Would you employ this person to work on your yard??

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BBH said:
Its not snotty but unfortunately if someone doesn't take the trouble to get someone to proof read their add it makes you wonder if they're sloppy in the job.

Yes, learning difficulties or Dyslexia would also put me off employing them as busy yards with onerous health and safety requirements are hazadous places and anyone needing extra support I wouldn't have the time to devote to them.

If however I had a couple of horses privately then yes that would be fine.
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As the mother of a wonderful young man with learning difficulties, your stance on equal opportunity employment saddens me greatly :(

My son has a 15% chance of being in full time employment when he comes of age - yet his is very intelligent and willing to work :(.

Albert Einstein, Agatha Christie, Cher, Alexander Bell, Danny Glover, Hans Christian Anderson, Henry Winkler, Jackie Stewart OBE, Leonardo Da Vinci, Thomas Edison, Tom Cruise, Walt Disney, Whoopi Goldberg, Winston Churchill, Richard Branson, Orlando Bloom, Stephen J Cannell......

....and countless other successful people all suffer/suffered with dyslexia (and some had autism too) ;)
 
I can't quote as using my phone but to the person on who quoted me before. I agree I wasnt impressed to the ad.
What I was getting at was the people who said they wouldn't employ a dyslexic person that's was got my back up!!!
 
Oberon said:
As the mother of a wonderful young man with learning difficulties, your stance on equal opportunity employment saddens me greatly :(

My son has a 15% chance of being in full time employment when he comes of age - yet his is very intelligent and willing to work :(.

Albert Einstein, Agatha Christie, Cher, Alexander Bell, Danny Glover, Hans Christian Anderson, Henry Winkler, Jackie Stewart OBE, Leonardo Da Vinci, Thomas Edison, Tom Cruise, Walt Disney, Whoopi Goldberg, Winston Churchill, Richard Branson, Orlando Bloom, Stephen J Cannell......

....and countless other successful people all suffer/suffered with dyslexia (and some had autism too) ;)
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Well said.
 
Hypothetically, if I was in the position to hire someone for said job, then yes. Absolutely.
They might not be the sharpest tool in the box, or have had much time to write that advertisement, but that in NO way reflects their ability to work. If it was a job that involved lots of writing and written communication then I'd be a little wary, but it's not, it's mainly manual.
 
I would probably speak to them before making a decision. They may be offering there services for free in order to gain experience and a reference to secure paid employment in the future?! It may be a college student looking for a placement on a yard which i dont thinm are allowed to be paid placements unless it is an apprenticeship. i know when i did a BTEC ND in horsr management we had to secure an unpaid placement for 1 day per week although we could do extra hours/days which were paid. I do agree it could of been better written regardless of the persons circumstances though
 
Oberon said:
As the mother of a wonderful young man with learning difficulties, your stance on equal opportunity employment saddens me greatly :(

My son has a 15% chance of being in full time employment when he comes of age - yet his is very intelligent and willing to work :(.

Albert Einstein, Agatha Christie, Cher, Alexander Bell, Danny Glover, Hans Christian Anderson, Henry Winkler, Jackie Stewart OBE, Leonardo Da Vinci, Thomas Edison, Tom Cruise, Walt Disney, Whoopi Goldberg, Winston Churchill, Richard Branson, Orlando Bloom, Stephen J Cannell......

....and countless other successful people all suffer/suffered with dyslexia (and some had autism too) ;)
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Well put Oberon, I have a dyslexic husband, and a son who has dyslexia and aspbergers. They are both very clever, and talented. It saddens me also that some people here have taken the view that they are not worth the trouble!:(
 
CobsGalore said:
Using their ad in what way? :confused:

I am considering contacting this person and wanted others opinions, just as anyone on here does for adverts for horses. I don't see the problem.
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Call me cynical/pessimistic or whatever but your OP didn't sound like this was the case at all. I wonder if you expected people to balk at this advert but they haven't..... just my opinion.
 
I can understand some peoples opinions on here, using a version of text speak and abbreviations to advertise your services doesn't seem professional.... But... she is offering her help for free and may be a lovely person who just loves horses?!

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Billie1007 said:
Call me cynical/pessimistic or whatever but your OP didn't sound like this was the case at all. I wonder if you expected people to balk at this advert but they haven't..... just my opinion.
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I'm sorry this is how you feel. I was just looking for people's opinions.

I have actually contacted this person in reference to their ad.
 
BBH said:
Read your post and compare it to the add.

There is nothing to indicate you are dyslexic at all because you took the care to spell check or get a proof reader.

Like it or not that add is the window to the person's future desire to work on a yard and yet no care has been taken to portray a good impression.

It could be construed as laziness.
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My thoughts exactly!
 
Sorry op but have to agree with Billie1007 - I was under the impression you posted the advert to ridicule rather than employ.....

Whichever, I bet you regret writing the thread now!
 
I'm surprised with people saying they'd give her an interview, based on the fact people who have spent hours filling out application forms don't get one (me?bitter? never!) The truth of the matter is this advert would most likely be ignored, whether or not that is a shame is debatable.

I have seen adverts very similar to this in my area on preloved and facebook groups, though.
 
BBH said:
Its not snotty but unfortunately if someone doesn't take the trouble to get someone to proof read their add it makes you wonder if they're sloppy in the job.

