Yay! It's bran mash time!
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MizElz
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Aha! I have just been informed that the missing ingredient from my 'bran mash' is linseed....
sorry to have misled anyone....
I will now call Ellie's dinner 'hot dinner mixed up with bran'
sorry to have misled anyone....
I will now call Ellie's dinner 'hot dinner mixed up with bran'
MistletoeMegan
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Is it not? Well could you tell me what is, please, because every aspect of my equine educational background has taught me that it is!
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Bran mash is just bran + hot water, maybe with a dash of limestone powder if we're feeling vaguely nutritionally aware. Fed traditionally to convalescent horses.
Your feed is just a normal feed mixed with hot water as opposed to cold
Is it not? Well could you tell me what is, please, because every aspect of my equine educational background has taught me that it is!
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Bran mash is just bran + hot water, maybe with a dash of limestone powder if we're feeling vaguely nutritionally aware. Fed traditionally to convalescent horses.
Your feed is just a normal feed mixed with hot water as opposed to cold
asbo
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gosh i remember when you fed a bran mash on a sunday or on the horses day off lol.
always fed limestone with it though.
if i want to feed warm feeds i use hot water on my speedibeet lol
always fed limestone with it though.
if i want to feed warm feeds i use hot water on my speedibeet lol
_Libby_
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Agree
Whenever I have seen a bran mash its been a bucket of sloppy brown stuff with nothing else in it!
Whenever I have seen a bran mash its been a bucket of sloppy brown stuff with nothing else in it!
JM07
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Is it not? Well could you tell me what is, please, because every aspect of my equine educational background has taught me that it is!
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a bran mash is surprisingly made up of................................................................................................................................................................................
BRAN!!!!!
Is it not? Well could you tell me what is, please, because every aspect of my equine educational background has taught me that it is!
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a bran mash is surprisingly made up of................................................................................................................................................................................
BRAN!!!!!
_Libby_
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Was just about to ask that- in winter is it o.k to use warm water for ur speedi beet and feed it before it cools?
TGM
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BTW you will find the bran information on the HHO main website - not that that can be trusted either, i suppose
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Nutritionist Ruth Bishop says: "Bran used to be made differently in the past. Due to changes in the milling process the particles are smaller now. The fibre (12%) and energy supply is what has made bran so popular as a feed for days off and after hunting. In feeding it, you up the fibre supply, cut the starch and maintain a similar amount of energy in the diet. It is also tasty and great for tempting a tired or fussy horse.
"But bran, like other cereals, contains a high level of phosphorus and almost no calcium, which is not good. A horse needs about twice as much calcium as phosphorus. Feeding just bran on a day off also means a drastic cut in vitamins and minerals, just when a horse needs them for repair after exertion.
"If it's a double handful in a fully nutritious feed, bran won't do any harm. But a bran mash once a week is not recommended because there is a risk of colic associated with any sudden dietary change."
Teresa Hollands adds: "I would not generally recommend bran. It has little nutritional value and is not easily digested, so it can absorb minerals, reducing their availability to the horse.
"Bran can be useful for older horses that suffer from impaction problems, as it has a laxative effect. But because of its inverse calcium to phosphorus ratio, the horse might need its calcium levels boosted, by feeding alfalfa, for example, which is rich in calcium."
This formed part of a feature in Horse & Hound's feeding special (13 October, '05)
BTW you will find the bran information on the HHO main website - not that that can be trusted either, i suppose
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Nutritionist Ruth Bishop says: "Bran used to be made differently in the past. Due to changes in the milling process the particles are smaller now. The fibre (12%) and energy supply is what has made bran so popular as a feed for days off and after hunting. In feeding it, you up the fibre supply, cut the starch and maintain a similar amount of energy in the diet. It is also tasty and great for tempting a tired or fussy horse.
"But bran, like other cereals, contains a high level of phosphorus and almost no calcium, which is not good. A horse needs about twice as much calcium as phosphorus. Feeding just bran on a day off also means a drastic cut in vitamins and minerals, just when a horse needs them for repair after exertion.
"If it's a double handful in a fully nutritious feed, bran won't do any harm. But a bran mash once a week is not recommended because there is a risk of colic associated with any sudden dietary change."
Teresa Hollands adds: "I would not generally recommend bran. It has little nutritional value and is not easily digested, so it can absorb minerals, reducing their availability to the horse.
"Bran can be useful for older horses that suffer from impaction problems, as it has a laxative effect. But because of its inverse calcium to phosphorus ratio, the horse might need its calcium levels boosted, by feeding alfalfa, for example, which is rich in calcium."
This formed part of a feature in Horse & Hound's feeding special (13 October, '05)
asbo
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yip means its ready sooner
just make sure its warm when you feed it & not hot
just make sure its warm when you feed it & not hot
SecretSquirrell379
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Thats what I do and Cropi loves it
arwenplusone
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IMO, if you listened to all the scientific studies and findings these days, you'd be scared to feed anything! The fact is that many horses have been fed bran for years and years, and they didnt suddenly fall ill because of it! I've been brought up the old fashioned way, and it works for me!
