Any experience of low albumin in blood / conditioning feed recommendations / WWYD (no doubt will end up being long!)

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Very pleased he is home, I bet he is too.



Fingers crossed he keeps eating and improving. Is he on a special feed?



Hopefully you can get a decent night sleep too now!

Vet said its fine to keep on Releve and that they were firing all sorts of conditioning feeds in with releve.

He usually gets linseed and vet said that was perfect to add back and/or oil / oil based feeds
 

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So pleased to read your update TPO, crossing everything the progress continues.

This is the little guy who was sold to you in such bad conditionas a 2 year old, isn't he? Do the vets think this could be connected at all? I was thinking possibly early worm damage leaving a gut that can't tolerate bute very well?
 

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So pleased to read your update TPO, crossing everything the progress continues.

This is the little guy who was sold to you in such bad conditionas a 2 year old, isn't he? Do the vets think this could be connected at all? I was thinking possibly early worm damage leaving a gut that can't tolerate bute very well?

TBH I only briefly mentioned his start in life to them. Although that start is the reason for his dental issues. In all of this I forgot about them. They are ongoing and back to see the specialist in September ish time.

He's never returned a high worm count. In fact in April, when this all started, he returned his highest ever count of "low" rather than "none <50epg" on FEC but clear in salvia test. I decided to wait and recount in 8wks because with so much going on I didn't want to stress his system.

Now that he's home they'll all get another count because that's 9wks now.

He had thr ELISA test in May and no encysted red.

I don't think he had worms at the stud, or he certainly counted clear when he got to me. Worms was one of many first thoughts upon seeing him.
 

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He's looking great now, anyway!
I had a WeishxTB who had been in very poor condition as a 2 and 3 yr old, she had digestive issues all her life and we had to he careful with her diet but she she lived to be 24. That horse taught me *a lot* about listening to the horse.
 

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@TPO how's he been doing?

How are YOU doing too?

I don't know. He's still quite wired and googley eyed but I'm attributing that to the steroids?

He was 467kg at the vets on Tuesday. I weight taped him when he got home and it was 438/440kg. I know tapes aren't accurate but it was just to have a marker. Taped him Thursday and he was 426kg, so he's lost weight.

He's been having a couple of hours throughout the day alone in the grass paddock. Yesterday he got slight digital pulses in 3 feet after 1.5hrs.

He's back in bare paddocks with adlib hay. He'd rather pick at non-existent grass than eat hay so that's not helping either.

He's been on this grazing 5yrs and had avery slow introduction to it from winter field. Never had an issue before but, presumably because of gut issues, he's not tolerating it now.

It's far from ideal grazing but it's all I have. Currently growing a field of horse suitable grass but it's at least another 6-8wks for it to be through and useable.

I'm worried sick and stressed out of my tiny mind. Having horses is so much fun 😬

Thanks for asking after us.
 

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Oh dear, I'm sorry TPO. Did the vets give you any indication on whether the cause of his issues could have been relates to environmental factors?
 

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Oh dear, I'm sorry TPO. Did the vets give you any indication on whether the cause of his issues could have been relates to environmental factors?

Nope. I can't remember the big words, let alone spell them, but it's internal rather than external.
 

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Would he cope with/eat a trug of soaked hay replacer?

I haven't tried him on any since he stopped eating them/anything. Since then he's only eaten releve or recovery with linseed and grass chaff.

He wouldn't touch alfabeet and I've not checked to see if grass nuts are back in stock locally.

I've ordered Baileys outshine to add to his feeds gradually and was planning to introduce alfa a oil for more calories.
 

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He's still on steroids? They will be pushing his blood sugars and insulin sky high I suspect which is why you're getting pulses on the grass.

Is there anyone who can put buckets of hard feed in for you during the day? I've never had a horse reject sainfoin pellets from simply systems if you're looking at soaked fibre options.

I was really hoping you were going to get a break and he'd keep improving - not surprised you're stressed. I'm keeping everything crossed for you both xx
 

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He's at my parents so he's getting small feeds every 2-3hrs.

I put him on grass at 7.30 and he took himself off it before 8, mum was primed to bring him off it at 8.30. Hadn't really been eating and stood in bare paddock eating hay.

Mum said he's looking uncomfortable; throwing his head, flagging tail slightly and very on edge.

Phoned hospital and spoke to his vet. He's to come in with nothing for 4hrs then call her back. If he get worse or not happy with current condition call vet out straight away.

The issue with that is they aren't horse vet, see previous saga, so it'll be another referral. Which is fine and whatever he needs but it's the reliance on others to make that happe . Blinking idiot selling my transport.

Hospital vet wants a call back in 4hrs and if I get a vet out then the vets to call her.

I'm stuck at work but Mum is pulling him in. I've asked her to weight tape the fattest part of his stomach. The worry is he isn't emptying properly again so my thoughts were to measure stomach hourly to check its decreasing.

Obviously if he's still not looking right when he comes in I'll get vet straight out.

I feel sick 😔
 

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Sorry he’s not right, sounds like he’s in safe hands with mum at least. Worth calling vet now so it gives you a bit more of the day to sort transport etc if you end up needing it?
 
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Sorry he’s not right, sounds like he’s in safe hands with mum at least. Worth calling vet now so it gives you a bit more of the day to sort transport etc if you end up needing it?

Already tried. My usual transporter is busy and none of the others are answering (which is the norm for them. Still waiting for two calls back from last week). So if it comes to it I'll need to ask friends, which I hate doing, but regardless they're at work/busy so at best it'll be after 5 if needed.

He's just in so as long as he doesn't deteriorate will give him an hour to see if he improves and if he's worse will get vet/referral. He's not bad or would have vet ASAP, he just nqr.
 
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