What would you pay for this horse?

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PoppyAnderson

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Young, backed, quality 15hh, sensible, ridden away, potential to be a very good all-rounder sort but undiagnosed intermittent lameness. There will be plenty who wouldn't touch with a barge pole but if you were to take a punt, what would you pay?
 
Afraid I would walk away as it costs as much, if not more, to keep a lame horse as a sound one.

If I really liked her I might get my vet to take a look to see what they thought and if they thought it was sortable then maybe £250
 
Nothing if I was putting it on livery...I probably wouldn't even have it for free to be brutally honest!

Why still undiagnosed?
 
If my vet could find the cause of lameness and it was treatable/manageable and I fell in love with the horse then around £300. The height will put people off and you are buying a lifetime of vet bills
 
Nothing, but if I had my own place I would take on a horse like that and try a barefoot rehab with it, if that hasn’t been done already. It’s essentially worthless as it is, but would be great to give it a chance.
 
Like everyone else I would not pay any more than a token but unlike most I see her height as a good point for several reasons, she may be small but that could mean treating is easier as she will not be struggling with carrying excess weight on her limbs, if she comes sound but is limited in her future work it could be easier to rehome as a light hack plus she is plenty big enough for me to do anything with if she was up to it, by quality I am assuming you mean a blood horse type and not a quality cart horse.
 
Sorry to hijack this....if you were looking to buy a backed youngster ridden away 6 months which recently started to develop splints in the last couple of weeks, would you consider this? Level of work not that high at the moment
 
hollyandivy123 said:
Sorry to hijack this....if you were looking to buy a backed youngster ridden away 6 months which recently started to develop splints in the last couple of weeks, would you consider this? Level of work not that high at the moment
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It would depend on the horse and the splints, many will settle down fairly quickly if given a chance but it is not a good buy if you cannot turn away for up to 12 months if they don't settle, it would make sense for the seller to at least wait a month or two before trying to sell as while they are active not many people would want to take the risk and the value will be very much reduced at this moment in time but could be far higher if they wait.
 
PoppyAnderson said:
Young, backed, quality 15hh, sensible, ridden away, potential to be a very good all-rounder sort but undiagnosed intermittent lameness. There will be plenty who wouldn't touch with a barge pole but if you were to take a punt, what would you pay?
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Everyone trys to sell a horse on 'potential', unless there is incredible breeding don't go along with that line. "undiagnosed intermittent lameness", depending on which leg the lameness is may give a clue what the issue is. The seller probably knows more than they are saying because otherwise they would give treatment & then sell the horse as sound. You've obviously got your heart involved with this horse otherwise you would have walked away. I still feel you should walk away. Taking a punt on this horse will probably work out to be very expensive as no insurance company will touch you with a horse that has an existing problem & you will end up with a very expensive field ornamant. :(
 
Toby_Zaphod said:
Everyone trys to sell a horse on 'potential', unless there is incredible breeding don't go along with that line. "undiagnosed intermittent lameness", depending on which leg the lameness is may give a clue what the issue is. The seller probably knows more than they are saying because otherwise they would give treatment & then sell the horse as sound. You've obviously got your heart involved with this horse otherwise you would have walked away. I still feel you should walk away. Taking a punt on this horse will probably work out to be very expensive as no insurance company will touch you with a horse that has an existing problem & you will end up with a very expensive field ornamant. :(
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I don't insure my horses (apart from public liability) and I don't use vets for diagnostics/x rays/ work ups/ nerve blocks etc.

Heart not involved but I do like it more than anything else I've seen recently.
 
hollyandivy123 said:
Sorry to hijack this....if you were looking to buy a backed youngster ridden away 6 months which recently started to develop splints in the last couple of weeks, would you consider this? Level of work not that high at the moment
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Possibly. I do beggar all with my horses other than shuffle round the block a couple of times a week.
 
Not a penny. We did diagnostics over a 5 year period for intermittent slight lameness -and I now have a retired 7yo with SI, neck and hock issues (and possible wobblers on top). 99% of the time you're talking 1/5 maximum but the horse is a wreck. So unless I had a very, very good idea what the issue was and knew it was something fixable then the proverbial bargepole would be out.
 
PoppyAnderson said:
Young, backed, quality 15hh, sensible, ridden away, potential to be a very good all-rounder sort but undiagnosed intermittent lameness. There will be plenty who wouldn't touch with a barge pole but if you were to take a punt, what would you pay?
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If I liked the horse enough to take the risk, then about £300 or so, assuming that it would still be suitable as a companion if the lameness proved unfixable/incurable.
 
Tell the owner you'll pay £10 more than the other offer she has from a third party. If she want's £2k then just wait until she's advertised for 6 months and got nowhere and your offer of £200 will look good.

Mares (even bog standard) can command £500 for breeding.

If owner hasn't done sensible investigations I'd get your barefoot trimmer / physio or whichever qualified person you use (if it's not a vet) to giver her a once over.
 
PoppyAnderson said:
I don't do conventional treatment. I don't shoe and I certainly don't remedial shoe, I don't do irap or any other 'vet' treatment. I can access bute, should I need it for a short spell.
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How?? You wont use vets but by the sound of it you are happy to access POMs and dish them out yourself. The mind boggles!

This horse is worthless. I paid just over meat money for mine when he wasnt sound but I was 99% certain I could get him right. I did. To me hes priceless. On the open market you can add a zero to what I paid. But it cost me a lot in time and money to get him there and I was aware the whole time it could go horribly wrong.

Unless this horse is to be a companion or you want to drop 1k+ on it as well as about a thousand hours of good quality schooling, then run not just walk away. Mine was reserve champion out showing when he was still lame to my eye, thats how subtle it was! I also knew without a shadow of a doubt that it wasnt foot related.

If you do the odd pootle round the block then you arent going to be able to rehab something barefoot.

I dont understand why you are even looking at this horse? If you want it, take it on and hope it stays field sound, but dont fool yourself that you will take on a lame horse and turn it into some sort of competition superstar by not diagnosing or treating the lameness.
 
I don't want a competition superstar and at no point did I say I wasn't going to treat the lameness. I also know exactly what barefoot rehab entails.
 
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