Yet another delightful rider..... not..... when will this end?

southerncomfort said:
I might have missed it, but I don't see any mention of any further diagnostics taking place after the horse was deemed lame in all 4 legs...?
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In another post she shared the vet report which says they x-rayed and scanned which didn’t show anything significant enough to be causing the lameness so they recommended further MRI and CT Scans to find the cause.

I imagine she would need permission from the other owners to follow up further which they are perhaps unwilling to do.
 
tristars said:
That horse is broken all over

How the fei vets can't see something is not plausible, but then bilateral lameness

Quality of vets

More indepth scrutiny at compo vetting, allowing dodgy horses to race or compete is no longer an option

Perhaps it's on something

It opens the door to how many other physically compromised horses are competing

How many horses are being broken physically by competing And modern training methods
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It’s not plausible that its lame on multiple legs on a hard surface after flexion but appears sound on a short trot up on surface in a potentially buzzy arena?

It's plenty plausible to me.

You want them to undergo flexion tests as 'more indepth scrutiny' at competition?
 
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I think adrenaline could mask the problem at a comp. This is on the other owners knowingly putting a sore/lame horse forward to compete in the first place. And is precisely why both Amber & Lottie were retired/ sold to a hacking only home, even though I had a good offer on Amber for a competing home. And got quite a bit of grief from the potential buyer when I said I was retiring her. 'But but she could..... x, y, z'. Yes she could. But I was never going to ask her to.
 
The stallions competing at that level are used to other horses, stallions mares geldings in the warmup, passing them working around them

They don't need to light up, or be dazzled by the show environment, it's an every day thing for them

They are generally relaxed, work up, warm up, competing
 
They don’t need it to hot up, unless you want to get them through the FEI trot up, you might find it useful then…! You don’t need to watch my Welsh pony shows to see the difference in paces a bit of spark can make and a busy trot up is pretty high tension. Maybe they did present this horse at the FEI trot up relaxed and being dragged along. But I expect its groom/rider gave it the ‘best’ chance possible of being accepted into the show. Does show jumping present stallions last? I know they’re pretty casual and it’s often the grooms and a lunge line!
 
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tristars said:
The stallions competing at that level are used to other horses, stallions mares geldings in the warmup, passing them working around them

They don't need to light up, or be dazzled by the show environment, it's an every day thing for them

They are generally relaxed, work up, warm up, competing
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have you been at lots of FEI trot ups recently?
 
KikiDee said:
In another post she shared the vet report which says they x-rayed and scanned which didn’t show anything significant enough to be causing the lameness so they recommended further MRI and CT Scans to find the cause.

I imagine she would need permission from the other owners to follow up further which they are perhaps unwilling to do.
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Thanks 👍
 
PurpleSpots said:
For me, there's a difference between a stallion (or any horse) who is just laid back and content with life, and one who looks like the horse in the videos of the lameness assessment.
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I was more referring to the "the horse was a 12yo stallion when those videos were taken" which sort of seems to imply that being a 12yo stallion means it can't be quiet.

There's no doubt in those videos it's NQR in multiple places. the ridden ones it's hard to tell if it's rider caused though - several horses under the same rider act the same under saddle, pinwheeling the tail and head tossing etc

But would also love to hear the other side of the story. Gorgeous horse anyway, shame it's being squabbled over like an expensive hockey stick in school changing rooms.
 
Just wish some of these so called athletes would understand, animal first, sport second, but there's far, far too much money at stake now and you can kind of understand the cutthroat attitude to winning when it is their livelihood. Maybe horse welfare will never be first in a world where there are 'professional' riders, because whilst it is possible to be kind and successful, someone will always want to take a shortcut, which usually means compromising somewhere and now it the compromise chosen always seems to be the well being of the animal.
 
The newest post is interesting, also states that they don't know where the horse has been stabled since May of 25, so who performed the November vetting? One of the other owners?

This seems a very complicated story and one i feel that needs proper lawyers involved that could now be at risk as has been shared on social media.
 
U.N.Owen said:
The newest post is interesting, also states that they don't know where the horse has been stabled since May of 25, so who performed the November vetting? One of the other owners?

This seems a very complicated story and one i feel that needs proper lawyers involved that could now be at risk as has been shared on social media.
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The vet assessment was done at a vet clinic I assume whoever has him transported him to.

It does all sound rather messy.
 
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