Yes, learning difficulties or Dyslexia would also put me off employing them as busy yards with onerous health and safety requirements are hazadous places and anyone needing extra support I wouldn't have the time to devote to them.

If however I had a couple of horses privately then yes that would be fine.
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Dyslexia didn't stop my son serving in Iraq which I assure you was a hazardous place to be. Perhaps you better find out a bit more about it before making such sweeping and offensive comments.
 
For all those who say I am wrong to not want to employ someone with learning difficulties or dyslexic on a big busy livery yard forget the sentiment and consider the practicalities.

I am not saying such a person is unemployable I'm saying that I think a potentially dangerous place with many large unpredictable horses and demanding clients is not the best choice and with litigation the way it is its not a risk I'd be willing to take.

However we know nothing about the person who wrote the advert and its strange everyone is assuming she is dyslexic or learning difficulties rather than just using prescriptive text badly to send her add. I can't imagine Preloved spend too much time on the quality of ads placed.

But on the positive side you should be heartened that so many are willing to consider and give everyone a chance.
 
magicgirl said:
Dyslexia didn't stop my son serving in Iraq which I assure you was a hazardous place to be. Perhaps you better find out a bit more about it before making such sweeping and offensive comments.
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So every person who has a family member is now gonna come out the woodwork and have a go are they.

Perhaps the issue is too close to have a rational debate.
 
BBH said:
So every person who has a family member is now gonna come out the woodwork and have a go are they.

Perhaps the issue is too close to have a rational debate.
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Wow.

Or perhaps your attitude to people with learning difficulties is outdated and wrong?

Your yard must be very hazardous indeed.

Sounds lovely :rolleyes:
 
Please don't be too harsh on the advertiser.
If you read her other Preloved adverts it seems she just wants to get back into the world of horses. With a young family she cannot commit to full employment and is being honest about that.

I can remember a time when stable work was not considered to be an academic career.

I would certainly interview her.
 
Oberon said:
Wow.

Or perhaps your attitude to people with learning difficulties is outdated and wrong?

Your yard must be very hazardous indeed.

Sounds lovely :rolleyes:
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My thoughts exactly! Can't imagine it being more hazardous than a war zone, but given the attitude towards learning difficulties it's probably less pleasant!;)
 
I have a friend in her 40s who does not have learning difficulties and, as far as I know, is not dyslexic. However, she managed to leave school at 16 without being able to read or write. Once she was in the real world, she began to realise what a disadvantage this was and set out to teach herself. This ad could have been written by her, judging by some of the texts I receive, as the standard of her written English is poor to say the least. However, I would trust her with my horse and quite probably my life! Words are my work and I am pedantic about spelling and grammar but I would not be judging this person by my own standards but by how they were fitted to the job they want to do. OP, I'm glad you are giving her a chance and I hope it works out.
 
The ad is asking to volunteer on a yard, not proof read science journals, so I couldn't give a flying **** if its someone who is dyslexic & too lazy to use spell check etc. Doesn't mean they'd be manually lazy. They are offering to work for free, & tbh I wouldn't expect someone working for free, possibly to gain experience or just to be involved, to take on the responsibility of reading vets instructions etc anyway. If its a groom you need, you should be paying a wage.
As to dyslexia & some learning difficulties making yard work dangerous, rubbish. As a child/teen our ym was dyslexic, he'd be in his 50's now so educated when it was called being a thicko or dunce. His reading & writing level was that of a 6yr old. Didn't stop him being a great horseman though. Had a memory that was amazing to compensate, & very quick thinking & intelligent. Someone I'm grateful to have learnt from, & who anyone would be proud to employ.
 
I would ask to meet her - good on her for trying :) having MH problems myself (NOT saying this lady has btw !), it is sometimes sooo hard to put yourself out there.
 
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The existence of this thread proves that the woman who wrote the ad didn't do herself any favours by not getting it proof read. punctuation clearly does matter to a chunk of us as theoretical employers and practically all dyslexics can either master the full stop or get someone to check job applications. I don't think it does anyone any favours to pretend things like this don't matter, lest of all other special needs people.

Personally I wouldn't give me a job with horses unless I really liked me. My complete, enduring inability to tie a quick release knot can be circumnavigated, but why should a busy YO bother, when they could just hire some one who can tie the infernal things?

Now for something everyone can agree about. 'Dyslexia,' did they really have to saddle loads of kids who cant spell with such a difficult beast of a name to spell?
 
Maybe its all a ploy and OP is the advertiser and thought of a really smart way of getting her ad out there to a wider audience.

(Probably not but would be clever if it were :rolleyes:)
 
I wouldn't like to say if the person was dyslexic or not. To be honest it could have been written by several of my friends on facebook and none of them are dyslexic, they just all use text speak and can't be bothered to spell check etc. I don't have any friends in that area in case anyone thinks I'm linked to the ad though!

Bottom line though, she isn't asking for paid employment, she's offering help for nothing, not even rides! Cut her some slack and give her a chance. At least she isn't sat at home watching Mr Kyle and complaining about her lack of benefit money!

I really hope she finds someone who will give her a chance.
 
Its true, volunteering is different to paid employment, but in a way that makes appearance more important. Lots of people on here have complained about unreliable sharers. I hope some one gives her a chance, but people would be more likely to if she had just put in three full stops. its not rocket science.
 
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