Yet again the Blackmore and Sparkford Vale Hunt bringing hunting into disrepute

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No, theses people in the Blackmore Vale and collateral parts of Dorset and Somerset, have to be brought before the courts and taught, they have to observe the law of England and Wales. "Be you ever so high you are not above the law."
JM, this is where it is getting bonkers and personal and as such, lessens the impact of your argument.

I, as do most fair minded folk, dislike anyone who thinks they are beyond or above the law, no matter what their background or locality.

*whispers* despite having myself, many moons ago, attended a boarding prep school in Dorset o_O.
 

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Rowreach, you're Bucolic! I'm impressed, though I'm not sure why it's an insult. Is it like saying someone is 'nice'....?

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Rowreach, you're Bucolic! I'm impressed, though I'm not sure why it's an insult. Is it like saying someone is 'nice'....?

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Well that totally sums me up :D and my job, as it happens :p If you like squirrels, hares and bats ...
 

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I've got plenty of my own ๐Ÿ˜Š. I adore hares.

Are we allowed to like the birds too, or do you just do mammals?
Nope I do birds too, mostly swans and ducks but snipe and woodcock feature as well. Ill be doing moths and native wildflowers in the coming months as well ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
 

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Well I love the owls, especially the barn owls, just beautiful, and the little owls, so cute!

I've got loads of wildflowers because I haven't fertilised now for nearly thirty years :)
 

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Hunt comes under fire for crossing busy road in 'poorly lit conditions'
'It poses a serious threat to public safety'
By Tommy Joyce
    • 8:02, 23 FEB 2019
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The animal rights campaigners have called it a serious threat to public safety (Image: Somerset Wildlife Crime)

Anti-hunting campaigners have accused a hunt of being 'selfish' after releasing pictures of members crossing the road with hounds in poorly lit conditions.
Somerset Wildlife Crime and Hounds Off claim they photographed the Blackmore and Sparkford Vale Hunt on the evening of February 19, crossing the busy A352 near Longburton, Sherborne, at approximately 5.30pm.

Pictures show a huntsman with hounds crossing the main road in dim conditions with many cars nearby with their lights on.



It is alleged that this happened at 5.30pm on the A352 near Longburton in Dorset. (Image: Somerset Wildlife Crime)
A Facebook post from Somerset Wildlife Crime read: "Hunting until after dark on dangerous roads poses a serious threat to public safety.
"The Hounds Off monitor present was so concerned for the welfare on everyone on the road that he put his hazard lights on warning other drivers on the A352 of the dangerous obstruction caused by the hunt."
Somerset Live approached Countryside Alliance - the organisation which deals with press enquiries for hunts - but it failed to respond to our questions sent on Wednesday, February 20.




Allegedly, the animal rights group had to put their hazards on to notify other drivers (Image: Somerset Wildlife Crime)
Joe from Hounds Off said these occurrences are not a rarity.
"It happens all the time", said Joe.
"What I don't understand is how they can put public road users at risk by having horse and hounds on the road at dusk while drivers have their lights on. They are not illuminated at all.
"Our monitor had to put his hazards on to notify other road users. It's totally and utterly selfish and inconsiderate.
"I find it hard to believe that they were trail hunting, especially adjacent to a main road.
"I feel they are putting two fingers up to the law and the public by doing this."



It occurred in Dorset (Image: Somerset Wildlife Crime)
 

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I've ran into, not literally luckily, my local hunt on a busy A road in darker conditions than that, they are a law unto themselves
 

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JM we get it you don't approve of hunts in any shape or form. You therefore look for the worst in any situation where hunting is involved.

It looks to me as though they have come to the end of the day and have realised they are missing a (some) hound(s) and are therefore trying to retrieve it (them). In order not to endanger people by calling them from off the road (which potentially could cause hounds to run across the road without warning) they have put themselves into the road with other foot followers in cars with warning lights and called them from there.

Same picture different interpretation.;)
 

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JM we get it you don't approve of hunts in any shape or form. You therefore look for the worst in any situation where hunting is involved.

It looks to me as though they have come to the end of the day and have realised they are missing a (some) hound(s) and are therefore trying to retrieve it (them). In order not to endanger people by calling them from off the road (which potentially could cause hounds to run across the road without warning) they have put themselves into the road with other foot followers in cars with warning lights and called them from there.

Same picture different interpretation.;)
What's your interpretation of posts one and six?
 

