( 6 yrs old) is an ex show dog,ch titled in France..I’ve had her one year..but has had three large litters and came to me full of oxalate and struvite crystals.I had to have an op to get the last three crystals removed..Apart from that she’s been a wonderful,gentle,affable dog.
I believe the crystals were a result of being crated for too long on a regular basis..she came to me with the habit of holding her urine for as long as twelve hours…this has been resolved since she’s been in a regular routine of outs and walks..healthy ,well trained dog apart from this poor start.
 

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I have a long list too.
Any bull breed
Any giant breed
Anything with a squashed face
Anything similarly deformed or stunted
Anything non-shedding
Anything with droopy or bulging eyes
Any breed that belongs in a polar climate (Huskies, etc)
Any poo or doodle
Any spaniel.

I grew up with spaniels, they're too mad for me. Yes, I own a collie and collies can be mad, but at least they walk nicely on a lead.

My husband is also one who can't stand dogs that have their bumholes on display.
 

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I've been thinking about this further and I was far too mild in my first post. My list of breeds I'm not keen on is much longer.

  • toy breeds as mentioned previously
  • border collies - far too intense and I think I've only met one I'd describe as well-adjusted in a pet home. Fabulous working dogs obviously
  • Malinois - as above
  • German shepherds - far too much hair, also can be intense
  • labradors - lovely, but too generic in their personalities
  • huskies, malamutes, samoyeds etc - too much hair and FAR TOO MUCH NOISE
  • anything mastiff-like - too powerful
  • cane corso or similar - as above
  • akita, shar pei - too prone to be aggressive
  • brachy breeds - heartbreaking and expensive vet bills
  • poodles or poodle crosses - I don't like their coats and they look snappy (even though I'm sure they're lovely)
  • I'd consider sight hounds but they're quite bony and that's not as nice for cuddles
I'm a bit fussier than I thought....
 

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I've been thinking about this further and I was far too mild in my first post. My list of breeds I'm not keen on is much longer.

  • toy breeds as mentioned previously
  • border collies - far too intense and I think I've only met one I'd describe as well-adjusted in a pet home. Fabulous working dogs obviously
  • Malinois - as above
  • German shepherds - far too much hair, also can be intense
  • labradors - lovely, but too generic in their personalities
  • huskies, malamutes, samoyeds etc - too much hair and FAR TOO MUCH NOISE
  • anything mastiff-like - too powerful
  • cane corso or similar - as above
  • akita, shar pei - too prone to be aggressive
  • brachy breeds - heartbreaking and expensive vet bills
  • poodles or poodle crosses - I don't like their coats and they look snappy (even though I'm sure they're lovely)
  • I'd consider sight hounds but they're quite bony and that's not as nice for cuddles
I'm a bit fussier than I thought....
So what do you like, might be easier to list those😁
 

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I've been thinking about this further and I was far too mild in my first post. My list of breeds I'm not keen on is much longer.

  • toy breeds as mentioned previously
  • border collies - far too intense and I think I've only met one I'd describe as well-adjusted in a pet home. Fabulous working dogs obviously
  • Malinois - as above
  • German shepherds - far too much hair, also can be intense
  • labradors - lovely, but too generic in their personalities
  • huskies, malamutes, samoyeds etc - too much hair and FAR TOO MUCH NOISE
  • anything mastiff-like - too powerful
  • cane corso or similar - as above
  • akita, shar pei - too prone to be aggressive
  • brachy breeds - heartbreaking and expensive vet bills
  • poodles or poodle crosses - I don't like their coats and they look snappy (even though I'm sure they're lovely)
  • I'd consider sight hounds but they're quite bony and that's not as nice for cuddles
I'm a bit fussier than I thought....

😮:eek:😮:oops:😮o_O😮:mad:😮 As the Mother of All Labradors... How very dare you! 🤣🤣🤣

I have 3 in my life. If they were all the same, life would be oh, so much simpler.😂
 

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Westies.... every one I've met has crusty eyes and smells bad.

oh and is generally an angry little soul .
Hell hath no fury like a Westie scorned...

Imo Westies are the most Scottosh terrier of all the Scottish terriers, and they are just brilliant. And you know, it really isn't the Westie's fault that everyone else is an idiot.

(But yes, smelly and crusty eyes unless washed regularly and fed appropriately)
 

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So what do you like, might be easier to list those😁
Very fair! I like terriers, setters, spaniels, retrievers, Irish wolfhounds, beagles, dachshunds (although I'd think carefully before getting one due to their spinal issues), Bernese Mountain Dogs (despite the hair), corgis, dalmations, weimeraners to name but a few. And many of the dogs I've liked most over the years have been mixes - I'd happily take a rescue heinz 57. Dog breeds I love but would never own myself would include rough collies, rottweilers and rhodesian ridgebacks off the top of my head.

Despite my long list up there, in reality I like the vast majority of animals I meet - I'm an animal person! I love the wide variety of personalities you get in animals and tend to take them as they come - it doesn't bother me too much if one terrier is more aloof than another, or if one retriever is more ball-obsessed than another. I just enjoy whatever personality they have.

