Who crates their dogs overnight?

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So, in summary; Cayla is Norman Bates, and Alec thinks you're all tools.

It's not the greatest Crategate (it's missing the classic "begone grown woman, go fetch thy Mammy, I shall speak only with her" theme) but as sequels go, it's not too shabby.















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It's a box in our house. "Daxy, inyerbox."

Adopted from our friend who has working spaniels in outside kennels, the dogs have to sit on their boxes before bowls are put down, the 'onyerbox' command always tickled me for some reason. Just the sight of a row of anticipatory spangles quivering on their kennels. :p

It's a mancave here. As in, "where's Loki? Oh, he chillin' in his mancave". :eek:
 

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......., and Alec thinks you're all tools.

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Neither what I said, nor intended. Those who would disrupt reasoned debate, or refuse to consider the views of others, or turn this discussion into a "****gate", well that's a different matter. Those who would derail debate, with puerile comments, do nothing to further our understanding of the others views. ;)

I've listened to those with reasoned arguments, and can see that for them, if not for me, then putting dogs in cages may have some merit. I feel that those dogs which live in a home, with humans, and are shut in cages, when they could be in human company, should learn how to fit in, with us. I do feel that, whilst not for all, but for many, a cage is a convenience, and that's it really.

Some (the barest few!) will agree with me. The majority seem not to. Nobody's right or wrong, we just have freedom of choice.

Alec.
 

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Never a truer word! ;)

Alec. :D

Your reply to another poster, with the quote "tools are tools" attached. Given the winking smiley, it's ambiguous enough for me to take it in at least two contexts, one of which can be used for a joke.

Neither what I said, nor intended. Those who would disrupt reasoned debate, or refuse to consider the views of others, or turn this discussion into a "****gate", well that's a different matter. Those who would derail debate, with puerile comments, do nothing to further our understanding of the others views. ;)

I've listened to those with reasoned arguments, and can see that for them, if not for me, then putting dogs in cages may have some merit. I feel that those dogs which live in a home, with humans, and are shut in cages, when they could be in human company, should learn how to fit in, with us. I do feel that, whilst not for all, but for many, a cage is a convenience, and that's it really.

Some (the barest few!) will agree with me. The majority seem not to. Nobody's right or wrong, we just have freedom of choice.

Alec.

Settle down. The very fact that my post was "puerile" and "derailing" should hint that you need not take it seriously nor feel the need to defend your point of view, or, for that matter, your conduct in the discussion. I already know that you respect others differing opinions- it shines through in your posts.

This is the third or fourth discussion of crates/cages on this forum alone. It is but one of millions on the wider net. Forgive me if I choose to jest rather than reiterate points that are already eloquently made.
 

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Neither what I said, nor intended. Those who would disrupt reasoned debate, or refuse to consider the views of others, or turn this discussion into a "****gate", well that's a different matter. Those who would derail debate, with puerile comments, do nothing to further our understanding of the others views. ;)

I've listened to those with reasoned arguments, and can see that for them, if not for me, then putting dogs in cages may have some merit. I feel that those dogs which live in a home, with humans, and are shut in cages, when they could be in human company, should learn how to fit in, with us. I do feel that, whilst not for all, but for many, a cage is a convenience, and that's it really.

Some (the barest few!) will agree with me. The majority seem not to. Nobody's right or wrong, we just have freedom of choice.

Alec.
You have misunderstood but I dont remember anyone shutting their dogs in cages when they are home and as for a cage being a convenience I fail to understand how you can come to that conclusion. Our pup is only caged at night and when I go out for a couple of hours. I wouldnt leave her loose with my 2 Dobes unattended because if they all decide to play they can get rough and she is only little.

I dont have a problem with you not liking cages after all that is your perogative(sp).
 

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I've gone from not crating in CGI, to partially crating in CGII to full blown convert in CGIII :p
So that's raw feeding and crate training I can blame this forum for :p :p :p
 

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Pix & Dobiegirl,

thanks for your replies. No harm done, I hope.

It's well past my bedtime, so I'm now off to my own kingsized crate. ;)

Night night.

Alec.
 

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Our new pup is choosing to go in her cage/crate/penthouse suite :D. She's in there at night, for about seven hours-ish, and for about two hours in total during the day, part of which is her choice.

If she wasn't in the cage she would have chewed wires and disappeared up a fireplace by now. Add the pack of Shih Tzus and I really wouldn't rate her chances of still being alive in the morning if she wasn't safe in her own spot :(

As she gets older and bigger things will change to keep pace with her then levels of understanding and training :D
 

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Pix & Dobiegirl,

thanks for your replies. No harm done, I hope.

It's well past my bedtime, so I'm now off to my own kingsized crate. ;)

Night night.

Alec.

That's quite OK, you're more than welcome to my reply, and absolutely no harm done. :)

(secretly envious of your kingsized crate. Mine's a mere average double, and as my 40kg GSD occasionally opts to snuggle next to me rather than in his bed/cage when the weather is very cold... well, I could do with an upgrade!)
 

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Wow Crategate is mighty interesting !;) Usually get bored when posts get long as they usually get very insulting but this is quite pleasant . I've never crated a dog but wouldn't rule it out for the future . The trouble with forums like this you hear about when things go tits up . I've never had a dog eat razor blades , lingerie , hosiery , sofas etc and now I shall be paranoid :p. I could have done with a dog eating a sofa or two I've had as they were hideous and then I could have got a new one , but would they oblige ,would they heckers like :D!! I must admit years and years ago I had a friend ( could have been the sister of Ostrich as they seem freakily similar!) who crated a dog of hers . Most of the cavs were kenneled outside but some did live indoors and one young dog was crated and it was the first time I had seen it . The dog was quite happy though and very relaxed about going in , so I got over myself !;) If I do decide to crate a new dog I'll have to get Caylas guide to help . Not so worried about training the dog its training me:confused: I'm worried about as I'm an old fart whos next significant Bday will be the big 50:eek::eek:, though have a couple of years yet !
 

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I haven't read the whole post but I crate my puppy at night - there is no way I would trust her in the house on her own at night, the place would be a bomb site! Plus we have two cats, who would be horrified if she was allowed to be free range at night.

Leave her alone in the kitchen for 5 mins and she has broken into the toilet and trashed the loo roll and cavorted around the kitchen with the hand towel. Taken out all the plastic bags and shredded them etc etc.

Her crate is cosy and she has all her toys in there with her, radio left on. She is with us all day at work and the majority of the evening, so bedtime in the crate is no big deal if you ask me.
 

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I am using a crate/ cage for the first time (on the advice of pup's breeder) and am an instant fan.

Pup trots unto her crate at night perfectly happily and we don't hear a peep from her until morning.

I also have a cage in the kitchen, for occasional use when I'm cooking, or when the kids are eating, or if I go out for a couple of hours. Pup spends quite a lot of time in there with the door open, of her own accord (kitchen is warmest room in the house).

To me, a crate is a very useful tool. It helps our training as we can all keep things calm and because of that, there is lots of opportunity for positive outcomes to praise.

Some people may misuse crates, but that goes for any tools.
 
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