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I hadn't seen OK, so I went to the newsagents yesterday and I was too late — the newer issue had come out... was stood grumbling to myself and the man behind the counter must have overheard, as he disappeared into the back, resurfacing with the KP and Andrew one!

Was dead pleased, until I got it home and looked inside — tackiest thing I've ever seen, sooooo distasteful, and the 'Riders'-esque shoot was an insult to Jilly Cooper if you ask me (best book ever).

Hadn't really though about the money side of things for Andrew though — think I'd probably degrade myself for a tip top new horsey too
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And so it runs and runs...... brilliant!!!
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I can't believe how upset some people are getting - i've certainly voiced my opinion. Think the state of the yard comment is a load of bulls**t, and anyone with half a brain knows that.
AG and his wife have let the world in and become part of the KP circus - it's bringing fortune and fame, and they are now wide open to all the trappings it brings good and bad
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But hey ho, we're all entitled to an opinion and it makes hilarious reading when i'm meant to be working
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if that is aimed at me i just think she was rude which has annoyed me whether it be about AG and PG or not - you could say the same thing about Carl yard and i would still be annoyed !!

just remember people are watching and once you have said something it cant be taken back !!
 

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and the machine rolls on and on and on.....................

I just wish AG would let his riding take centre stage (cos it deserves too), BUT once the geney is out of box, there ain't no anyway it can go back in!!!!!

and sorry to say they have to take the good, bad and damn right horrilbe stuff............................ such a shame
 

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Out of interest do you think many professional people do read this forum. I'm not sure they do otherwise why not contribute. Some of the stuff on here is gossipy but an awful lot more is current affairs, training etc and no-one well known seems to contribute.

I know Laura Stockdale commented on the Corlato thread but thats very rare.
 

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lmao @ people are watching and it cant be taken back. Who cares? Unless you are going to have lessons or have a horse with them then so what. If they are watching then any rubbish they get said about them, serves them right. Selling out your reputation for money... well good luck to them. Thought they looked right numptys in the magazine, which i didnt buy, just looked at for a laugh. Making money out of slagging people off in the papers is alot nastier than posting comments on here.
 

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Out of interest do you think many professional people do read this forum. I'm not sure they do otherwise why not contribute. Some of the stuff on here is gossipy but an awful lot more is current affairs, training etc and no-one well known seems to contribute.

I know Laura Stockdale commented on the Corlato thread but thats very rare.

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I know a few that do actually !!!

not this forum but i know Carl Hester went on the BD one when he was slated by someone !!
 

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Of course your going to defend him, I understand you're upset..... what I was getting at is that anyone with some sense knows that how a yard looks has no bearing on Training, Care, Routine and facilities - i.e it's such a 'none' comment it's really not worth bothering with. As per my earlier post, the way a yard looks is completely irrelevent to these comments - how on earth anyone can tell from a car park is beyond me anyway, and in fact his Arena looks fab.
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and as for.....
just remember people are watching and once you have said something it cant be taken back !!

Was that at me......? I personally haven't attacked AG as a Rider & Trainer, just voicing my opinion about the situation (you reap what you sow etc) if i'm allowed to??? and I don't wish to take any of it back, that's the whole point of a forum.

Anyhoo, I genuinely appreciate you have an opinion too - especially in view that you have a relationship with said parties, but please also understand so do others when it comes to public figures jumping on the 'fame / press' bandwagon, notibly with the biggest manipulator of the Press, Miss KP (and no, I don't dislike like her)
 

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Of course your going to defend him, I understand you're upset..... what I was getting at is that anyone with some sense knows that how a yard looks has no bearing on Training, Care, Routine and facilities - i.e it's such a 'none' comment it's really not worth bothering with. As per my earlier post, the way a yard looks is completely irrelevent to these comments - how on earth anyone can tell from a car park is beyond me anyway, and in fact his Arena looks fab.
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and as for.....
just remember people are watching and once you have said something it cant be taken back !!

Was that at me......? I personally haven't attacked AG as a Rider & Trainer, just voicing my opinion about the situation (you reap what you sow etc) if i'm allowed to??? and I don't wish to take any of it back, that's the whole point of a forum.