😮:eek:😮:oops:😮o_O😮:mad:😮 As the Mother of All Labradors... How very dare you! 🤣🤣🤣

I have 3 in my life. If they were all the same, life would be oh, so much simpler.😂

Haha I'm very sorry to have offended. I know and have known some brilliant labradors over the years, I've clearly just been too indoctrinated by terriers!
 

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Westies.... every one I've met has crusty eyes and smells bad.

oh and is generally an angry little soul .
I do know what you mean - I meet many a grumpy westie out and about but it doesn't fit with our own experience of the breed. Our first definitely became grumpy with strangers in her old age (but had been the most fabulous dog) but our second was almost bizarrely happy. She genuinely thought everyone on was put on earth to love her and to tickle her tummy and didn't have a cross bone in her body. There's always an exception to the stereotype!
 

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My grandma had a westie when she ran a post office. One day her assistant went into the kitchen at the back of the post office and didn’t come back. When my grandma went to investigate the westie had the poor woman cornered - she had climbed on a chair and her legs were covered in bites. The dog thought it was a great game. He had gone for her whenever she moved.

So it’s a firm no to westies for me. Although the black Scottie dogs are exceedingly cute. Knew one who went to the pub with his owner every day for a pint and to do the crossword in the paper. Most arrogant dog I’ve ever met but he was so damn cool, I could see why.
 

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I think it's very funny when people get upset that others don't like their breeds. I breed Springers (FT lines), and quite frankly they are crap pets for the vast majority of people who either turn them into waddling sofas, make them neurotic tennis ball chasers or just set them free to crash through the local undergrowth disturbing ground nesting birds and ground game in the name of "walkies". Manchesters similarly are fantastic little dogs but definitely not for everyone in terms of temprament and attitude, they are after all working terriers.
 

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Westies.... every one I've met has crusty eyes and smells bad.

oh and is generally an angry little soul .
I'm mortally offended my mum's westie is the most ridiculously happy dog he hadn't seen me for a few months and so he insisted on high 5ing me multiple times on the weekend. Mind you my grandma was waxing lyrical about her old Chow being the best dog ever so we're clearly a mad family with no taste 😂
I wouldn't have a springer, my friend had one that used to pee everywhere whenever he was excited ... Which was always 😆 put me off.
 

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Dogs I WOULD entertain in my house:

- Manchester Terriers (obvs!)
- erm…..ok I’m struggling here 🤣

I can’t imagine having a big hairy dog or one that slobbers or can’t breathe.
Or gets that brown goo on the hair round its eyes or mouth.
Or any of the breeds with pushed in noses.
Or any fat kind of breed.
Anything that can’t run faster than me.
Anything that you can hear breathing.
Anything too big to pick up.
Anything with more skin than it needs.

So yeah….just Manchesters really. Maybe I’m not a dog person after all 🤣🤣
 

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Dogs I WOULD entertain in my house:

- Manchester Terriers (obvs!)
- erm…..ok I’m struggling here 🤣

I can’t imagine having a big hairy dog or one that slobbers or can’t breathe.
Or gets that brown goo on the hair round its eyes or mouth.
Or any of the breeds with pushed in noses.
Or any fat kind of breed.
Anything that can’t run faster than me.
Anything that you can hear breathing.
Anything too big to pick up.
Anything with more skin than it needs.

So yeah….just Manchesters really. Maybe I’m not a dog person after all 🤣🤣

Erm....not Patterdales? 😅🤣
 

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Dogs I WOULD entertain in my house:

- Manchester Terriers (obvs!)
- erm…..ok I’m struggling here 🤣

I can’t imagine having a big hairy dog or one that slobbers or can’t breathe.
Or gets that brown goo on the hair round its eyes or mouth.
Or any of the breeds with pushed in noses.
Or any fat kind of breed.
Anything that can’t run faster than me.
Anything that you can hear breathing.
Anything too big to pick up.
Anything with more skin than it needs.

So yeah….just Manchesters really. Maybe I’m not a dog person after all 🤣🤣

I love that we've single handedly converted you to MTs! 😁

Erm....not Patterdales? 😅🤣
Nah, she's joined the darkside now!! 😉😅
 

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Erm....not Patterdales? 😅🤣

Well I had the most fantastic Patterdale EVER, but she wasn’t very typey. I don’t like the stockier, hairy ones with broad heads that just piss off over the horizon, and that seems to be how they’re breeding them now sadly!

I love that we've single handedly converted you to MTs! 😁

She’s on my knee right now!!
She’s just the most amazing little doggy. SO glad I posted!! Thanks again! 👍🥳
 
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I think it's very funny when people get upset that others don't like their breeds. I breed Springers (FT lines), and quite frankly they are crap pets for the vast majority of people who either turn them into waddling sofas, make them neurotic tennis ball chasers or just set them free to crash through the local undergrowth disturbing ground nesting birds and ground game in the name of "walkies". Manchesters similarly are fantastic little dogs but definitely not for everyone in terms of temprament and attitude, they are after all working terriers.

Indeed, it would be boring if we all liked the same things! I love that there are so many different breeds too. My bargepole list was quite long but that's for what I wouldn't want to own myself. It's great fun to enjoy those breeds through other people. Then I don't have to e.g. train a tricky breed or spend my life grooming a beautiful but long-haired dog!
 

