EquestrianFairy
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5yo event horse, £15k with a sarcoid on belly and sheath.
What would you offer?
What would you offer?
I would never never buy another horse with a sarcoid, as you never know how many they’ll end up with, or where! Having had several lasered off a young mare, and most recently spending thousands on electro-chemotherapy for small sarcoids near eye and mouth (not a location you can laser, and couldn’t leave them if I wanted to keep riding the horse) I am of the view that its a massive gamble and you have to be able to afford to lose your money on the horse. It’s also a constant worry that another ones going to pop up if the horse gets stressed/run down etc. I hate the things with a passion now!
It is an exceptional horse but obviously failed the vetting on them.
I’m torn between firstly buying him with a sarcoid and secondly, what offer to make now he has failed the vetting on them.
Yes I would and it would completely depend on how competitively priced the horse in front of me was to start with and what type and where the sarcoids were.
Last one I bought with sarcoid had 2 nodular and I negotiated £1250 off an already cheap unproven horse.
A couple of years ago I was involved in helping buy a young horse for a syndicate. 25k for a 5yo. We didn’t buy it in xrays but it also had a sarcoid and had the xrays been clean we wouldn’t have expected to get anything off but might have tried our luck at 2k
The one before that was a proven competition horse and had a flat one in inner thigh. I didn’t even try to get money off because it had been dormant the 2 years I had known the horse.
I think when they are young, unproven and expensive that is where the uncertainty comes in. If the horse proves itself then very few experienced people care. If however the horse is a bit duff and you need to sell as an amateurs all rounder then you loose a hell of a lot of £.
He's presumably unproven as an eventer at five because he can't event properly until five and the season is still very new. . If he was successful at young horse classes I wouldn't buy him anyway for fear of how much he did too young to get him to a winning position in those events.
Since you stand to lose a lot anyway if he is unsuccessful, and presumably won't sell if he is successful, then that would make me more likely to buy him.
He did the Young classes yes, badminton and burley (sp?!)
He did the Young classes yes, badminton and burley (sp?!)
I should add.. it’s not a purchase for myself.. a friend is looking for some opinions.
If I had £15k to spend, it wouldn’t be on a horse right now, it would be on a holiday to help me get over loosing my £6k I spent on a broken one 😂.
I did - I bought a proven 5yo for a little bit more than that about a month ago and factored the price of treating his sarcoids into the purchase price.
He had them lasered (big one on his belly and a few around his sheath area) last week. It cost me about £600, which included the cost of hiring the machine.
Say she loved this horse and wants to put an offer in-
What type of offer would be suitable given it has two sarcoids now?
Say she loved this horse and wants to put an offer in-
What type of offer would be suitable given it has two sarcoids now?
I should add.. it’s not a purchase for myself.. a friend is looking for some opinions and I was replying on her behalf.
She was due to view it but it was sold before she had chance, it failed the vetting on sarcoids (apparently it had passed flexions etc) so the seller rang her and offered her to come view again.
It is an exceptional, talented, proven horse who has competed at the age classes.
If I had £15k to spend, it wouldn’t be on a horse right now, it would be on a holiday to help me get over loosing my £6k I spent on a broken one 😂.
I would want to be certain it had only 'failed' because of the sarcoids, I find it rather hard to imagine a scenario where an experienced owner and a buyer, spending that money so presumably also fairly experienced, both failed to see two sarcoids, the one on the sheath should have been easily spotted by anyone, I would go in with my eyes open and definitely vet it again if a purchase went ahead.
I would want to love it and not be too taken in by the young horse performances, has it been out yet this season to prove it has trained on?
I think she firstly has to ask the sellers if they’re open to offers.
But I guess it’s priced to sell, so she could try a cheeky offer of £12, but be prepared to pay £14.5
You've been a little bit cryptic there BP, maybe. Are you talking about the kind of situation where the vet has a gut feeling that the horse is a wrong'un in some way, and can't hand on heart fail the horse technically on the day, so is making a big thing out of the sarcoids?
So you would want a second vetting by a different vet?
The vet doesn't always communicate fully with the seller so they may only have part of the story, the most obvious part that is there to be seen, I would either want to see the certificate which is down to the previous buyer to release or another vetting for a horse of this value I certainly wouldn't buy it without one or the other and if it is to be insured it will need a new one anyway.