Anyhoo, I genuinely appreciate you have an opinion too - especially in view that you have a relationship with said parties, but please also understand so do others when it comes to public figures jumping on the 'fame / press' bandwagon, notibly with the biggest manipulator of the Press, Miss KP (and no, I don't dislike like her)

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I know that and what i was trying to say is have an opinion i dont think i have said anything to anyone on this thread but it does annoy me when people just seem to make things up and be nasty maybe i just read her comments the wrong way but then i have read comments from her on a number of threads about AG that is what annoyed me !! its like someone saying that the sky is black without looking out the windows !!!

And no that comment was not addressed to you !!
 

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Actually I'm not sure I agree with that. I sent a youngster to a prof SJer for training and If I had turned up at his yard and it was scruffy, dirty and messy it wouldn't make a good impression and I would be thinking there is a lack of interest, care and sloppiness, no attention to detail and probably wouldn't leave my horse there.

If all was great and then on a visit I found a problem I wouldn't be so concerned cos by that time i'd know them so for me first impressions do count.


This is not in relation to AG's yard cos I have no knowledge of it at all, i'm just commenting on the appearance of yard pm's.
 

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How many pages for this?
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Out of interest do you think many professional people do read this forum. I'm not sure they do otherwise why not contribute. Some of the stuff on here is gossipy but an awful lot more is current affairs, training etc and no-one well known seems to contribute.

I know Laura Stockdale commented on the Corlato thread but thats very rare.

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I know a few that do actually !!!

not this forum but i know Carl Hester went on the BD one when he was slated by someone !!

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I think CH did come on here to defend himself over the "Earmuff Saga".
Point is,if you put yourself in the public eye and accept rewards for it(money,reputaion whatever) then expect your life to be commented on and slated if things are not 100% "right".
After reading this thread I went and watched the show on ITV catch up thingy.
Yep it was just the car park but it did look a mess,so fair comment.
A messy yard doesnt imply horse neglect or abuse by any stretch of the imagination-but it does look unproffesional.

Will being involved with KP harm AG's carrer?
Well,if he wins classes he wins classes and will have team GB's backing at international level,but I would think KP's distastefull behaviour will put a fair few owners off sending horses to him.
There are riders out there with a better compition record AND a totaly proffesional outlook that I would think would be an owners first choice.

love or hate KP,the woman knows how to work the media to her own ends.
AG will be dropped and slagged off just like everyone else once he is out of favor....
 

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LHS, my mums dressage horse is on a working farm, and tbh there's often bits of straw and Hayledge floating around, and god forbid a couple of messy corners filled with Machinery.
They are proffessional Dressage Riders, and have been to the Nationals on numberous occasions.
They have the horses in a routine, with quality forage, great & safe turnout etc..
Our horse is very happy, and even has a personalised routine and the facilities are fab, 2 x outdoor Arena's and an Indoor School - Her waiting list is testament to the establishment. And the fact our horse is happy says everything cos he hated being at home with our other 2.
There'll be good and bad whether a yard is perfect or not - what I was getting at is that a book shouldn't be judged by it's cover - i.e AG's yard comments were irrelevent
 

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Was dead pleased, until I got it home and looked inside — tackiest thing I've ever seen, sooooo distasteful, and the 'Riders'-esque shoot was an insult to Jilly Cooper if you ask me (best book ever).

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Very well said!
 

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Thats fine cos you know them and once I knew them those issues wouldn't bother me either but if I didn't know them and I turned up to view I wouldn't be impressed. Straw, haylege weeds whatever no worries but dirty feedbuckets, poorly maintained tatty stables, dangerous implements laying around to be trod on, yes that would be a problem.

The first time I went to see my youngster the stable was filthy, a piss soaked rubber mat with his hay strewn in the muck, we had to muck out before we could get in to say hello. My friend was saying right this is disgusting, we're getting the lorry and getting him outta here but I was more tolerant cos by then I knew the guy, and to his credit the horse was clean after that. Different standards I guess.
 

