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Could you please let Vinnie know this? He's his usual crabbit self again; he was sooky and cuddly when he was really ill initially but that's a distant memory now! Ha ha
Ah, but it is your dad who did the night walking.

Not saying it was all down to your dad at all! Just that Vinnie now is at one with him.
 

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He is, understandably, less keen to go out on all these walks as time goes on. SuperDad announced today that he "knows the secret how to get Vinnie to lead". I asked what it was and apparently he doesn't actually know but there must be one because V walked up and down the track 8x with no dramas and was marching out ??‍♀️?? so if anyone does know "the secret" please let me know! Vinnie isn't stupid.



I am a bit concerned about the 2wk deadline too for all the reasons mentioned above. The vet said 2wks and possibly 3 if hes made good progress. Mum said today its 2 Ignore her, your dad will. and that's it. I really don't think all of the swelling will be totally gone, the hole healed, whole leg healthy/scab free and he'll be ok to return to life as normal in 2wks.

My vet is very straight down the line and I think if he offers V an extra week it should be taken. I agree

It was looking like Vinnie was one of them but I'm hopeful that we've finally turned a corner...and I'm an eternal pessimist so ???

We are probably as stressed as you are about all this one step forwards nonsense, but I agree. You don't get this far and chuck it all in unless there's a serious retrograde step. If Vinnie is returning to his usual obnoxious and difficult self, he's mending mentally as well as physically.
 

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Just caught with your update from Friday onwards TPO. What a rollercoaster. For what it's worth my initial thought on seeing the latest photo was goodness what an improvement, though granted the pus is not a great development. Sometimes when you look at something several times every day and when you're tired and stressed and emotional it's hard to be objective and see the progress and not focus on the negative. Glad you now seem to have seen reason for a glimmer of hope. There's a long way to go before he's out of the woods of course but I'm still keeping my fingers firmly crossed for you all. No matter the outcome you and Superdad will know you've done everything humanly possible with his gruelling nursing care.
 

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The idea of taking measurements is a good one, makes it easier to be objective.
This is probably a silly question as obviously I’m no vet (and I’ve never had a case of cellulitis), but surely for the ones that don’t heal there must be a reason - eg lack of essential mineral, or wrong antibiotic or something- and can they not do blood tests to find out?
Anyway hope you and your dad are doing ok and hope the adverse weather improves to make life easier for you
 

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Measurements are a great idea when you are looking at the same thing over and over - good shout!

I was assuming 2 weeks was for a marked improvement, not for it to be totally healed. But it does sound like it's going the right way, particularly if V is returning to normal mentally. Your Dad is an absolute cracker though - love that he knows 'the secret' and Vinnie trusts him.

Hoping the better weather helps with the walking.
 

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I have a pair of Cavallo wraps size 4-6 never used happy to post to you if it will help with boot rubbing. I have used woofwear poultice boots to turnout, not very thick sole but just enough protection to stop being sore on rough ground. I have had a pair over heartbar shoes for turnout the past month to stop snow balling up and not worn through yet. Might be an idea if toes/heel bulbs are sore.

You and your Dad will physically and mentally exhausted with what you are going through.
 

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Blimey, I've only just seen this, its traumatic to read, I'm so sorry you are having to live through it. I think you and your Dad are being heroic, and it seems like your efforts are being rewarded, I do think from everything you are saying that things are looking more positive now, I hope Vinnie continues to improve, lots of healing vibes to all three of you.
 

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The idea of taking measurements is a good one, makes it easier to be objective.
This is probably a silly question as obviously I’m no vet (and I’ve never had a case of cellulitis), but surely for the ones that don’t heal there must be a reason - eg lack of essential mineral, or wrong antibiotic or something- and can they not do blood tests to find out?
Anyway hope you and your dad are doing ok and hope the adverse weather improves to make life easier for you

In the cases discussed the reasons were "thoroughbred skin". Vinnie is a TB and the specialist works for a racing yard.

I think (that I heard him say) it's because TB skin is so fine it bursts easier and is more damaged by the swelling.

Also just that the lymphatic system is damaged so the swelling never drains away.

I have a pair of Cavallo wraps size 4-6 never used happy to post to you if it will help with boot rubbing. I have used woofwear poultice boots to turnout, not very thick sole but just enough protection to stop being sore on rough ground. I have had a pair over heartbar shoes for turnout the past month to stop snow balling up and not worn through yet. Might be an idea if toes/heel bulbs are sore.

You and your Dad will physically and mentally exhausted with what you are going through.

Thank you, that is really very kind. I already have the wraps and for some reason they don't stay put on him. We had cracked it with mens "working" socks but they were too thick with his sores. He ended up wearing thinner cotton socks but they were too thin really.

He was back walking bare in the snow and now we have mud so hopefully a bit kinder on his hooves.

Might be expensive,I don't know, but could you take a sample of pus for the vet to send to lab and see what antibiotics are best for the infection he has there.

That was what was going to happen on Friday when they came to tap the tendon sheath. It wasnt 100% but it didnt look like the sheath was infected and to do the tap was too big a risk in case that introduced infection.

My vet said on friday, while we were running through a checklist of my stock, that he was happy with the prescribed medication. The cream appears to be helping a lot too; its steroid & antibacterial.

Thanks again for the replies and well wishes. If anyone is struggling to get their 10k a day steps in I know a big brown lump that would be happy (ish) to provide a reason.

Helps if I press "post reply" ??‍♀️ typed this yesterday and then clearly had a brain malfunction
 

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How are you doing today TPO?

Not great. Swelling was back up yesterday and today he is very uncomfortable on that leg.

Before you could see he was lame but more unlevel iykwim (obv still lame), today hes lame lame.

Swelling still up but leg is softer and easier to palpate. Not really any hotter.

Picked out the hoof and I cant see anything but it is hard to hold his hoof up for long.

I just dont know. He only had 3 walks today. I dont know what's for the best as obviously movement is the only thing that will get everything moving and draining but also hes probably the sorest hes been aside from the initial onset of it.

Phoning vet tomorrow morning and will see what he advises.

Just feeling a bit despondent tbh
 

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Not great. Swelling was back up yesterday and today he is very uncomfortable on that leg.

Before you could see he was lame but more unlevel iykwim (obv still lame), today hes lame lame.

Swelling still up but leg is softer and easier to palpate. Not really any hotter.

Picked out the hoof and I cant see anything but it is hard to hold his hoof up for long.

I just dont know. He only had 3 walks today. I dont know what's for the best as obviously movement is the only thing that will get everything moving and draining but also hes probably the sorest hes been aside from the initial onset of it.

Phoning vet tomorrow morning and will see what he advises.

Just feeling a bit despondent tbh

I can imagine that you’re feeling despondent. You must be exhausted!

Regardless of the outcome of the situation, you and your dad sound like the most dedicated, caring and kind horse owners. You’ve done amazing things just to get him to this point, really.

I hope things look better in the morning.
 

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You have all been through so much I am keeping everything crossed for you x

Was thinking if his soles are sore maybe some hoof amour would help it's really easy to apply.
 

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You're being put through the mill TPO, I'm sorry you didn't have better news yesterday. Hoping it's just a blip.
 
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