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Try phoning the YO from a different phone as there is a better chance of them picking the call up. I would ask if they no longer intended to give your horse their feed although it does seem a bit odd that they put the haynet in which must take more time than just popping a feed bucket over the door.

Are the bloods for stangles? My horse had a positive result for a blood test for strangles even though I know that he had never had it as I had had him from a just weaned foal. My vet did say that this does happen sometimes. Would the new yard still take you if the bloods did not come back clean?
 
Boulty said:
If you can take the financial hit & new yard can accept you early I’d honestly just leave ASAP. If they’re prepared to deliberately not feed your horse in order to cause distress then it would worry me what else they may be prepared to do when you’re not around.

People who initially appear sane & rational can behave in some totally unbelievable ways when they think you’ve slighted them.

It is not the norm to suddenly stop providing services & immediately remove you from yard messaging groups the second you give your notice (normal protocol if leaving on what should be good terms would be to only remove you after you’ve left)
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This exactly.

I was totally ignored in person by YO, blocked my phone number, blocked on FB and removed from Whatsapp group and had some really nasty lies told about me.

I thankfully wasn't the first - literally every person who had left before me (about 10 in a year) had the same treatment, so knew what to expect and left within 48 hours of handing notice in. I'd booked annual leave off work so was there both ends of the day to do him despite being on part livery as had seen previous liveries 'forgotten' to feed, turn out, be mucked out or bought in ... ho estly, you couldn't make it up!

I also didn't hand my notice in until until I had the space at the new yard was empty.

It was expensive and stressful despite knowing what was coming, so you have my full sympathy if this has come as a surprise. Hope you can get out of there ASAP.
 
eggs said:
Try phoning the YO from a different phone as there is a better chance of them picking the call up. I would ask if they no longer intended to give your horse their feed although it does seem a bit odd that they put the haynet in which must take more time than just popping a feed bucket over the door.

Are the bloods for stangles? My horse had a positive result for a blood test for strangles even though I know that he had never had it as I had had him from a just weaned foal. My vet did say that this does happen sometimes. Would the new yard still take you if the bloods did not come back clean?
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I think, dare I say, it's to torture him in some way as he will see and kick off that the others are not being fed.

The haynets are already made up. They were tied sloppily to the door frame yesterday and it was on the floor. Not ideal when horse is shod.

We've already had a positive test and pouch wash which was clear, last year, and he's not left the yard, so the new yard are happy to accept on the basis the test results are the same, not higher, than previous.
 
MuddyMonster said:
This exactly.

I was totally ignored in person by YO, blocked my phone number, blocked on FB and removed from Whatsapp group and had some really nasty lies told about me.

I thankfully wasn't the first - literally every person who had left before me (about 10 in a year) had the same treatment, so knew what to expect and left within 48 hours of handing notice in. I'd booked annual leave off work so was there both ends of the day to do him despite being on part livery as had seen previous liveries 'forgotten' to feed, turn out, be mucked out or bought in ... ho estly, you couldn't make it up!

I also didn't hand my notice in until until I had the space at the new yard was empty.

It was expensive and stressful despite knowing what was coming, so you have my full sympathy if this has come as a surprise. Hope you can get out of there ASAP.
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I'm so sorry and glad you got out okay.

This isn't new behaviour, from what I've heard, although I didn't know this until now, so I take some twisted comfort in that it's not me.

It's such a shame.
 
Apizz2019 said:
I think, dare I say, it's to torture him in some way as he will see and kick off that the others are not being fed.

The haynets are already made up. They were tied sloppily to the door frame yesterday and it was on the floor. Not ideal when horse is shod.

We've already had a positive test and pouch wash which was clear, last year, and he's not left the yard, so the new yard are happy to accept on the basis the test results are the same, not higher, than previous.
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On the basis that the location of the haynet puts your horse at immense risk, can you swop to him having the hay at that time of day in a large tub or similarly idiot-proof way until he leaves?
 
PurpleSpots said:
On the basis that the location of the haynet puts your horse at immense risk, can you swop to him having the hay at that time of day in a large tub or similarly idiot-proof way until he leaves?
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I have a hay tub but they've not been able to close the lid properly since I've had it.

We're not allowed hay on the floor or in tubs.
 
