Woman attacked by dogs and killed in Liverpool

[splashgirl45]

Personally I don’t like any of the bull breeds, the look of them doesn’t appeal to me, but I don’t agree with banning them or insisting they are muzzled when out walking. So many of these fatal attacks have been in the home and it’s been the owners or relatives who have been injured. we need to crack down on all breeding of dogs of all types, too many people have been breeding dogs with no thoughts about physical problems or bad temperaments and they are making loads of money to the detriment of the dogs. I think ALL breeders who advertise on the pet sites should be registered and it should be law that they are.

 

[Moobli]

This thread minded me of a case in France where a pregnant woman was killed by dog(s). It was initially unclear whether it was the local hunting hounds that were hunting in the forest at the time, or her boyfriend’s “American Staffordshire Terrier”. It sparked fierce arguments between pro and anti hunting.
DNA was taken from 67 dogs and it was established it had in fact been the Staffordshire terrier who had bitten and killed the woman.

 

[Clodagh]

And the type of dog that **does** naturally spark up at anyone and everything, and/or when it is not appropriate, isn't conducive to family/normal pet dog life.

As for training, I don't think there's much 'training' involved, to be honest.

Training I agree. I doubt even a decent walk is in many of these owners repertoires. (Not meaning bite training particularly but just how to function in society as a dog type training).
Harley, my Oz dog, was not an easy dog and would not have coped in normal family life. He was awesome and we loved him but he was very high maintenance. He guarded anything if it sat still for a minute.

 

[Tiddlypom]

I'm a bit off the pace here and getting muddled with other incidents referred to on here of people killed by dogs.

Is it confirmed that the 5 Liverpool killer dogs referred to in the thread title belonged to a relative of the woman who was killed by them?

 

[Clodagh]

This thread minded me of a case in France where a pregnant woman was killed by dog(s). It was initially unclear whether it was the local hunting hounds that were hunting in the forest at the time, or her boyfriend’s “American Staffordshire Terrier”. It sparked fierce arguments between pro and anti hunting.
DNA was taken from 67 dogs and it was established it had in fact been the Staffordshire terrier who had bitten and killed the woman.

It didn’t look like an English staffie though, or not the ones you used to see about. That had attacked before as well, but it was their baby. ?

 

[Moobli]

I'm a bit off the pace here and getting muddled with other incidents referred to on here of people killed by dogs.

Is it confirmed that the 5 Liverpool killer dogs referred to in the thread title belonged to a relative of the woman who was killed by them?

I believe she and her son were breeding them so yes they belonged to the woman killed.

 

[Moobli]

It didn’t look like an English staffie though, or not the ones you used to see about. That had attacked before as well, but it was their baby. ?

No it was a big powerful looking dog, not what I would think of as a Staffie at all.

 

[marmalade76]

Tbh anyone who describes any dog as a baby is a worry to me. Especially when it’s one like an American Bully.

Agreed, a dog is a dog and should be treated like one but if you are going to baby them, pick something small & cuddly.

 

[CorvusCorax]

(Not meaning bite training particularly but just how to function in society as a dog type training).

Same

 

[skinnydipper]

What a thread. We seem to have gone from

Ban all big or powerful breeds

Muzzle every dog

to

Nah, its fine

Select a breed because it looks intimidating

Allow a dog to bite using its own discretion, but not too hard.

Have at it, Fido


Posting these links for info, but to be honest I would be more worried about what would happen to my dog if she bit someone.

https://www.rspca.org.uk/getinvolved/campaign/bsl/dda

https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public#:~:text=If you let your dog,unlimited fine (or both).

 

[splashgirl45]

What a thread. We seem to have gone from

Ban all big or powerful breeds

Muzzle every dog

to

Nah, its fine

Select a breed because it looks intimidating

Allow a dog to bite using its own discretion, but not too hard.

Have at it, Fido


Posting these links for info, but to be honest I would be more worried about what would happen to my dog if she bit someone.

https://www.rspca.org.uk/getinvolved/campaign/bsl/dda

https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public#:~:text=If you let your dog,unlimited fine (or both).

Thanks for the links, that one by the RSPCA was sensible . What worries me about the gov one is the someone could report my dog if they feel worried it might bite That is scarey . I do put my lurcher pup on the lead if I see people approaching as he will jump up quite high and it could scare someone if they aren’t dog savvy but it drives me mad that I have my puppy on the lead and they come over and speak to him and try to stroke him even though I tell them not to.. It’s very difficult to deal with that and if they then said they were worried he could bite them it could be bad for my lovely friendly boy..through no fault of him or me…I don’t stroke other peoples dogs but even if I did if someone asked me not to touch it , I would obey not just carry on regardless

 

[skinnydipper]

Thanks for the links, that one by the RSPCA was sensible . What worries me about the gov one is the someone could report my dog if they feel worried it might bite That is scarey . I do put my lurcher pup on the lead if I see people approaching as he will jump up quite high and it could scare someone if they aren’t dog savvy but it drives me mad that I have my puppy on the lead and they come over and speak to him and try to stroke him even though I tell them not to.. It’s very difficult to deal with that and if they then said they were worried he could bite them it could be bad for my lovely friendly boy..through no fault of him or me…I don’t stroke other peoples dogs but even if I did if someone asked me not to touch it , I would obey not just carry on regardless

The problem is that some people seem to think they know better than the owner and then there's the "all dogs like me" brigade. I know how difficult it was keeping the idiots at bay when I had my last dog. You can only do your best, sg.