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I know you would prefer me to say this than think it and not say it, but your side on picture suggests that the saddle needs a rear riser, M, unless the photo is misleading.

Send me Atlas if you don't want him, I think he's super!
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Thanks! I think it’s maybe misleading, I am ok with it for now for the very short amount of time my arse is in it. I did send a bunch of photos to a fitter to come to that conclusion though rather than decide it myself. She’s going to come out once he’s back in Colorado.
 

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You could try putting the saddle a bit further back and a little riser at the back to level out
the weight so its spread more evenly and not concentrated at the rear of the saddle, and so you can sit in the middle and be more effective and safer, perhaps better
Balanced if he has a spook, and so he can bring up his back easier when ridden

Don't they have fulmer loops over there to stabilise the bit

You re doing great

Hope you don't mind the comments

Not a finding fault at all, he does look tense in his throat lash like he's on alert
 

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You could try putting the saddle a bit further back and a little riser at the back to level out
the weight so its spread more evenly and not concentrated at the rear of the saddle, and so you can sit in the middle and be more effective and safer, perhaps better
Balanced if he has a spook, and so he can bring up his back easier when ridden

Don't they have fulmer loops over there to stabilise the bit

You re doing great

Hope you don't mind the comments

Not a finding fault at all, he does look tense in his throat lash like he's on alert

Thanks! All helpful and appreciated, I am pretty at peace with what I’m doing at the moment. I’m sure I’ll make another mistake soon though 🤣 He’s never had the fulmer loops nor does he seem to miss them, he’s only really in that bit as it’s what I had in the trailer.


He is looking tense because there’s a load of bullocks in a pen where there aren’t usually, which is why I got off to lead him up to them and let him see them for the first time close up. He’s only ever seen them in the pasture from a distance and that caused a lot of snorting so I wanted to be on the ground to give him clear confidence to see them up close.

He now loves cows.


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Don't they have fulmer loops over there to stabilise the bit


I always used long full cheek (fulmer) bits to back young horses and never used fulmer loops. They cause a single jointed bit to poke straight up into the horse's palate and are unnecessary on any mouthpiece.
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Never a dull day… happily having some cocktails in Co when I get a text from the barn that has me straight on the first flight back to Arizona the following morning and tracking down the truck repair people to get hold of my vehicle on a weekend.

Long story short Atlas had been exposed to something indirectly and it was a total toss up between the risk of him staying there and increasing his exposure (hardly ideal with a horse with a condition that really needs a strong immune system) or removing him before any possible spreading and also before long lock downs could start to happen if it did spread and he’s stuck there for months. And then of course the risk of a big trailer journey, where I can’t stop overnight in any kind of horse facility because of the exposure.

After chatting with my vets I went and got him and we trailered him straight, it took 16 hours including stops to rest him and I had him loose in a deep bedded trailer with no partition. It was horrible. He didn’t eat or really drink, I was so stressed as to what would come off the trailer but thankfully as soon as he got home he did both.

Then I wake up to this! The poor dude left Arizona which was 35 degrees during the day and gets snowed on in his first night back! Urgh. Anyway he seems perky today albeit not eaten a huge amount overnight but just tucked into a warm mash.

What a 36 hrs.. very grateful to Helo’s incredibly sensible owner who dropped him off late last night to time with his arrival a long with a load of quarantine gear for me/Atlas and a totally open mind. She was insistent I just go get him and that we’d make it work.

Now I’ll be watching him like a hawk and keeping my fingers very crossed for the next two weeks.

Hopefully I did the right thing, urgh. And thank goodness I have my own private set up so I could legally/morally do it with vet blessing.



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Never a dull day… happily having some cocktails in Co when I get a text from the barn that has me straight on the first flight back to Arizona the following morning and tracking down the truck repair people to get hold of my vehicle on a weekend.

Long story short Atlas had been exposed to something indirectly and it was a total toss up between the risk of him staying there and increasing his exposure (hardly ideal with a horse with a condition that really needs a strong immune system) or removing him before any possible spreading and also before long lock downs could start to happen if it did spread and he’s stuck there for months. And then of course the risk of a big trailer journey, where I can’t stop overnight in any kind of horse facility because of the exposure.

After chatting with my vets I went and got him and we trailered him straight, it took 16 hours including stops to rest him and I had him loose in a deep bedded trailer with no partition. It was horrible. He didn’t eat or really drink, I was so stressed as to what would come off the trailer but thankfully as soon as he got home he did both.

Then I wake up to this! The poor dude left Arizona which was 35 degrees during the day and gets snowed on in his first night back! Urgh. Anyway he seems perky today albeit not eaten a huge amount overnight but just tucked into a warm mash.

What a 36 hrs.. very grateful to Helo’s incredibly sensible owner who dropped him off late last night to time with his arrival a long with a load of quarantine gear for me/Atlas and a totally open mind. She was insistent I just go get him and that we’d make it work.

Now I’ll be watching him like a hawk and keeping my fingers very crossed for the next two weeks.

Hopefully I did the right thing, urgh. And thank goodness I have my own private set up so I could legally/morally do it with vet blessing.



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Sorry for the "love", it's my fat fingers. I've switched it to "care". That sounds extremely stressful. Does quarantine gear involve lots of chocolate for you?
 

