Chances of a good home ?

I'm really surprised that 16.3 is considered much bigger than the average race horse, but I have never worked in the industry so will take your word for that.

All the "serious" horsey people that have seen my daughter's 16.2 ex racer have called her a nice "little" mare but she doesn't feel that way to me, because I am nervous of her. To me, she's like a tank on energy drinks, and she sounds a lot more quirky and high maintainence than this boy too. Please give him a chance at least.
 
How many big, old tb's really end up in a loving forever home ?

Lots!!


Your saying you don't want to just pass the 'problem' on, I wouldn't even say it was a problem. Probles are horses who are agressive, rear, bolt on roads etc.
I took on a horse who did have 'problems' such as not being able to go in the stable or get your head kicked in, smashed through fences, wouldn't let a vet/farrier/saddle fitter anywhere near, trappled on people etc.

What your discribing is notproblems it's little quirks that I am sure at least 1 horse on every yard has.

It really sadens me that you actually don't care what happens to him, poor horse
 
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Bonny I think you are being very sensible. The ONLY way that we can assure a horse's future is to have it PTS, no other option is 100% safeguarded. I would suggest you stick him on Project Horses for a month and if he doesn't sell then you can say you have tried and send him off to Potters or similar. It is an incredibly un-British thing to do, and I know that my opinion on these things appalls people on here, but if his future is important to you (or the wellbeing of a possible new owner) then PTS is the right option.
 
Thank you Weezy, it's a hard decision to make but I think you are right and looking back over the years I've sold tb's it's what I should have done in the past. Alot of people are not being realisitic about what does happen to these horses and I would include myself in that but this time I want to do the right thing and I think that is to have him pts.
 
At the end of the day only YOU can make the decision about what to do with YOUR horse. There are plenty of people on here who admire those who take the hard decisions, believe me, they just don't come out and get counted as they are always shot down, but there are always more who think that it is abhorrent to put a horse down...your horse, your decision, your conscience, not anyone else's :)

Best of luck with it all, just remember that you know best and when push comes to shove you might not be able to do it, but there is no shame in that either!
 
That's what happens to them all sooner or later, the world isn't full of fields of happy retired tb's in loving homes. How many horses have you known who just died of old age ?
 
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Bonny I think you are being very sensible. The ONLY way that we can assure a horse's future is to have it PTS, no other option is 100% safeguarded. I would suggest you stick him on Project Horses for a month and if he doesn't sell then you can say you have tried and send him off to Potters or similar. It is an incredibly un-British thing to do, and I know that my opinion on these things appalls people on here, but if his future is important to you (or the wellbeing of a possible new owner) then PTS is the right option.
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i agree 100%

very sad situation but its the only way to safeguard a horses future.

sorry to say but tb's are common and can pick them up for next to nothing with minimal vices - so one like this with 'issues' isnt going to be one homed easily (especially that with his size too).
 
I think bonny is only Reading the replies they want to read. Martlin has offered to take this poor horse off your hands and I hope this does happen for the sake of the horse. I cannot comprehend someone caring so little about what happens to a horse they own and putting down a horse that is sound and has no major behavioural problems. So what if you don't like the horse ... Plenty of otherswould have him and be glad to give him field space. It appear martlin is one of those people.
 
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Bonny I think you are being very sensible. The ONLY way that we can assure a horse's future is to have it PTS, no other option is 100% safeguarded. I would suggest you stick him on Project Horses for a month and if he doesn't sell then you can say you have tried and send him off to Potters or similar. It is an incredibly un-British thing to do, and I know that my opinion on these things appalls people on here, but if his future is important to you (or the wellbeing of a possible new owner) then PTS is the right option.
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Im not appalled, I realise that sometimes that is the only right answer. I was just confused because bonny originally said she would like to try and find him a home, and she had knowledeable people offering to give him a chance, perhaps I read it wrong.
 
This is ridiculous and frustrating, why are people still advocating being pts when Martlin has offered to take him and give him a home for life? Bonny, she is even offering you money for him. Why would you prefer to pts rather than sell him to a home for life. Especially as you originally said she was willing to give him away to an experienced home, now she has one, as serious one and £50 into the bargain. Makes no sense to me. Please give this horse a chance!!!
 
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I don't think that was a serious offer ! I don't know her or her me or the horse. I'm not looking for anyone to take the horse as they feel sorry for him ! He's not a poor horse, he's fine, anyone looking for a horse to rescue should try a charity, lots of horses need a good home.
 