Is nt it awful that businesses cannot be run professionally. I’ve been on a couple of yards where I witnessed the behaviour of the YO turn from friendly to hostile when someone legitimately gave 4 weeks notice and when it was my turn to move on I made sure I paid the full notice but left within a day or two of saying I was leaving, expressly to avoid the hostility. One lunatic stood in front of my trailer so I couldn’t move it..screaming that I paid an additional £15 for trailer parking for the month when my trailer wasn’t going to be parked there. My OH calmly gave her it saying you obviously need it more than we do and her husband stood there looking thoroughly embarrassed. Funnily enough I left because th3 part livery was hit and miss…if she had friends round for a drink she d forget to feed my girls..or she d be bringing in at 10 pm in pitch black and crappy weather.
Leave asap without a backward glance and just make it through the next few days.
 
Midlifecrisis said:
Is nt it awful that businesses cannot be run professionally. I’ve been on a couple of yards where I witnessed the behaviour of the YO turn from friendly to hostile when someone legitimately gave 4 weeks notice and when it was my turn to move on I made sure I paid the full notice but left within a day or two of saying I was leaving, expressly to avoid the hostility. One lunatic stood in front of my trailer so I couldn’t move it..screaming that I paid an additional £15 for trailer parking for the month when my trailer wasn’t going to be parked there. My OH calmly gave her it saying you obviously need it more than we do and her husband stood there looking thoroughly embarrassed. Funnily enough I left because th3 part livery was hit and miss…if she had friends round for a drink she d forget to feed my girls..or she d be bringing in at 10 pm in pitch black and crappy weather.
Leave asap without a backward glance and just make it through the next few days.
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I do understand a little how YOs take it personally, especially when they have given their heart and soul to making a happy place for everyone to be. It must feel like a break up of a relationship, and I get that, but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed.

It's a shame. I had hoped to remain friends and leave on good terms.
 
It seems some YO's become deranged lunatics when notice is given. One locked our horses overnight in a tiny bald paddock used for burning rubbish and refused to answer the door when I tried to speak to her. (We were the only livery at a farm). I had to lift the gate off it's hinges to get them out. The new yard owner was brilliant and came over with a trailer straight away, but I was in bad books at work for taking emergency leave to sort it out.

Hope you get sorted soon x
 
I suddenly feel better about being upset that my yard threw my horses passport on the floor outside his stable just before he left... Granted there was drawers etc inside his stable where I asked for it to be left to arrive at the yard to find it just on the floor. But that feels like a tiny problem in comparison now 😅
 
cobsandbassets said:
It seems some YO's become deranged lunatics when notice is given. One locked our horses overnight in a tiny bald paddock used for burning rubbish and refused to answer the door when I tried to speak to her. (We were the only livery at a farm). I had to lift the gate off it's hinges to get them out. The new yard owner was brilliant and came over with a trailer straight away, but I was in bad books at work for taking emergency leave to sort it out.

Hope you get sorted soon x
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Wow! No words.

It's just so disheartening. 😞 X
 
cmkeventing said:
I suddenly feel better about being upset that my yard threw my horses passport on the floor outside his stable just before he left... Granted there was drawers etc inside his stable where I asked for it to be left to arrive at the yard to find it just on the floor. But that feels like a tiny problem in comparison now 😅
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It still hurts, no matter what it is. The behaviour changes and the trust goes. It's not a great place to be - such an unhealthy way to manage business.
 
Apizz2019 said:
It still hurts, no matter what it is. The behaviour changes and the trust goes. It's not a great place to be - such an unhealthy way to manage business.
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Oh completely! I was trying to leave on the best note possible but it was just a kick in the teeth to find something that is quite important just tossed on the floor when it was easy to treat it with a little bit of care. I just dont see why people have to become so horrible. Looks so much worse on them when/if it gets out.
 
Burnttoast said:
Hope you are able to get out asap and without incident. It's really amazing how unprofessional some horse people can be and apparently completely unaware of how bad it is for their business. They're never going to get repeat custom from you and word often does get around.
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It is amazing yet also very sad. It's moments of madness that ruin reputations. Shame as it is a lovely place and they are a lovely person, just not when prodded.
 
You need to get out asap
If she has been feeding the horse in afternoon as it’s a requirement that it’s done at the same time she won’t have a leg to stand on if you take her to the small claims court .
Or if you can’t bothered move and then tell everyone you meet the story .
I have no idea why some livery owners and manager are so batshit crazy when someone moves on, but it’s definitely a thing .
 
Apizz2019 said:
I do understand a little how YOs take it personally, especially when they have given their heart and soul to making a happy place for everyone to be. It must feel like a break up of a relationship, and I get that, but there is a line that shouldn't be crossed.

