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Husband is selling one of his mares. We’ve got someone that came to try Her 2 weeks ago, fell in love, but wanted to organise a vetting and to ride her in a school, I have a small outdoor school but with the rain it’s deep and slippery (although they did try her in there first) so I’ve organised to borrow my grandmothers school for them, they said they would arrange a date, but we had no further contact.
I called them yesterday to see what their plans where as we have a list of people that want to come but I’ve given them first refusal- but as far they’ve not arrange the vetting and are trying to set a date with their riding instructor to come back, I’ve tried to be as accommodating as I can but they want to come at 8/9/10pm which just isn’t feesable for me, I’ve got 4 young children and as I’m borrowing a school I’ve got to take him there and back home again, & my grandmother doesn’t particularly want a group of people she doesn’t know wandering around her property in the dark- which is fair, it’s her property & when they came to view last there was 7 of them!
ive explained that this isn’t feesable for us and given the reasons above which they’ve agreed and again said they wil re-arrange. All they could day to me on the phone was “please don’t sell her to anyone else” they haven’t left a deposit nor do they want too until she’s vetted, which they haven’t organised.
so, would you wait for them? Or allow others to view on the basis you would let them know if someone else wants to purchase? They’re aware that there are others, I don’t want to force a sale by any means, but hunting season is now upon us & I’m still having to ride her to keep her going (she’s not a pick up and put down horse, she has to be worked everyday) and I’m struggling to find enough hours in the day at the moment!
 
I would allow anyone else who wants to view her, they should have left a deposit, subject to vetting, if they 'fell in love'. They don't sound like serious buyers to me. If you feel some obligation to them, tell them that unless they can give you *today* a time and date for the 2nd viewing before the end of this week, you will be showing her to other people.

As with houses," it's on the market until it's sold".
 
Thank you. When I say I don’t want to push a sale, obviously I want her to sell, but I know if someone was to be on at me all the time & essentially in a rush to sell it would probably set alarm bells ringing for me.
Husband agrees with you all & says I’m being too soft.
 
Bs_mum said:
Thank you. When I say I don’t want to push a sale, obviously I want her to sell, but I know if someone was to be on at me all the time & essentially in a rush to sell it would probably set alarm bells ringing for me.
Husband agrees with you all & says I’m being too soft.
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It’s been two weeks, that is hardly a rush.
 
They are wasting your time. They said what wanted a vetting when what they really want is a 2nd viewing. Whatever offer they have made is irrelevant because they want a 2nd viewing! Which means they have not made their mind up yet. So I would not even give them a date. Put her back on the market immediately and let them know that you are re-starting viewings. They are more than welcome to come and view her again at a time convenient to you, but that you will not reserve her for them (or anyone else) without a non refundable deposit or an arranged and paid for vetting.
 
Bs_mum said:
they haven’t left a deposit nor do they want too until she’s vetted, which they haven’t organised yet!
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Deposits are refundable if a vetting fails. And you could accept the vetting instead of the deposit if they have paid for it as this is also a financial commitment on their part. This is all screaming time wasters to me. Or at least people who are pretending to be incredibly keen when they are still keeping their options open as they have not quite decided if they are having her yet so don't want to put their money where their mouth is.
 
X posted. Hope you find a buyer soon. Selling horses and ponies is so incredibly stressful! I don't know how people do it for a living!
 
They do sound like timewasters. I wouldn't have bothered ringing them to ask when they wanted to come view her if I were in your shoes.


Start letting others view and definately don't hold until you have a deposit.
 
Ambers Echo said:
Deposits are refundable if a vetting fails. And you could accept the vetting instead of the deposit if they have paid for it as this is also a financial commitment on their part. This is all screaming time wasters to me. Or at least people who are pretending to be incredibly keen when they are still keeping their options open as they have not quite decided if they are having her yet so don't want to put their money where their mouth is.
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I can’t imagine her ever failing a vetting, but if she was to then obviously I would refund a deposit. Had they of paid and arranged for a vetting then I would take that instead of a deposit. They asked what vet to use, I told them any vet they liked, but made them aware who my own vet was as I know while he’ll give them a reference he won’t vet horses under his care (plus he’s my ex husband so he won’t because we’ve got personal history)

Ambers Echo said:
X posted. Hope you find a buyer soon. Selling horses and ponies is so incredibly stressful! I don't know how people do it for a living!
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I know, I couldn’t do it. I’m not a big people person anyway!
 