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I'm not soo offended when people don't like the breeds that I own. I don't like all Labs! And honestly, after gaining experience with Cane Corso's and owning one, I prefer the Corso over the Lab. I like Labs because I find them to be easy. They're decent to train and generally friendly by nature. They can be a bit "simple" and do shed a lot though. Mine is also eats her own poop (since she was a pup, nothing "wrong" with her) and is generally up for eating whatever. 🙄

The Cane Corso is not a dog for everyone, nor should they be. I will admit that when I got mine I looked for a set of parents that weren't ridiculously big, saggy/droopy in the face, and that had been temperament tested (plus health stuff). I don't love all Corso's because some are bred to be too beefy or droopy. They're mastiffs, and I didn't originally think I'd be a mastiff person. My Corso is my "heartdog" though.

I interacted with a poodle today and he reminded me that poodles aren't my thing!
 

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Aesthetics and intelligence wise it’s only border collies or working line type GSDs for me. But I think I’ve proven I’m probably not worthy of either of them! I’m sure other breeds would be far more suited to me, I just have no draw towards any of them so I’ll probably be dogless after this one.

Was having the conversation yesterday about what my horses would be if they were dogs and we decided BBP would be a border collie and the Connemara would a GSD, so I think I have a type! (I think the new companion pony would be a working cocker spaniel - if he had a tail he would wag it off)
 

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There’s lots of dogs I admire from a distance in the show ring but could never own - most of the gun dog breeds, poodles, setters etc.

I am partial to a pastoral breed ( and I have two GSD for the record, and these are my favourite! The younger of the two loves strange people and strange dogs and she spends her whole existence wondering why nobody wants to be her friend. The older one is an aloof with strange dogs but will accept pets from strange people out the house but is the first to demand a cuddled with a a stranger inside the house!)

Hard no: brachy breeds, bully breeds, terriers except I admire a nice border or a parsons, huskies/malamutes, akitas, sharpei, chows, mastiff breeds, any poodle cross or designer crossbreed

Most gundogs and hounds just don’t really do it for me, though I did have a a PBGV on my maybe list for a while! And I think greyhounds and whippets are the most overlooked breeds for families in favour of the spaniel brigade!

I love Bernese mountain dogs but they have SO many health problems and they always seem to die young, so for that reason they’re a soft no 🥲
I am also partial to a papillon if it’s treated like a dog and not a toy, as they’re fabulously smart little dogs! Other than that I’m not a huge fan of the toy group!

I think my next dog is likely to be a Pembroke corgi or a Swedish vallhund

As others have said it’s not that there’s anything necessarily wrong with goldens/labs/springers/cockers etc they’re just so popular I find them boring in character!
 

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The affectionate mention of border terriers on this and other HHO threads I have always found interesting, because they are the one terrier breed that I really wouldn't be interested in. They seem nice enough but I'm not a fan of the way they look - a bit too squashed in the snout.

But they do seem to be the terrier breed that appeals to people who don't usually like terriers. In the same way as the Bichon Frise is the toy breed for people who don't usually like toy breeds
 

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There’s lots of dogs I admire from a distance in the show ring but could never own - most of the gun dog breeds, poodles, setters etc.

I am partial to a pastoral breed ( and I have two GSD for the record, and these are my favourite! The younger of the two loves strange people and strange dogs and she spends her whole existence wondering why nobody wants to be her friend. The older one is an aloof with strange dogs but will accept pets from strange people out the house but is the first to demand a cuddled with a a stranger inside the house!)

Hard no: brachy breeds, bully breeds, terriers except I admire a nice border or a parsons, huskies/malamutes, akitas, sharpei, chows, mastiff breeds, any poodle cross or designer crossbreed

Most gundogs and hounds just don’t really do it for me, though I did have a a PBGV on my maybe list for a while! And I think greyhounds and whippets are the most overlooked breeds for families in favour of the spaniel brigade!

I love Bernese mountain dogs but they have SO many health problems and they always seem to die young, so for that reason they’re a soft no 🥲
I am also partial to a papillon if it’s treated like a dog and not a toy, as they’re fabulously smart little dogs! Other than that I’m not a huge fan of the toy group!

I think my next dog is likely to be a Pembroke corgi or a Swedish vallhund

As others have said it’s not that there’s anything necessarily wrong with goldens/labs/springers/cockers etc they’re just so popular I find them boring in character!
I am happy to help with breeders for either when the time comes if this is of help - both breeds are a bit like the mafia, hard to find your way into but once you’re in, you’re in. And I have good links with both. I found it impossible when first looking for a pem, now I could have several a year for my sins!
 

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I am happy to help with breeders for either when the time comes if this is of help - both breeds are a bit like the mafia, hard to find your way into but once you’re in, you’re in. And I have good links with both. I found it impossible when first looking for a pem, now I could have several a year for my sins!
I know a couple of Pembroke people in passing from local open shows but my youngest is only 4.5 so I’ve a good few years of GSD left! Maybe if I went on a waitlist now it would be perfect timing!
 
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