Who is in the wrong? Or both partly to blame?

[ownedbyaconnie]

An update for you all that is so ridiculous I may laugh or cry.

Mabel in season again, coming to the end of bleeding so I think entering the fertile bit. I open our front door last night to put the bin out and shut it behind me, Mabel in the house. Open front door again to go in and feel sormtjing brush past my leg going into the house and think it’s teddy rhe cat. No. It’s the dog from before that is often loose. Blink of an eye and he’s mounting Mabel in our hallway. I try to grab him by the collar, no collar on . I literally grab him by the scruff of his neck and throw him off and out the door. Briefly see the owner but was too frazzled to say anything and fearful Mabel would dart out so went inside.

He was on her for a matter of seconds, what are the chances he actually got anything in her? I’ll phone the vets today but guessing nothing would show up on tests for a while anyway.

who on Earth walks a dog with no collar anyway, let alone an entire dog!!!

 

[Clodagh]

If you could hoick him off you’ll be ok, once they are in they can be impossible to shift as they tie.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Very little, you usually need a tie for successful live insemination.

You were very restrained, even a dog in my garden warrants a WHY THE **** IS THERE A DOG IN MY GARDEN?

 

[Goldenstar]

Do you know where they live ?
Its not acceptable for their dog to enter the house I would call the dog warden and send them a strongly worded letter .
I agree with CC that the chance that something has happened is tiny but I would ring the vet and get the timeline for her having a check if you feel that will make you feel better.
I would bill them way if you know where they live .
what can you say except people are nuts .

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

I would do exactly as GS suggests, not because I think there is much danger of an unwanted pregnancy because you separated them. But because the only way to change the behaviour of such people is to hit them in the pocket. A vet bill might just be enough to do that. Do you live in military accommodation? Does the dog owner? Can you report the behaviour to the landlord?

 

[ownedbyaconnie]

Thanks all, I was pretty sure I wouldn’t have been able to get him off if he was doing the deed and it was literally a couple of seconds at most that he was “in position” so don’t think long enough to do his bit and be ready to come off.

I do know where they live and yes all in military accom. We are normally on friendly ish terms with them, will stop for a chat if we pass each other.

I mostly can’t get over walking him without a collar!

 

[ownedbyaconnie]

Very little, you usually need a tie for successful live insemination.

You were very restrained, even a dog in my garden warrants a WHY THE **** IS THERE A DOG IN MY GARDEN?

To be honest I was in too much shock! It’s one thing to have a dog unexpectedly in your house, let alone mounting your dog and then collarless! It took me a few mins after to fully comprehend what had just happened.

 

[CorvusCorax]

To be honest I was in too much shock! It’s one thing to have a dog unexpectedly in your house, let alone mounting your dog and then collarless! It took me a few mins after to fully comprehend what had just happened.

Oh I hear ya. A lot of the time I think of the witty retort a few hours later after my heart rate has stabilised!!

 

[AmyMay]

Thanks all, I was pretty sure I wouldn’t have been able to get him off if he was doing the deed and it was literally a couple of seconds at most that he was “in position” so don’t think long enough to do his bit and be ready to come off.

I do know where they live and yes all in military accom. We are normally on friendly ish terms with them, will stop for a chat if we pass each other.

I mostly can’t get over walking him without a collar!

I’d be knocking on the door, rather than wait until you’re ‘passing’ each other.

 

[Goldenstar]

The dog will get run over at some point .

 

[conkers]

Thanks all, I was pretty sure I wouldn’t have been able to get him off if he was doing the deed and it was literally a couple of seconds at most that he was “in position” so don’t think long enough to do his bit and be ready to come off.

I do know where they live and yes all in military accom. We are normally on friendly ish terms with them, will stop for a chat if we pass each other.

I mostly can’t get over walking him without a collar!

