Kathy657
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The trouble is, if he covers her now you will end up with a foal born in October which isn't ideal.The intention is to breed yes but I really just wondered if the mare in this scenario would be hounded.
The trouble is, if he covers her now you will end up with a foal born in October which isn't ideal.The intention is to breed yes but I really just wondered if the mare in this scenario would be hounded.
The OP is obviously an idiot and indiscriminate breeding like this is stupid.OP, how bloody stupid IMHO :rolleyes3:
Not only risking damaging the mare by running her into the ground by the colt, you intend to try to produce a foal outside normal breeding cycles, hoping your mare has already taken, she will produce a foal in mid october - which will only 10 weeks later be classed as a yearling!!!
You totally beggar belief! :mad3:
Ok, at the risk of being flamed, ……... They have done the deed (I've even seen them at it, which is revolting to watch!!) but mostly …….. !
I knew she could run faster than him too! Well, someone on here mentioned that she might just run away and indeed she did. She panicked and legged it. ... Fast forward a few weeks and they are both a bit cut and bruised but nothing serious and they adore each other
Why Stallions ! why not mares?? Maybe both?? LOL as its better than contemplating you are serious! It never worked in the past> whats more how would your wonderful plan stop this situation?I really wish someone would do something about backyard breeders. The old stallion licensing didnt do enough, but surely if DEFRA or someone put a huge charge on people owning an entire male horse over the age of 3yr old it would stop bloody morons like this!
I'm not in any shape or form a "fluffy bunny" but this just disgusts me!
The OP is obviously an idiot and indiscriminate breeding like this is stupid.
Someone with less in the way of consideration for the feelings of others may enquire if you're an ageing spinster. I however, shall resist the temptation!
Would Natural Covering be considered by you to be 'natural'? It isn't revolting and it's the route by which you and I arrived in to this world, unless of course you arrived via 'Stork'!
Alec.
Neither parent seems to be bringing much to the gene pool. I despair, but wish your poor horses all the best, I suspect they will need it.
Poor sods! And that goes for the mare, the colt and the potential foal
Oh well thats alright then! She could run faster than him and all that happened is that she fled, got tired and gave up and they are only cut and bruised. When did it become ok to have your horses running in fear, and then only being cut and bruised?? I've worked on studs, nothing ended up cut and bruised!
I really wish someone would do something about backyard breeders. The old stallion licensing didnt do enough, but surely if DEFRA or someone put a huge charge on people owning an entire male horse over the age of 3yr old it would stop bloody morons like this!
I'm not in any shape or form a "fluffy bunny" but this just disgusts me!
Sadly, they are.My horses have never and will never be poor sods.
Op, you don't deserve a horse.
Sadly, they are.
OP, please separate the two, and fingers crossed the mare hasn't taken.
No one with an iota of knowledge plans a late autumn foal.
Um, the OP HAS intervened on nature by deliberately putting together a mare and colt in the off season. Am I pompous? No. Am I a realist? Yes.. Horses will breed at that time if left to their own devices for whatever reason and this poster is not intervening in nature to force it . Stop taking the moral high ground!
Totally inaccurate another pompous member of the breeding Stazi !!!!
Sorry if that sounds harsh but I feel a few of you are getting carried away ! Yes it can go wrong but not if you are prepared for it . Horses will breed at that time if left to their own devices for whatever reason and this poster is not intervening in nature to force it . Stop taking the moral high ground!
Um, the OP HAS intervened on nature by deliberately putting together a mare and colt in the off season. Am I pompous? No. Am I a realist? Yes.
There is plenty that can go wrong when breeding horses. Starting out by planning the foal's birth for the most favourable time of year for its best chances of survival and optimal growth are basic, IMHO.
This can and does happen all the time when new horses are introduced to each other. Vets get called out all the time to treat bites, cuts and all manner of injuries that result from horses being turned out with each other. When I say cuts and bruises, they're not lacerated and covered in blood. Horses get into scrapes all the time and if they needed a vet, they'd have one there in a heartbeat.
That is not entirely true though. With nature in control the mare will have been covered as the weather and forage quality improves, ie in Spring resulting in the foal to be born in early summer, the mare will then be covered again on a foaling heat therefore ensuring another foal being born into favourable conditions and with the best chance of survival. The OP has intervened with nature by allowing a colt to cover a mare in the autumn.
If the mare holds, and lets hope nature intervenes and she does not hold, the resultant foal will be born in poor weather and will need extensive care and skill to be raised. Lets hope the OP has the facilities and the knowledge to raise whatever is produced from the mating of two cobby ponies.
We should remember that flat bred TB foals are conceived early in the year to ensure a birthday as near to 1st January as possible. I was fortunate enough to visit a state of the art stud and it was fascinating. Even though nature is being tampered with in the TB breeding world, the resultant foals are born as the weather and grass is on the incline.
Good luck OP, you are going to need it.
In an ideal world yes. However I have a very good mare who has several successful offspring who will only conceive naturally in the late autumn . What do I do write her off!!!
The difference is you are breeding from, hopefully, a proven mare and top class stallions. I assume you have the facilities and knowledge to achieve success. I would imagine you are breeding something very special to make you want to do the abnormal and the past progeny have proven themselves worthy of breeding again,
The OP has mated a nondescript pony mare to a cob colt. The resultant foal will be a type that can be picked up for £40 at Beeston Market. The cost and efforts involved in rearing a foal born in October will be significant. Had the ponies been mated in May 2016 nature would provide all the foal would need.
The difference is you are breeding from, hopefully, a proven mare and top class stallions. I assume you have the facilities and knowledge to achieve success. I would imagine you are breeding something very special to make you want to do the abnormal and the past progeny have proven themselves worthy of breeding again,
The OP has mated a nondescript pony mare to a cob colt. The resultant foal will be a type that can be picked up for £40 at Beeston Market. The cost and efforts involved in rearing a foal born in October will be significant. Had the ponies been mated in May 2016 nature would provide all the foal would need.