It's a shame. I had hoped to remain friends and leave on good terms.
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This is the problem.
The yard owner had no need to be your friend .
It’s business and it’s better if that’s how everyone thinks of it especially the yard owner .
You can change hair dresser without people having a hissy fit
Not feeding a horse is despicable.
 
Goldenstar said:
You need to get out asap
If she has been feeding the horse in afternoon as it’s a requirement that it’s done at the same time she won’t have a leg to stand on if you take her to the small claims court .
Or if you can’t bothered move and then tell everyone you meet the story .
I have no idea why some livery owners and manager are so batshit crazy when someone moves on, but it’s definitely a thing .
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I just want gone.

I didn't know if I was being a little over the top so wanted the general concensus. You know when you're not sure if it's you, because you can't fathom what you've done wrong, but of course it must be you, because it's ridiculous to think anyone would be so awful? I was there but now I'm not.

Thank you. 😊
 
Goldenstar said:
This is the problem.
The yard owner had no need to be your friend .
It’s business and it’s better if that’s how everyone thinks of it especially the yard owner .
You can change hair dresser without people having a hissy fit
Not feeding a horse is despicable.
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That's a very good way to look at it. The hairdresser comparison is 100% on the money.

When I say friends, I meant friendly, not friends as in meeting up, having chats etc. I used the wrong terminology. Just a friendly exit would be nice.
 
Apizz2019 said:
That's a very good way to look at it. The hairdresser comparison is 100% on the money.

When I say friends, I meant friendly, not friends as in meeting up, having chats etc. I used the wrong terminology. Just a friendly exit would be nice.
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It needs to be professional that’s all .
I don’t why some find this so hard .
 
I can totally relate to this as our YO has been vile to people who have handed in their notice and all have left in a matter of days regardless of the notice period. We’ve always been fine with her though but I’m very wary….i would actually like to go to somewhere with more turnout but we have no other options within 45 mins so we are stuck…and it works for us in most other ways. Winter is just rubbish. I actually thought you were on our yard the way YO reacted to you!! God forbid we ever actually do hand in our notice as I dread to think the reaction we will meet!!

I wish you a speedy exit, it will be over soon!!!
 
Apizz2019 said:
I've given notice to leave our current yard, and, sadly, things have gone from great to awful in a matter of hours.

Our horse hasn't settled as well as we had hoped at our current yard and I feel the lack of turnout is a contributing factor but is something neither I or the YO can change, so have made my decision to leave to go to a yard where we can have all year around turnout. I've also found somewhere much closer to home which is a huge bonus.

Current yard is beautiful, fabulous facilities, lovely YO, or so I thought, but it's just not worked for us.

I discovered our horse hadn't been fed his dinner this evening as is and has always been the routine, he's fed along with all other horses.

I'm on part livery but make up all feeds, haynets, etc so it's a case of popping nets and feed in when the others are fed.

I thought that maybe it was an oversight somehow but was ignored on the group chat when I said he hadn't had his dinner, and upon looking at socials I realised I had been removed, so it now appears I'm in bad books and as a result the usual services, or dinner at least, may now not be given. This isn't ideal as our horse is used to this routine and was clearly upset at feeding time, as witnessed by two other liveries who didn't realise he was meant to be fed.

I just don't know how to approach this.
I've never been in a situation like this before and am stumped.

I'm paid up for this month but will see if I can leave earlier, although this isn't ideal as double livery for this month will be in excess of 1k but I'll have to dig deep for our horses sake, if this is the way things are going to be.

The current yard is an hour round trip so I'm going to message again first thing to ask if he's going to be fed, and if not, I'll have to jiggle things around at work to get there in the afternoon and then back again in the evening.

What should I say and/or do? I'm feeling a bit helpless and at the mercy of YO.
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On part livery but you have to do the feeds and hay???? wow poor service, I feed all my parts and diy's if they leave outside door but parts get fed and hay everyday included.
 
Apizz2019 said:
I'm not sure why my thread has evoked a laughing reaction.

I certainly don't find it funny. Not sure others would either.

Slip of the finger, I hope.
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I've just noticed that! I am sure that @southerncomfort must have had a slip of the finger, nobody would think your opening post was funny in any way at all. Unless of course they are your YO which I am sure they aren't. 😕

Hopefully they will see my tag and rectify the emoji, I can see how it would be upsetting after all that you have going on with the yard at the moment.I hope you are soon settled in at new yard and it turns out to be a blessing in disguise.😊
 
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