If you are in military accommodation, can't you have a word with whoever is in charge of the barracks and let them sort it out. I would have thought that the sergeant (or whoever it would be - I'm not really up on ranks) would not be happy to hear that anyone living there was causing a problem. And if their dog is allowed to roam it can't just be yourself that it is causing a problem for.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

I'm not quite sure how it works over there, but if you live in military housing here there is a housing office that one would go to with such an issue. There are stricter rules on dogs in military housing here too, I think, but it may be worth making someone (whoever that may be in your case) aware of the issue.

Are you going to get Maybel spayed? Not that you should have to because of someone else, but it may make things easier all around. I only have bitches, and always spay, mostly due to Pyometra risk, and I am not in the breeding business.

How ridiculous though!

 

[ownedbyaconnie]

I'm not quite sure how it works over there, but if you live in military housing here there is a housing office that one would go to with such an issue. There are stricter rules on dogs in military housing here too, I think, but it may be worth making someone (whoever that may be in your case) aware of the issue.

Are you going to get Maybel spayed? Not that you should have to because of someone else, but it may make things easier all around. I only have bitches, and always spay, mostly due to Pyometra risk, and I am not in the breeding business.

How ridiculous though!

Yes she is getting spayed it’s just been one of those things that gets pushed to the back of my mind.

Will speak to DH about how he wants to deal with this as it adds a layer of awkwardness when your neighbours are also colleagues.

Tbh I’m not sure the dog is bothering anyone else, it’s just our dog he seems to be obsessed with!

 

[Goldenstar]

It’s difficult for you in your situation.
But I would get her spayed asap after her season is over I think it’s six weeks after but I can’t quite remember.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

It’s difficult for you in your situation.
But I would get her spayed asap after her season is over I think it’s six weeks after but I can’t quite remember.

It's 3 months, so that it should be mudway between seasons. I don't think it is OP's responsibility to sort thus out. Her butch was in her own house when the neighbours' dog attacked hers. Neighbours needs a strong warning to keep said dog safely at home.

 

[Rowreach]

I thought she was being spayed last year? I mean, the dog's owner should be keeping it secure, but getting the b1tch spayed would sort this particular problem.

 

[Clodagh]

I think it’s very unfair to say that OP’s bitch should be spayed to stop this.
Next doors 2 collies are in season, they molest Scout as I walk up the road (to be fair Scout is all for it). I’m not having him neutered so they don’t come to our front gate.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Yeah, but if you were considering having your bitch spayed anyway, this might be a bit more push to do so. OP should be free to do as she pleases re the spay, but it was a point worth bringing up. Not to place fault or responsibility on the OP (from me, anyway).


If the OP really and truly does not want to spay, then she doesn't have to. I hope my post didn't come off as that.

 

[Clodagh]

Yeah, but if you were considering having your bitch spayed anyway, this might be a bit more push to do so. OP should be free to do as she pleases re the spay, but it was a point worth bringing up. Not to place fault or responsibility on the OP (from me, anyway).


If the OP really and truly does not want to spay, then she doesn't have to. I hope my post didn't come off as that.

The s.h.i.t. has just hit the fan at the pub where I work as a man has dumped the (married) woman he was having happy times with and gone off with another.
It’s always the women’s fault!

 

[CanteringCarrot]

The s.h.i.t. has just hit the fan at the pub where I work as a man has dumped the (married) woman he was having happy times with and gone off with another.
It’s always the women’s fault!

Always!



Sounds like a soap opera or an episode of reality TV over there!

 

[Goldenstar]

I am not saying OP is responsible for shorting this I thought she posted that she was planning to have her girlie spayed in which getting it done makes sense.
Because it’s difficult to change stupid.
And it’s not really OP’s job to try because once you can’t open the door to your house you are dealing with a special kind of stupid .

 

[HorseyTee]

I thought she was being spayed last year? I mean, the dog's owner should be keeping it secure, but getting the b1tch spayed would sort this particular problem.

How much more secure can you be, having your dog in it's own house?
You don't expect a random male dog to break in for a quickie.
Health wise it's best for Mabel to be spayed but not purely for the reason of making this male dogs owners life easier for them...maybe they need to get his balls off if his hormones are having such a large affect on him.