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Get your point LHS, and agree with it.
How awful for you to find your horse like that, i'd be livid to find that and would seriously question staying after seeing that.
My mum is very fussy, and has the whitest, thickest shavings beds at home and makes the Hayledge man take back and replace any blown bags. She wouldn't have the horse in livery at all if there were any doubts about his care - it's this yard or nothing.
Our not so tidy livery yard has deep clean beds, solid safe stables, clean buckets, quality forage and good fencing etc it's just not a manicured yard, but is safe and incredibly well run. They deliberately don't do DIY so that horses are all done on the same feed and turnout routine etc. Although our fusspot doesn't like to be out all day (starts to gallop about to the point of dangerous), so gets seperate turnout for a couple of hours twice a day - just not feasible at home as our lot are out all day. So from a standards point of view, it ticks all the boxes
 

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cant be bothered to read pages and pages of this tut, but god alot of people clearly never heard the phrase, "if you've got nothing nice to say...." !!

who gives a **** if AG swears on tele ? Zut alore indeed. wash his mouth out with soap.

Some people really are so precious and miss the entire point of a yard - to have healthy happy horses, not for it to be a poster for pretty yard of the year. Horse people can be so bloody snobby.

who cares what Kp does - do many people posting so strongly on here know her or indeed met her. no.

I'm an opinonated person, but god some of the posts on here are hilarious, so in depth and obviously people have spent a lot of time pondering the subject ! funny. if people challenged their energies into something important perhaps we could tackle a subject that actually matters ! maybe even rule the world
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yep i think the saying you are thinking of is.........if you havent got anything nice to say....... put it in print and sell it to the papers
 

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cant be bothered to read pages and pages of this tut, but god alot of people clearly never heard the phrase, "if you've got nothing nice to say...." !!

who gives a **** if AG swears on tele ? Zut alore indeed. wash his mouth out with soap.

Some people really are so precious and miss the entire point of a yard - to have healthy happy horses, not for it to be a poster for pretty yard of the year. Horse people can be so bloody snobby.

who cares what Kp does - do many people posting so strongly on here know her or indeed met her. no.

I'm an opinonated person, but god some of the posts on here are hilarious, so in depth and obviously people have spent a lot of time pondering the subject ! funny. if people challenged their energies into something important perhaps we could tackle a subject that actually matters ! maybe even rule the world
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Best post in the entire thread. IF not the whole forum
 

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Good on them all - that article was so tounge and cheek i cannot beleive some are taking it so seriously! I also agree you cannot comment on the yard without even seeing it that could have been a part out of sight to the public for all we know - who cares what it looks like! its not our yard!! people need to concentrate on their own lives - as someone previously said AG seems like he works hard for what he has and hasnt been given it all on a plate like some maybe like us normal people he wanted some easy money!! good on him! - I hope AG, PG and KP are all laughing straight to the bank - i know I would be!
 

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I did used to really dislike her... then she appeared to be an OK mum so i 'let her be'. However.... after returning from Rodney Powells i despise her. She actually thinks she is above everyone (including Rodney!) and treated everyone there very badly when she bought one of his horses. The press glam her up (or down) but when i hear something first hand i realise she does actually think she's "it". Which IMO she is not!
 

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I did used to really dislike her... then she appeared to be an OK mum so i 'let her be'. However.... after returning from Rodney Powells i despise her. She actually thinks she is above everyone (including Rodney!) and treated everyone there very badly when she bought one of his horses. The press glam her up (or down) but when i hear something first hand i realise she does actually think she's "it". Which IMO she is not!

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it's nice to hear what she is really like from someone who has met her and been in the same place as her, rather than just reading what they say in papers etc. did she actually buy a horse from Rodney powell then? maybe she wants to become an eventer too
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as well as a top dressage diva
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I have never in my life purchased a copy of OK magazine. Can you explain the criteria for being socially acceptable?

Does reading OK count?
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haha brilliant!

i've bought OK magazine in the past, so does that make me the 2nd lowest form of life in the world (just above KP)?

i don't regard her as socially unacceptable at all, fwiw.
now, there's a porn queen who lives near me (according to OH's workmates, who know who she is!), i'd regard her as being rather less socially acceptable than KP! and, lower than the porn queen, scuzzies such as those who nicked Scally's tack and apparently have a good little business going, nicking tack in 1 area of the country, travelling elsewhere to sell it, nicking loads there, travelling back here, etc etc. nice. or the ones who stole the gates off the field up north, so all the horses escaped (durr, fancy that) and 4 got killed on the road...
and let's not even think about rapists, paedos, etc etc.

people looking down on KP just confuse me - there are many thousands of people in this country who do deserve our absolute condemnation, but she's not 1 of them imho! what has she actually done that's so heinous, really?
anyway, i wish i had had the drive and determination to turn myself into a multi-millionairess able to buy myself amazing horses, the way KP has done.