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Just because it has been fed for years and years doesn't mean it is right
and IMHO the scientific studies are a step forwards.
IMO, if you listened to all the scientific studies and findings these days, you'd be scared to feed anything! The fact is that many horses have been fed bran for years and years, and they didnt suddenly fall ill because of it! I've been brought up the old fashioned way, and it works for me!
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Just because it has been fed for years and years doesn't mean it is right
TGM
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Is it not? Well could you tell me what is, please, because every aspect of my equine educational background has taught me that it is!
[/ QUOTE ] Making a bran mash
Ingredients
3lbs bran
1 generous handful salt
Boiling water
Molasses to taste
Put the bran into a bucket and add the salt.
Pour in the boiling water - as much as the bran absorbs. Don't overdo it - a mash should be crumbly, not sloppy.
Add some molasses to make the mash extra tasty. (Some people prefer to add a level scoop of oats to the mixture.)
Stir well and cover.
When cooled slightly, but still warm (usually after 15-20mins), serve up.
Is it not? Well could you tell me what is, please, because every aspect of my equine educational background has taught me that it is!
[/ QUOTE ] Making a bran mash
Ingredients
3lbs bran
1 generous handful salt
Boiling water
Molasses to taste
Put the bran into a bucket and add the salt.
Pour in the boiling water - as much as the bran absorbs. Don't overdo it - a mash should be crumbly, not sloppy.
Add some molasses to make the mash extra tasty. (Some people prefer to add a level scoop of oats to the mixture.)
Stir well and cover.
When cooled slightly, but still warm (usually after 15-20mins), serve up.
MizElz
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Is it not? Well could you tell me what is, please, because every aspect of my equine educational background has taught me that it is!
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a bran mash is surprisingly made up of................................................................................................................................................................................
BRAN!!!!!
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Gosh, I would never have guessed! How silly of me to have thought that by adding ingredients, the 'original' name may remain unaltered. If you have a 'chicken casserole', do you assume that it contains ONLY chicken? Perhaps 'Chicken-and-onion-and-carrot-and-leek' etc would be more appropriate?
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Is it not? Well could you tell me what is, please, because every aspect of my equine educational background has taught me that it is!
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a bran mash is surprisingly made up of................................................................................................................................................................................
BRAN!!!!!
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Gosh, I would never have guessed! How silly of me to have thought that by adding ingredients, the 'original' name may remain unaltered. If you have a 'chicken casserole', do you assume that it contains ONLY chicken? Perhaps 'Chicken-and-onion-and-carrot-and-leek' etc would be more appropriate?
JM07
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Is it not? Well could you tell me what is, please, because every aspect of my equine educational background has taught me that it is!
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a bran mash is surprisingly made up of................................................................................................................................................................................
BRAN!!!!!
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Gosh, I would never have guessed! How silly of me to have thought that by adding ingredients, the 'original' name may remain unaltered. If you have a 'chicken casserole', do you assume that it contains ONLY chicken? Perhaps 'Chicken-and-onion-and-carrot-and-leek' etc would be more appropriate?
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not sure about the cassarole...i dont DO cooking......
but i certainly know how to make a bran mash.......
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Is it not? Well could you tell me what is, please, because every aspect of my equine educational background has taught me that it is!
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a bran mash is surprisingly made up of................................................................................................................................................................................
BRAN!!!!!
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Gosh, I would never have guessed! How silly of me to have thought that by adding ingredients, the 'original' name may remain unaltered. If you have a 'chicken casserole', do you assume that it contains ONLY chicken? Perhaps 'Chicken-and-onion-and-carrot-and-leek' etc would be more appropriate?
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not sure about the cassarole...i dont DO cooking......
but i certainly know how to make a bran mash.......
Weezy
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Fact is Miz, you are not feeding a bran mash in any way, shape, or form - you are feeding a hot feed, end of. Not sure why you are bothering to put bran in it though, as it doesn't add anything
arwenplusone
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why has the screen gone all wide???
_Libby_
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no idea but i dont like it!
TGM
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why has the screen gone all wide???
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why has the screen gone all wide???
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MizElz
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did you actually LEARN anything at Talland???
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yes, I learned that the three horses I was in charge of were fed twice a day. When I asked what exactly their feed consisted of, I was told:
'They both have bran mashes twice a day - one scoop of mix, one scoop of alfa a, 3/4 scoop of bran and 3 cups of water.'
Funny, in my training for PC tests, the story wasnt much different....and I passed them, so something must have been right!
did you actually LEARN anything at Talland???
