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FFS, if you're going to accuse people then do so directly and preferably in private, don't go on open forum and say "certain people" etc and accuse pretty much anyone who may have been involved in threads. Grow some bollocks.

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Have I been rude to anyone on here? I do find what you said particularly offensive.

And again a case of anyone who speaks up about what has been going on getting shouted at and slammed for it. Maybe we should all agree with you? Would that please you??
I am quite angry, not to mention suprised, at your response there.
maybe I should shut up and keep quiet like a good little girl??

My referall was aimed at GROUP of people, who know full b***** well who they are. And looking in the bigger picture, i am not at all referring to THAT thread, it is the series of threads as a whole.

If *having balls* means naming and shaming on an open forum, then no I have none. But then I am a female who has given birth three times so i would hope that when I look next time I havent actually grown any. I would just hope that those involved would have the maturity to admit what they have done and say sorry instead of keeping as far away as possible.
 
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My referall was aimed at GROUP of people, who know full b***** well who they are. And looking in the bigger picture, i am not at all referring to THAT thread, it is the series of threads as a whole.

I would just hope that those involved would have the maturity to admit what they have done and say sorry instead of keeping as far away as possible.

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See, you have said it again - you are accusing people of wrong doing and bullying! You cannot do that and not name names, that is how the horrible gossip mills start working, it is vindictive and venemous IMHO. How do you know that these people know they are being what you are accusing them of being? I do not subscribe to this "group", "clique", "whatever" train of thought, as far as I see it everyone on here speaks to everyone else.

I think it is time to let this lie now.
 
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And again a case of anyone who speaks up about what has been going on getting shouted at and slammed for it.

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The people who spoke up with concern about FMN's situation are getting slammed for it by you.
Or if you are not referring to that group [are you sure they know who they are?] then you are slamming some other group.

So you are doing exactly what you are condemning, except you are refusing to say who you even mean, which is worse
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Sorry I do not understand that either
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If you are referring to me saying you cannot make statements about *bullying groups* and then not name them, then I stand by that, bullying is a VERY serious matter.
 
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You called someone who has feed her self to the.... and said what she thinks, the thruth and you say she has no balls? Agreeing or not saying anything at all is bollocks less.

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You called someone who has fed herself to the ....(lions perhaps?), and said what she thinks, and stated the truth, and yet you say she has no balls? IMO agreeing or just saying nothing is worse.
 
Well said Weezy.
As for the "bullying" thing. If someone posts a picture and everybody praises the horse/rider then there is never any accusation of "ganging up" or jumping on the bandwagon. Yet if several people voice concerns or give similar criticism then they are accused of bullying etc.
The fact is that this forum has many members who are very experienced and so will often see the same good and bad points. I agree that some people can be overly critical and often people give opnions without knowing the history etc (though if you only post a few pictures then you cannot expect everyone to know the background) but several people seem to be unable to accept any slightly negative comments.
I think problems often occur when younger forum members post pictures asking for advice/comments (but really just want people to admire their horse/riding) and then get offended when they don't hear what they want to.
 
bullying is a serious matter. Let this lie and allow admin to deal with the culprits. What would naming and shaming achieve? Would it alleviate your worries to hear you're not being accused? perhaps that is all you're worried about?
As i said, allow admin to deal with this in their own way.
 
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bullying is a serious matter. Let this lie and allow admin to deal with the culprits. What would naming and shaming achieve? Would it alleviate your worries to hear you're not being accused? perhaps that is all you're worried about?
As i said, allow admin to deal with this in their own way.

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God no, I am not worried as I know I have never bullied anyone in my life! I just think posts accusing people starts the gossip wheel in motion which, IMHO is never a good or fair thing.
 
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You called someone who has feed her self to the.... and said what she thinks, the thruth and you say she has no balls? Agreeing or not saying anything at all is bollocks less.

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You called someone who has fed herself to the ....(lions perhaps?), and said what she thinks, and stated the truth, and yet you say she has no balls? IMO agreeing or just saying nothing is worse.

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Thanks for the translation
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Still do not get it as I never said you (Katy) didnt have any balls! I was simply saying what had been said would lead to speculation and the gossip mill, thats all.
 
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Well said Weezy.
As for the "bullying" thing. If someone posts a picture and everybody praises the horse/rider then there is never any accusation of "ganging up" or jumping on the bandwagon. Yet if several people voice concerns or give similar criticism then they are accused of bullying etc.
The fact is that this forum has many members who are very experienced and so will often see the same good and bad points. I agree that some people can be overly critical and often people give opnions without knowing the history etc (though if you only post a few pictures then you cannot expect everyone to know the background) but several people seem to be unable to accept any slightly negative comments.
I think problems often occur when younger forum members post pictures asking for advice/comments (but really just want people to admire their horse/riding) and then get offended when they don't hear what they want to.