So I tried to call, but no answer, so I sent a message.
they’ve replied to say they want to view her again on the weekend, their instructor can’t attend, so they’re bringing someone else to try her?!?!?! Not willing to leave a deposit until after they’ve ridden for the second time.
I’m really inclined to say no? Is that fair?
 
I think they're joy riders. No intention of buying, just want some free rides. Would you really want the horse to go to such flaky people anyway?

In your shoes I'd say, that's fine but you will be allowing other interested parties to view over the weekend too.
 
Bs_mum said:
Not willing to leave a deposit until after they’ve ridden for the second time.
I’m really inclined to say no? Is that fair?
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YES! FFS I am annoyed on your behalf. They can arange a 2nd viewing if they like. In the meantime she is for sale. If they want her off the market they need to pay a deposit to secure her.
 
Dear ....
Thank you for your message. You are more than welcome to view again. However we are not able to hold her for you as we have other interested parties. In order to have her taken off the market, you would need to pay a deposit to secure her. This would be refunded should she not pass the vet. Let me know if you plan to view this weekend and I will make the necessary arrangements. It she sells in the meantime, I will let you know.
Kind regards

And that's being nice! Many people would just have just started ignoring them by now.
 
I strongly suspect they won't view. That won't mean you have scared them off by pressuring them but that they were never serious in the first place. If they truly want her they will either pay the deposit or arrange the viewing PDQ and hope she stays available. Same rules apply after viewing: she remains for sale until they book a vetting or pay a deposit.
 
Ambers Echo said:
Dear ....
Thank you for your message. You are more than welcome to view again. However we are not able to hold her for you as we have other interested parties. In order to have her taken off the market, you would need to pay a deposit to secure her. This would be refunded should she not pass the vet. Let me know if you plan to view this weekend and I will make the necessary arrangements. It she sells in the meantime, I will let you know.
Kind regards

And that's being nice! Many people would just have just started ignoring them by now.
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This is what I would do too. Youve been more than fair, by waiting for them to decide what to do you could be missing out on other buyers and the longer shes on the market, the more people may think, shes been up for sale for a while. They could come at weekend, still like her, then you have to wait for the vetting. Its hard but first come first serve. Definately allow others to view in the mean time.
Good Luck x
 
Louby said:
The longer shes on the market, the more people may think, shes been up for sale for a while.
Good Luck x
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That's a really good point. People do notice that the same horse has been advertised for a while and start wondering if there is a reason why the horse has not sold. Unfortunatelt 'still for sale due to time-wasters' - which ins your case is true - also rings alarm bells because that often means 'failed the vet'!
 
I think that sadly for whatever reason they have changed their mind, otherwise they would have taken more decisive action.
 
Ambers Echo said:
Dear ....
Thank you for your message. You are more than welcome to view again. However we are not able to hold her for you as we have other interested parties. In order to have her taken off the market, you would need to pay a deposit to secure her. This would be refunded should she not pass the vet. Let me know if you plan to view this weekend and I will make the necessary arrangements. It she sells in the meantime, I will let you know.
Kind regards

And that's being nice! Many people would just have just started ignoring them by now.
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This is what I would do.
 
Bs_mum said:
So I tried to call, but no answer, so I sent a message.
they’ve replied to say they want to view her again on the weekend, their instructor can’t attend, so they’re bringing someone else to try her?!?!?! Not willing to leave a deposit until after they’ve ridden for the second time.
I’m really inclined to say no? Is that fair?
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Not having a deposit actually makes matters easier if they mess about, I would tell them they can come at the weekend but only if they have booked a vet for early next week, they can cancel if they change their mind but having it booked will at least mean you know they are serious and will not have another week to wait for the vetting, I have done this in the past and it works well, I would also push for them to come on Sat so you have Sunday for any new viewings if they pull out.
 
i text back to say they where welcome to come and view, providing they contact me the day before to see if she’s still available. To which I was met with the response of “please don’t sell her to anyone else” so I told them a deposit would secure, they asked how much, so I said I’d like 10% and I haven’t had a reply. Lesson learnt!
 
They are def messing you around. When I was horse hunting last year I struggled to view things at short notice because of kids and full time work and so lost out on a number of horses, but that’s just life, there’s no way I’d expect a horse to be held for me if I’d not put a deposit down or arranged a vetting. I had one that on the first viewing fell in love with, paid a deposit at the first viewing with a agreement that the vetting would be arranged within 2wks or she’d show to others, and that was only because i couldn’t get booked in at the vet sooner. Had I not paid a deposit she would have carried on showing to others til the vet came. Ironically it then failed the vet, but the point is she was firm but fair, and to be honest that’s the kind of no-nonsense person that is easiest to buy from!
 
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