Caerphilly: Woman, 83, dies after being injured in dog attack

druid said:
IYou seem to be ignoring the fact that I am specifically responding to an article posted in this thread about XL bully dogs. Threads develop and take side roads and tangents, you don't get to dictate who responds to what in whatever manner.
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I am not doing any such thing. The simple fact that you dock tails tells me all I need to know.
 
I’ve no problem with a meandering conversation I can’t keep up with my own brain quite often.
But docking a spaniel was to me quite removed from cropping a dog’s ears for intimidation purposes. But I’ll always follow after a conversation, but may not keep up.
 
Sandstone1 said:
I am not doing any such thing. The simple fact that you dock tails tells me all I need to know.
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Err, it's told me a lot about Druid: He/She docks with pain admin in place. That is so good to know.

I have had 4 terriers with docked tails, 3 from rescue centres. My present terrier has one (with a cert). He loves nothing better than killing a rat (is that working?) but his prime job is as a pet.

None of this has anything to do with an old lady being killed.
 
I wonder what the next breed to fall into the hands of the idiots who own these dogs to look hard will be? It all seems to be fashion with perfectly nice breeds ending up with an awful reputation when you look back at GSDs and Rotties etc. I'm seeing a rise in livestock guardians in not entirely suitably homes. I was less than enthusiastic about a recent encounter with a Thai Ridgeback also. That's the problem with BSL, there will always be another option for these idiots to ruin
 
druid said:
I wonder what the next breed to fall into the hands of the idiots who own these dogs to look hard will be?
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The future is in mastiffs if you ask me: Cane Corsos are everywhere, there's been a steady rise in Boerboel blood, and breeds I used to rarely see online are popping up for sale much more often. I can't see any LGDs making it big except the Kangal, and maybe the Malakli. You just can't look hard walking a Maremma.

What I've always wondered is why Rhodesian Ridgebacks didn't make it. They've got the natural suspicion of strangers, the right look about them, and the "they can fend off lions" advertising would surely be a big hit. And yet every RR I've met has been lovely - well-socialised, well-trained and well-exercised.
 
stangs said:
The future is in mastiffs if you ask me: Cane Corsos are everywhere, there's been a steady rise in Boerboel blood, and breeds I used to rarely see online are popping up for sale much more often. I can't see any LGDs making it big except the Kangal, and maybe the Malakli. You just can't look hard walking a Maremma.

What I've always wondered is why Rhodesian Ridgebacks didn't make it. They've got the suspicion of strangers, the right look about them, and the "they can fend off lions" advertising would surely be a big hit. And yet every RR I've met has been lovely - well-socialised, well-trained and well-exercised.
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You haven't walked round here then! 2 RR's often walked (and I use that term loosely) one of which has to wear a muzzle and be on lead only, due to court order.
The other, with a very untrained owner is heading for the same, it's a bloody menace around cycles, others walking and dangerous nr horses. If I happen to see it when I've been riding, I get my phone out immediately.
 
Oh, that's sad. My neighbor friend has 2 Ovcharka's and they're lovely. Perhaps not the norm, but lovely dogs. Ones a little suspicious of people due to a questionable upbringing as a young puppy (not by friend), but she's still not aggressive, she just keeps her distance and takes a bit of time. Sort of cat like in some of her behaviors, really.

Both my Lab and CC puppy play with the Ovcharka's. There's also a Malinois in the mix and they all play as well as cuddle/sleep/nap together. Interestingly they're all females. There is a male that comes over from time to time, and things go well with him too. I think our little group isn't the norm though! But does show that these dogs can be well socialized and nice creatures. It helps when you have land, exercise them, and actually train them! Not breeds I'd generally recommend though!

IMO Ovcharka's need a certain type of person, living, and training. Friend who owns them is also concerned that they'll become popular or trendy, because that'll be a disaster.
 
A friend of my mums has always had RR used to breed a litter every few years, very picky about homes (lots went a road as pups and she flew with then to deliver them), lovely dogs with very sound temperaments.
My understanding is they were not to fend of lions but to track and voice when they found them so the hubters could follow.
 
stangs said:
What I've always wondered is why Rhodesian Ridgebacks didn't make it. They've got the natural suspicion of strangers, the right look about them, and the "they can fend off lions" advertising would surely be a big hit. And yet every RR I've met has been lovely - well-socialised, well-trained and well-exercised.
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Next door keep RR and I would not trust them an inch. Only this morning I mentioned them to the vet and my fear of walking my dogs along the lane because of them. He told me of two more dogs that he has stitched up that had been attacked by them, I knew about 4 others.

These dogs have been socialised and done well in the show ring. The postie will not get out of his van if they are not shut in the kennels. They have completely put me off the breed.
 
There are at least 3 RRs round here and all of them lovely dogs. One in particular is a family pet with 2 boys who were born after the couple got the dog. He is so well mannered and great with kids, small dogs, people he knows or doesn't know. Not in your face but very friendly. The other two are nice dogs also friendly and good with other dogs/people.

However I'm not keen on the two local "wolf dogs". Beautiful creatures but now they are adults they are always walked on lead and one still managed to lunge and get a bite on a quiet older golden retriever who was walking past. The retriever was out of reach - the wolf dog had to lunge to get him. Both were quite nice as young dogs but as they have passed one year old they have become unpleasant and look as if they take a lot of holding on the lead. One of them I never see anymore and the one that bit the retriever is usually walked on lead on pavements now rather than on the common. Both owned by middle aged "tough" looking men. Not sure why anyone would want one and they haven't looked happy or relaxed for a year or more. I would not like to meet one off lead.
 
Saw a couple of RRs in the woods the other day. The owner seemed in a big hurry to go the other way to me and I wasn’t keen anyway, given how intimidated my youngsters seem with bigger dogs. I haven’t really met any so hope we don’t see them again. All these stories of other dogs causing injuries to people’s dogs frankly terries me.
 
I met 2 RR s today on the pavement both on lead with a young couple but very aggressive to mine and the women was having trouble holding hers and at one point I thought it was going to drag her over to me even though I had walked in the road to give them plenty of space. They obviously knew their dogs were a problem as they stopped as soon as they got closer to me, but it would have been better to have kept walking IMO, if I see them again I will cross right over to the other side of the road, I couldn’t cross safely today
 
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