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What's your interpretation of posts one and six?
I haven't drawn any conclusions a) I haven't watched the video b) even if I had I would be wary of whether it had been edited c) not prepared to take at face value JM description of events as they are not an unbiased poster

However I have the following observations: obviously hounds in the graveyard is not desirable, from knowledge of other hound packs I don't believe that they would have drawn in the graveyard (even pre-ban), trails are laid and hounds do occasionally either lose the trail completely and or pick up the wrong one, was the real trail laid adjacent to the church yard, hounds straying does not make it an illegal hunt.

There is no indication as JM has said that they deliberately hunted a fox through a graveyard, in fact in JM's own words no hunters were seen in the graveyard. So do I believe that the hunt deliberately sent hounds into the graveyard after a fox then the answer is no I don't
 

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So do I believe that the hunt deliberately sent hounds into the graveyard after a fox then the answer is no I don't
You are happy to declare that you have not seen the video. You need to see the video before you can make pronouncements like this.

The hunt, at best, made no effort to call hounds out of the graveyard and appeared to be encouraging them on to the fox until the monitors challenged them. There is very little editing of the video, the camcorder was left to run to see what the hunt would do if left to themselves. Pretty damning, actually.
 

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You really ought to watch the video Fred, with sound to listen to the huntsman. You will be well aware what the different calls mean I am sure and I think it would have been hard to edited them in.

I posted it as someone who does and would still be if I had a horse be hunting.
 

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There was I pottering about the Internet and on MSN. Suddenly there was an eruption of sound in the form of a pack of hounds in full cry. Having quickly deleted several screens, what did I find but the Blackmore and Sparkford Vale Hounds 'That Video' seemingly having gone viral. As part of Mr Jeremy Hunt's latest pledge to repeal the 2004 Hunting Act. Oh dear, Hunt went to Charterhouse whereas, dearest Bojo went to Eton.
 

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Has Judgmentals account been hacked by sabs ? From memory, JM has always been very pro hunt, but now he seems to have done a 180 degree turn.
I don't support any blood sport and rarely agree with JM, but I do support the right to have an authentic voice and identity.
If sabs want to voice their opinion, they should do it in their own name.
 

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Has Judgmentals account been hacked by sabs ? From memory, JM has always been very pro hunt, but now he seems to have done a 180 degree turn.
I don't support any blood sport and rarely agree with JM, but I do support the right to have an authentic voice and identity.
If sabs want to voice their opinion, they should do it in their own name.
My dear sir or madam, oh no, no sabs here! There is very deep historical meaning to my recent posts.
Leaving that aside, upon further investigation, I found that 'The Video' is being trailed (no pun intended) this morning by none other than The PRESS ASSOCIATION! That is a first.
Hunt's people will live to regret the idea of repealing the Hunting Act as part of Hunt's political offering. Because it will be married up with every possible adverse hunting image or 'optics' as is the current vernacular. Because and 'The Video' which is probably one of the best, makes it clear Charlie was being hunted through Charlton Hawthorne Church Yard.
There are 161,000 Conservative Party members eligible to vote for the next Prime Minister (ridiculously undemocratic) and potential repeal of the hunting act or no repeal, the majority will find hunting a fox through a church yard and one with cubs or about to sprog, as wholly unacceptable.
'That Video' could have a major impact on who is elected as the next
Prime Minister.
They, the 161,000 will feel they are adversely tainted by association with such an event.
 
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My dear sir or madam, oh no, no sabs here! There is very deep historical meaning to my recent posts.
Leaving that aside, upon further investigation, I found that 'The Video' is being trailed (no pun intended) this morning by none other than The PRESS ASSOCIATION! That is a first.
Hunt's people will live to regret the idea of repealing the Hunting Act as part of Hunt's political offering. Because it will be married up with every possible adverse hunting image or 'optics' as is the current vernacular. Because and 'The Video' which is probably one of the best, makes it clear Charlie was being hunted through Charlton Hawthorne Church Yard.
There are 161,000 Conservative Party members eligible to vote for the next Prime Minister (ridiculously undemocratic) and potential repeal of the hunting act or no repeal, the majority will find hunting a fox through a church yard and one with cubs or about to sprog, as wholly unacceptable.
'That Video' could have a major impact on who is elected as the next
Prime Minister.
They, the 161,000 will feel they are adversely tainted by association with such an event.
There are times when the cynical manipulative guile of Politian's beggars belief. Hunt has said he has never been hunting and does not know what it's all about, other than its something that goes on in the countryside. Mrs May tried the same ploy at the last unnecessary election, to get people to vote for the. Conservatives and look where that got her. Reckon one will better of with dearest Bojo and 20,000 more police officers to deal with sabs! None of them have a cat's chance in hell of repeal of the 2004 hunting act.
 
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