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With all due respect (and I do understand and agree with what what you are saying), this isnt re just the one thread. there are a series of threads, where bitchy backhanded comments have been made which could clearly be defined as singling out a single HHO member (FMN) and picking on her.

It's always the same people who jump and defend themselves on this kind of thing, even if it has nothing to do with them. That's what suprises me. I do not 'have it in for' anyone on this forum, I think everyone's cool, but people don't half go into defensive mode at the drop of a hat. Those involved (and there are only 3) know who they are 100%, so why on earth have we 101 other members trying to defend themselves?
Bullying HAS gone on, if you did it you know who you are. If you didnt then kindly piddle off and chill out.
 
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Sorry I do not understand that either
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If you are referring to me saying you cannot make statements about *bullying groups* and then not name them, then I stand by that, bullying is a VERY serious matter.

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Bullying is a sign of insecurity and low self esteem i.e folk gang together to ridicule someone else to make themselves feel better. I think that is very sad.
 
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bullying is a serious matter. Let this lie and allow admin to deal with the culprits. What would naming and shaming achieve? Would it alleviate your worries to hear you're not being accused? perhaps that is all you're worried about?
As i said, allow admin to deal with this in their own way.

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God no, I am not worried as I know I have never bullied anyone in my life! I just think posts accusing people starts the gossip wheel in motion which, IMHO is never a good or fair thing.

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It was not my intention to start a big goss-fest, just to point out that this girl HAS been picked on and that perhaps needs to be supported not criticised for her reactions? She must be feeling a tad vunerable on here ATM.
 
Oh dear. Sometimes this place is totally beyond a blooming joke. I'm sorry but this is melodramatic garbage.

Sorry Katy, I like you, but I just cannot believe you are spouting this rubbish. BOTH parties have made mean comments to each other, at least they have on this forum...what goes on elsewhere, well that isn't anything to do with us really.

I honestly couldn't care who you are accusing of these crimes you have decided some people have commited....but you know you could actually be right; maybe some of us should all "piddle off" hence allowing this site to develop into what it appears it is developing into ........... yet another fluffy pink ponies site
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Oh and by the way everyone; accusing someone of bullying is also a serious matter and in some ways is not too far removed from actually bullying the people they accuse!
 
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She must be feeling a tad vunerable on here

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Oh so you are now giving advice and feeling concern for her? Well I thought she looked a tad blooming vulnerable on her horse which is why I gave advice and felt concern.

Sorry but this is shocking double standards I'm afraid.
 
With all due respect I know this isn't about just one thread, although it does seem to have been prompted by a couple of threads. My comments were general and not directed at any particular thread.
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It's always the same people who jump and defend themselves on this kind of thing, even if it has nothing to do with them

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Bullying HAS gone on, if you did it you know who you are. If you didnt then kindly piddle off and chill out.

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Well that told me then, and I thought this was an open forum
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She must be feeling a tad vunerable on here

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Oh so you are now giving advice and feeling concern for her? Well I thought she looked a tad blooming vulnerable on her horse which is why I gave advice and felt concern.

Sorry but this is shocking double standards I'm afraid.

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I actually thought the advice you gave was very good. What i objected to on that particular thread was the page of similar replies which followed.

I don't see why what I have said about the member perhaps feeling vunerable is double standards? Am i stupid or something? because I simply feel a concern for the way in which she has been treated on this forum. i have seen no evidence of this user picking on other users.

As you know, I speak my mind, and I don't do something just to fall into line with the others. i say what i see, and if others don't like it, it's their problem not mine. This is an internet forum, we're all welcome to our opinions, or are we? It seems those who say something a bit 'different' or speak their mind are 'outed'. That is what i call playground behaviour.
 
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With all due respect I know this isn't about just one thread, although it does seem to have been prompted by a couple of threads. My comments were general and not directed at any particular thread.
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It's always the same people who jump and defend themselves on this kind of thing, even if it has nothing to do with them

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Bullying HAS gone on, if you did it you know who you are. If you didnt then kindly piddle off and chill out.

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Well that told me then, and I thought this was an open forum
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well, I was told to leave. Yes, it's an open forum, but it seems we're not allowed to express our views and concerns if it has the possibility of making a few people think about their behaviour.
My telling people to piddle off was aimed at those who keep bleating on about "who" "what" "where".
 
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Agreed Tia
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Oh definitely
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You've obviously just performed the a$$lick manouvre, shame on you Weezy
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and then people wonder why hho has a rep forbeing bitchy?
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Didn't mean to offend you honey, not at all.
Very sorry if it did.

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s'okay, just feeling sensitive, and wound up by other posts then I replied to yours too quick.

Don't worry about it!!
 
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