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yes, I learned that the three horses I was in charge of were fed twice a day. When I asked what exactly their feed consisted of, I was told:
'They both have bran mashes twice a day - one scoop of mix, one scoop of alfa a, 3/4 scoop of bran and 3 cups of water.'
Funny, in my training for PC tests, the story wasnt much different....and I passed them, so something must have been right!
arwenplusone
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did you actually LEARN anything at Talland???
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yes, I learned that the three horses I was in charge of were fed twice a day. When I asked what exactly their feed consisted of, I was told:
'They both have bran mashes twice a day - one scoop of mix, one scoop of alfa a, 3/4 scoop of bran and 3 cups of water.'
Funny, in my training for PC tests, the story wasnt much different....and I passed them, so something must have been right!
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but didn't you just say you use ONE scoop of bran in yours? The above IS similar to a bran mash - what you described was a 'normal' feed with a scoop of bran in.
And can someone PLEASE fix this page?
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did you actually LEARN anything at Talland???
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yes, I learned that the three horses I was in charge of were fed twice a day. When I asked what exactly their feed consisted of, I was told:
'They both have bran mashes twice a day - one scoop of mix, one scoop of alfa a, 3/4 scoop of bran and 3 cups of water.'
Funny, in my training for PC tests, the story wasnt much different....and I passed them, so something must have been right!
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And can someone PLEASE fix this page?
FRESHMAN
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For me a bran mash is obviously Bran (the best broad leaf you can get) Epsom salts & hot water, with a little molasses if necessary to temp a fussy feeder. For me it would be given after a hard days hunting, & maybe on a day off after hard work, & should release any toxins in the horses system. A bit like a laxative or diuretic. I would use it as a flushing out. Horses tend to enjoy it although I would not feed it regularly especially without adding limestone flour. I actually heard of a horse recently still being fed thirds !!!!!! Now that is showing my age.
_Libby_
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arwenplusone- sorry to hijack post but your horse is stunning!
the watcher
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the difference there though is that the horses were being fed alfalfa, the calcium content of which would go towards balancing the bran, whereas you are feeding chaff, which does not.
Sometimes doing things and not knowing why can be a bit dangerous
Sometimes doing things and not knowing why can be a bit dangerous
Blackhawk
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MizElz I think it is used to encourage ill/old horses to eat as is soft and palatable
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That's what I've always associated bran mashes with.
MizElz I think it is used to encourage ill/old horses to eat as is soft and palatable
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That's what I've always associated bran mashes with.
arwenplusone
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arwenplusone- sorry to hijack post but your horse is stunning!
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Aw thanks
She has her moments tho'
arwenplusone- sorry to hijack post but your horse is stunning!
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Aw thanks
She has her moments tho'
MizElz
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but didn't you just say you use ONE scoop of bran in yours? The above IS similar to a bran mash - what you described was a 'normal' feed with a scoop of bran in.
And can someone PLEASE fix this page?
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hang on.....so you're telling me that the fact that I feed ONE SCOOP not THREE QUARTERS of a scoop makes the difference between a 'hot dinner' and a 'mash'? WTF!!!!!!!
or is it the chaff vs. alfa that you have picked up on? because Ellie won't eat alfa! Not for the want of trying!
And can someone PLEASE fix this page?
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hang on.....so you're telling me that the fact that I feed ONE SCOOP not THREE QUARTERS of a scoop makes the difference between a 'hot dinner' and a 'mash'? WTF!!!!!!!
or is it the chaff vs. alfa that you have picked up on? because Ellie won't eat alfa! Not for the want of trying!
Blackhawk
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arwenplusone- sorry to hijack post but your horse is stunning!
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She's very lovely in the flesh
arwenplusone- sorry to hijack post but your horse is stunning!
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She's very lovely in the flesh
arwenplusone
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No - apologies MizElz - I thought you meant 3 to 4 scoops! not 3quarters of a scoop. oopsy!
_Libby_
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QR Miz Elz- i dont think the quantity of bran is the issue here , it could be one scoop or three scoops, i think the point is that a bran mash is ONLY bran no other feeds mixed through.
MizElz
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the difference there though is that the horses were being fed alfalfa, the calcium content of which would go towards balancing the bran, whereas you are feeding chaff, which does not.
Sometimes doing things and not knowing why can be a bit dangerous
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That last statement sounds dangerously close to being patronising......
If calcium is the thing to be worried about, then no fear; Ellie has three different types of mineral lick to choose from! And yes, one of them IS calcium rich - I'm not that ignorant!
the difference there though is that the horses were being fed alfalfa, the calcium content of which would go towards balancing the bran, whereas you are feeding chaff, which does not.
Sometimes doing things and not knowing why can be a bit dangerous
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That last statement sounds dangerously close to being patronising......
If calcium is the thing to be worried about, then no fear; Ellie has three different types of mineral lick to choose from! And yes, one of them IS calcium rich - I'm not that ignorant!