 

[Goldenstar]

The male dog clearly needs to part company with his balls .
OP is in charge of making her life easier .
I think although clearly it’s not OP‘s responsibility to deal with the other dog owners problem there’s a limit how much she will achieve in the situation she is in .
She is however fully in control with her own decisions and she can prevent unwanted pregnancy by getting her girlie spayed .
Life is not perfect and life in forces housing has it own challenges.

 

[Rowreach]

How much more secure can you be, having your dog in it's own house?
You don't expect a random male dog to break in for a quickie.
Health wise it's best for Mabel to be spayed but not purely for the reason of making this male dogs owners life easier for them...maybe they need to get his balls off if his hormones are having such a large affect on him.

I didn't get round to replying to this yesterday, but I wasn't referring to the particular incident of the dog getting into the house, more the general situation that has been going on for a year (so presumably this is the third season) and that the OP had said her b1tch was being spayed months ago. Clearly the dog's owners are idiots but maybe, since the spaying was planned anyway, it would make the OP's life easier for her?

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

This is a tricky, but as the owner of 2 entire dogs, it’s my responsibility to keep them inside my own house and not let them wander. I’d be appalled if an in season bitch was loose in the woods, but I think that’s happened once in 20 years and was extremely irresponsible, imo. In the OP’s position, I’d be having serious words about the security of the neighbour’s dog because they’ve been very lax.

 

[HorseyTee]

I didn't get round to replying to this yesterday, but I wasn't referring to the particular incident of the dog getting into the house, more the general situation that has been going on for a year (so presumably this is the third season) and that the OP had said her b1tch was being spayed months ago. Clearly the dog's owners are idiots but maybe, since the spaying was planned anyway, it would make the OP's life easier for her?

Oh OK I see what you mean now.
It absolutely would make it easier, at least removing the stress of an unplanned pregnancy.
Clearly won't make a difference to this idiot letting their dog roam constantly though, poor thing.
I can't say I've had any males who have been that hormonally driven though, luckily.

 

[maisie06]

Mabel is at the back end of her season. She’s going out for a walk on the lead at quiet times of the day round our block.

A few doors down is an entire dog who escapes multiple times a week. I use the term escape loosely, yesterday he was scrabbling at our front door and when I took him back to his house the front door was wide open and owners no where to be seen.

Twice this week he has “escaped” and tried to mount Mabel whilst she is on the lead on a walk. Today the dog very nearly succeeded except DH pushed him off and picked Mabel up.

So do I send them a message/mention next time I bump into them? This isn’t our fault is it? Mabel can’t go 3 weeks without a walk and she’s on the lead so can’t go running off.

I appreciate we both have entire dogs but Mabel has never escaped our house and we keep her on a lead when in season. She has pants but we take them off for the walk so she can go to the toilet. What else can I do?!

They are in the wrong. Your dog is on the lead under control, theirs is running loose . END OF. It makes no difference an entire dog should not be allowed to roam loose band should have good manners and enough training not to go off bitching, and should not be allowed to escape.

 

[GSD Woman]

The s.h.i.t. has just hit the fan at the pub where I work as a man has dumped the (married) woman he was having happy times with and gone off with another.
It’s always the women’s fault!

In the South (USA) we have a saying, "Some people just need k1ll1n'." <- obviously this is sort of tongue in check. Some people do take it to heart though.

 

[AmyMay]

The male dog clearly needs to part company with his balls .
OP is in charge of making her life easier .
I think although clearly it’s not OP‘s responsibility to deal with the other dog owners problem there’s a limit how much she will achieve in the situation she is in .
She is however fully in control with her own decisions and she can prevent unwanted pregnancy by getting her girlie spayed .
Life is not perfect and life in forces housing has it own challenges.

Or the dogs owner simply needs to keep it under control.

By not opening her front door?

 

[ownedbyaconnie]

Or the dogs owner simply needs to keep it under control.

By not opening her front door?

With a newborn and the near constant wind and rain some days this very nearly happens