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K I always read yr posts and wish I could have written them - v well put.
 

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As no one is perfect there are few who are in a position to judge another person when what they know of them is what they read. She has been canny enough to make a lot of money and so long as she does not winge on about the press which put helped in the money making process, all good. I dont know how anyone can say AG has done himself no favours appearing like in either OK or her reality show? If people are shallow enough to judge a person by one friend, then how sad is that. For everyone that has met her & thinks she is up herself there will be another who thinks different. Good luck to them all as someone has said there are far worst things a person can do in their lives then get their boobs out!!
 

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I did used to really dislike her... then she appeared to be an OK mum so i 'let her be'. However.... after returning from Rodney Powells i despise her. She actually thinks she is above everyone (including Rodney!) and treated everyone there very badly when she bought one of his horses. The press glam her up (or down) but when i hear something first hand i realise she does actually think she's "it". Which IMO she is not!

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Ha ha i thought we had THE END !! but obviously not !!

That is strange as she was really nice and down to earth when i met her at Andrews before she went to HOYS last year I guess like many people it depends on when and where you meet them !!
 

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I saw the pictures of Andrew, Polly and Katie Price and felt quite sad that Andrew and Polly are being taken down to her level. Lots of trainers have celebrity clients but you don't see them splashed across the gossip mags. I would imagine it will damage his career, not to mention making them look like KP's puppets and probably having the p taken out of them mercilessly. My initial thought was "oh Andrew, no!"

The newspaper articles were not his fault but this is a conscious decision on their part and I can only think they needed the money, or are a bit carried away by a taste of the limelight.

I see in today's H&H that John Terry's WAG wife will be doing a "dressage demo" at Olympia. Someone save us from these women please! If they really want to do something for dressage, why don't they put some money into buying some really great horses for our Team GB and para GB teams?
 

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I saw the pictures of Andrew, Polly and Katie Price and felt quite sad that Andrew and Polly are being taken down to her level.
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I see in today's H&H that John Terry's WAG wife will be doing a "dressage demo" at Olympia. Someone save us from these women please! If they really want to do something for dressage, why don't they put some money into buying some really great horses for our Team GB and para GB teams?

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"down to her level" - crikey, seriously, she really has not done anything heinous. I can't believe this attitude of looking down on her as if she's the lowest form of life. There are some truly disgusting people in this country who i'd quite happily see disposed of, but she's not 1 of them!

as for the second point... why should they? you could say the same of any of us! i'll probably never get to ride for my country (again!) so should i sell my horses and all my stuff because i'm not that brilliant, and give all the money to my NF?!
No, because I have horses and ride for my own enjoyment, and just maybe that's what these women are doing too. Good for them. Neither is a sponger, ffs!
 

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Sorry I don't know what you mean by NF or ffs? They don't have to sell their horses and all their stuff of course. However, they don't deserve to be at Olympia and HOYS just because they are celebrities, or married to celebrities. I watched one of KPs programmes where she went to compete and she did her test (pretty badly) then gave the horse to a groom and took off in her Range Rover with her entourage without so much as a backward glance. That is not really dedication is it. Some of us are up at 5 am, ride in the rain, wind, dark etc and spend our spare pennies on watching those that we admire and who deserve our admiration. They can enjoy their horses and have every right to do so. I just don't see why they can't work their way up the ranks like everyone else.

I also seem to recall that KPs "passion" for horses and dressage happened to coincide with her new horse books, clothing range, pink travel boots, etc etc.

I think she is actually an amazing businesswoman but I don't like people who try and buy their way into things. I have long thought that she would do herself a huge favour by going out to some competitions, appropriately dressed for the class, and earning people's respect. Then we may well pay to see her demos.
 
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