would you let a pregnant friend ride your horse?

Spring Feather said:
Right back at you, she was obviously referring to her earlier comment "Women in Saudi Arabia aren't allowed to make choices regarding their own bodies and lives either."
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'Right back at you'? Really? Is this where we're at?
As the part you are referring to is a separate paragraph, and the 'do it' is in the line previous, I'd be more inclined to think the former. I'm sorry but your point and 'do it' just don't fit...
How would the phrase 'Here the women with moral indignation do it' fit with your quote above? Do what in that case?

SF, I respect you as a poster on here. This isn't a game of oneupmanship.
 
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Patterdale said:
So saying that you don't agree with drinking in pregnancy as it has been proven to be harmful to the baby is comparable to female oppression in Saudi Arabia...?

And saying that, whilst you don't have a problem with pregnant women riding, but that you just wouldn't want them riding your horse, is being anti pregnant women doing any activity?

:rolleyes3:

*suddenly remembers why I don't spend much time here anymore*
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I don't quite get it either..
 
Spring Feather said:
Blooming good job I'm not English then!
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:) feel free to concede, it's clear that MSR meant that the women were oppressed by women through moral indignation. That's clearly her opinion, it's just a nonsensical one.

Moomin1, I should offer you an apology - I've been just as tiresome on this thread! It seems you can't teach an old dog new tricks after all.

Goodnight all x
 
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I thought people were familiar with the concept of social oppression but apparently not. It's also difficult to debate with concrete thinkers.

Rather than bang my head against and brick wall by trying to explain a definition, I'll have a glass of wine instead. It doesn't matter that much to me. I don't tell random people not to drink, smoke or ride a horse. Or even to tell obese people not to eat a kebab.
There are seemingly plenty of guardians of public morals already.
 
Mongoose11 said:
:) feel free to concede, it's clear that MSR meant that the women were oppressed by women through moral indignation. That's clearly her opinion, it's just a nonsensical one.
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I responded presuming that HR had made an unnecessary new paragraph. Perhaps she meant to and perhaps she didn't, however only HR can offer the answer to that one.

I am not interested in one-upmanship, way too old for all that nonsense, but you certainly appear to be a fully fledged member of that club.
 
Spring Feather said:
Actually I don't. I responded presuming that HR had made an unnecessary new paragraph. Perhaps she meant to and perhaps she didn't, however only HR can offer the answer to that one.

I am not interested in one-upmanship, way too old for all that nonsense, but you certainly appear to be a fully fledged member of that club.
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Naaaah just a bit of an argumentative old cow tonight who doesn't like to see pregnant women drinking or smoking. I'm not that bad really.
 
Mongoose11 said:
Naaaah just a bit of an argumentative old cow tonight who doesn't like to see pregnant women drinking or smoking. I'm not that bad really.
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I'm sure you're not that bad, or at least I've never seen you be like this before on here. I enjoy indepth discussions, there haven't been many on this forum for such a long time and it's been quite 'exciting' being part of it. I'm actually disinterested in most people and what they get up to in real life. I'm not even that interested in what people do on here either, however I do enjoy a good old debate!
 
Fides said:
I'd like to see them act responsibly and treat the growing baby with the absolute care and deference it deserves.
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I'm sure we all do. However, the mother more than a carrier for a her child. She is a human being with imperfections and living life through good times and bad. Being supportive to other women tends to get better results than outright condemnation.

I would not refuse a woman a ride on my horse on the grounds she was pregnant and incapable of a risk assessment.
I would not tell her to put down her glass of wine either.
It's just patronising and quite rude really.
 
dogatemysalad said:
I'm sure we all do. However, the mother more than a carrier for a her child. She is a human being with imperfections and living life through good times and bad. Being supportive to other women tends to get better results than outright condemnation.

I would not refuse a woman a ride on my horse on the grounds she was pregnant and incapable of a risk assessment.
I would not tell her to put down her glass of wine either.
It's just patronising and quite rude really.
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As has been p[ointed out to me already about my viewpoint - you have said that many times already.

This thread is going round in circles and getting off the original topic.

My answer is no I wouldn't let a pregant woman rider either of my horses

1) They are 14h2 and with 'baby weight' she would likely be to heavy.
2) They are a newly broken 5 year old and a green 6yo so I doubt a pregnant woman would want to risk it anyway ;)
3) They are my horses and I choose who rides them (or not) and if the theoretical pregant woman doesn't like it she is always free to ride someone elses horse, or at a riding school, or even get their own
 
I'm finding it hard to believe people think it's rude and patronising to refuse someone to ride your.. Own.. Horse no matter what grounds you chose to refuse the ride.

If I own the horse it's my choice not hers she can ride many other avaliable horses just not mine.
 
risky business said:
I'm finding it hard to believe people think it's rude and patronising to refuse someone to ride your.. Own.. Horse no matter what grounds you chose to refuse the ride.

If I own the horse it's my choice not hers she can ride many other available horses just not mine.
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I think the issue surrounds previously given consent being withdrawn because the woman is pregnant, rather than allowing someone to ride your horse.

(I'm so not sleepy tonight, am probably expecting one of the grandchildren to come creeping down the stairs..)
 
Wow, this thread got a bit tedious.

I have had probably a few drinks in the total time of my pregnancy so far. Mostly at social occasions and it has been one glass and thats it. No one around me batted an eyelid. I have read studies about alcohol in pregnancy and from what I have ascertained, nobody really knows for sure. Its like people who can smoke until they are 90 without any health problems, and others who develop cancer. There is no hard and fast rules, despite how we keep trying to make everyone the same.

I bought some lemongrass tea a while back and was happily drinking it. Happened to google it and was horrified to find out it was to be avoided in pregnancy! As it could allegedly cause miscarriage. I investigated further and it turns out that this 'advice' was based on a study where they injected a concentrated component of lemongrass directly into the abdomens of pregnant monkeys for a period of time which induced miscarriage and damage to the babies they were carrying. From this they deduced that drinking a cup of tea was dangerous!! WTF. Its ridiculous!! So I finished my tea with a clear mind. There is so much *******s that we are bombarded with during pregnancy, and interfering sanctimonious, opinionated women do not help either.

Hysterical, judgemental harpies are not attractive and would get told to naff off from me. My mother drank guiness throughout her pregnancy with my sister, who is a highly intelligent, sucessful business woman now.

And I ate some boursin soft cheese yesterday. The world has gone mad.
 
Serephin said:
And I ate some boursin soft cheese yesterday. The world has gone mad.
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Oh no, Boursin is fine, I checked! I was going to France and I couldn't think about going without having nice bread and Boursin (I know you can buy it here, but it's not as tasty out of France IMHO :p )

http://www.boursin.ca/en/questions-and-answers.php

The social drinking is funny, I had to stop people offering me wine as the older generation were mostly of the opinion that one glass wouldn't hurt.
 
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