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Thank you. Honestly it was horrible, and I’m still very worried about him he had a huge glob of mucus on his manure last night from a slow digestive track. Vet said try and rehydrate with mash for now rather than coming out to tube as the sedation slows it further. He hasn’t eaten much but he is perky.

You just can’t win can you, I could have left him there but then his chances of getting sick could have increased, plus potentially being locked down there for months and with the EPM…

But a 16 hr journey like that is just so hard on them, he was seriously fed up after 7, but stopping overnight just isn’t ethical when you know he’s come from a barn with a “thing”.

Hopefully I made the right call.
 

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Atlas likes to keep you busy doesn’t he. Hope all goes well and you can manage to relax one day 😊

Haha never! Pity the poor man that has to live through this drama with me. He met me and a few weeks later Atlas nearly dies and I’m a soggy mess. Then we are happily in Colorado for a bit and we have to fly back unexpectedly to then drive all the way back across three states. All the day before he starts a new job for the first time he’s worked in 3 years (not because he’s lazy- he sold his company!) and he’s only starting said new job because he cancelled his MBA at Oxford uni because we met 🤣

Oh and then there’s the intermittent crying because I’m going back to Colorado without Bog and I’m worried about Atlas and so on.

I’m a real catch with my baggage I’m sure 🙈

All with a massive smile on his face and not a single word of complaint, he’s a keeper.
 

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Glad you made it okay! I saw you were traveling him but didn’t expect the urgency of it! Fingers crossed he gets over his jet lag and is back to normal and whatever it was hasn’t had the chance to get to him.
 

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Phew, Atlas is happily eating grass and drinking and flicking his neck around.

That was a scary 24 hours. I really thought at a gas station in Alburquerque that I'd done the wrong thing and he was going to get off the trailer neuro/sick/god knows what.

Now just have to get through quarantine!
 

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Well he seems… fiery and fine 🤣

Ironically, Helo is not. He’s pacing like a lunatic even in the stall/run with an empty one between him and Atlas. I guess he feels it’s too seperate. He’s too old a boy to let him self soothe. So now I have a mini also from Helo’s owner who goes in the stall with him. I have a companion for my companion horse.

lol, you can’t make that up!. The mini has a story though he was rescued from a kill pen in Texas and has a huge abscess tumor thing on his face that isn’t operable but seems to enjoy life so is just getting whatever time he gets. Photos of them tomorrow!

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Horse owning is certainly giving you a hard time! What's the incubation period for what he might have been exposed to M?
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Horse owning is certainly giving you a hard time! What's the incubation period for what he might have been exposed to M?
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Part of the joy, right? :D Up to 14 days really, so it's a bit of a pain. I am in Mexico for a wedding towards the end of it so I'll probably extend it to more like 2.5 weeks so that it's over when I'm back, rather than any reintroductions being done by the grooms.

Helo has lost a lot of weight over winter despite his owners very best efforts, hard when he's in a herd full of bossy ponies. So I just want to be really careful that he doesn't get sick. But it is really, really unlikely given Atlas' exposure and so far so good at the Arizona barn for no one else being sick. Hopefully Helo will get his normal weight back with access to ad lib hay and green pastures here.
 
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Well he seems… fiery and fine 🤣

Ironically, Helo is not. He’s pacing like a lunatic even in the stall/run with an empty one between him and Atlas. I guess he feels it’s too seperate. He’s too old a boy to let him self soothe. So now I have a mini also from Helo’s owner who goes in the stall with him. I have a companion for my companion horse.

lol, you can’t make that up!. The mini has a story though he was rescued from a kill pen in Texas and has a huge abscess tumor thing on his face that isn’t operable but seems to enjoy life so is just getting whatever time he gets. Photos of them tomorrow!

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He looks fabulous - strong and confident as well as stunning! I hope quarantine is really straightforward for you both. Poor Helo though - hope he's finding it easier soon.
 

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He looks fabulous - strong and confident as well as stunning! I hope quarantine is really straightforward for you both. Poor Helo though - hope he's finding it easier soon.

Ah thank you! You wouldn't think he'd been so sick earlier this year, or just travelled across 3 states and starved himself for nearly a day and a half whilst doing it. He is quite an impressive little horse when he wants to be.

I know, it was such a surprise with Helo as never did I expect him to have an issue with a stable between them or in general, he's meant to be the old/sensible one! I'd have collected another companion for Atlas somehow but I think Helo will benefit from being back here long term, I have more grazing and Dr Green is really what will help him right now from a weight perspective.

He's happy as anything now he has his mini in with him, I'm watching him on camera at 5am whilst working :D
 

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Well he seems… fiery and fine 🤣

Ironically, Helo is not. He’s pacing like a lunatic even in the stall/run with an empty one between him and Atlas. I guess he feels it’s too seperate. He’s too old a boy to let him self soothe. So now I have a mini also from Helo’s owner who goes in the stall with him. I have a companion for my companion horse.

lol, you can’t make that up!. The mini has a story though he was rescued from a kill pen in Texas and has a huge abscess tumor thing on his face that isn’t operable but seems to enjoy life so is just getting whatever time he gets. Photos of them tomorrow!

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He looks great! And does the snow disappear as quickly as it appears?
 
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