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That's what happens to them all sooner or later, the world isn't full of fields of happy retired tb's in loving homes. How many horses have you known who just died of old age ?
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Most of the horses I have known have been pts, but at an advanced age and because of ill health or an accident, having lived the latter part of their lives in loving homes . Not because someone decided they were too big or unloveable at a relatively young age.

Martlin isn't 'looking' for a horse to rescue, she has made you an offer because she would prefer to give the horse a chance. Why are you so determined to pts now when initially you said you wanted to give him away? Vet the home, as you would if you had advertised him free to good home and if you think she is on the level and experienced enough then do the deal. Surely you have nothing to lose.
 
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Why not find out first if it was serious? Then if it was, maybe see if you could meet them, go to their place, watch them ride, whatever you need to do, and if it turns out it was all bluff at least you gave it a try.

I personally am not having a go, I can understand your logic in not wanting him to end up in a bad place but I really feel you're jumping the gun here.At my daughter's yard there are ex racers much worse behaved than you describe, they go out and do stuff and have nice lives, no one is planning to dump them anywhere, they seem pretty happy to me.

Ultimately it is your choice to make and live with, and I wouldn't judge you either way, but if it were me I would at least give it a try.
 
I'm not looking for a rescue, neither am I looking for a quick buck. I offered to take him of your hands as I thought that is what you want and I have the space/can afford to keep one more.
You described the horse as healthy, just difficult - that has never been a problem for me.
What else do I need to know? It's 16.3 TB, 12 yo, gelding, it's stroppy and it needs a home.
I thought you wanted to find an alternative to euthanasia for him, but apparently that's not the case - fair enough.
I have a yardfull of horses, some of them are ''special'' - they tend to stay forever with me, the less challenging I tend to produce and sell to suitable homes, I can actually be arsed...
 
Weezy, surely by that logic no one would ever sell any horse?

OP, if you want to shoot it, fine, it's your horse - I think you made your mind up ages ago anyway. I don't think it's your only option by a long way but it's your choice.
 
Sorry Martlin, the rescue comment wasn't meant for you, I was just fed up with people calling him a poor horse when he's not.
 
A lot of people would love him. Take me for example. My TB (the bay in my sig) is a 17.2 ex racehorse.

I'm not hugely competitive anymore, but I still wanted something that I wouldn't get bored riding and my boy suits me down to the ground. He's not a novice ride, but I wouldn't want a horse that was. It's been incredibly rewarding seeing his muscle development and his character change as I've worked with him and built him up, and he'll stay with me forever now. I think there are lots of people like me who would love a horse like the one you have.
 
^ As the mother of an owner of a difficult horse, I would at least meet Martlin, she comes across well. What have you got to lose?
 
Sounds like my ideal horse.

Which is why I have to wonder if he's even real. I mean, cry cry cry, I need to have a healthy horse PTS, get offers of homes for him, oh no, I really must shoot him..

Weezy - I agree with everything you say, but in this instance something stinks about the OP, and unless she's waiting for Martlin to get worried and start offering more money so she can make a quick buck, I'm not sure said horse is even real.

The end.
 
What ?? when I have ever said that ? I don't feel I need to justify anything I've said but get real, I've never been looking for the sympathy vote either for myself or for the horse and I certainly am not interested in money for him. Where do you get these ideas from ?
Say what you like but at least make sense .....I was asking about the ethical question of what to do with a horse like this nothing else.
 
Ethical answer:
Make sure he is in good health (which I am not saying he isn't) be honest about his issues and if you come across someone who can deal with him at least keep an open mind about it.
 
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Arsed to do what exactly ?
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To advertise him, ask around if someone wants him, send him to the sales, anything to give him a loving home!!!!!!! Surely thats what you want after all?!!! :confused:

But no, its more like 'i have a perfectly healthy horse that many people would love to own, but i can't be bothered to do anything about selling him so i'll just shoot him instead' thats the general message your sending here.

And he is a poor horse as you're considering killing him just because you cant be bothered to do something about it!!!!!!!! :mad:
 
Just give the thing to Martlin and leave it be. If you have been around them that long and know your arse from your elbow and everywhere else, why didn't you just have him shot and say nothing? Why do you need permission from us - or an argument against doing it.

The answer is that yes, somebody could manage him and give him a home. Conversely, to get him off your conscience, you are perfectly entitled to have him shot.

Your call, just get on with it, please.
 
I think OP is having a really hard time on this thread. There are quite a few things I would agree with her (him?) on:

- putting a horse to sleep is not bad for the horse, nor does it comromise its welfare. Horses do not dread death nor have regrets about it. A horse whose future is not guarranteed, may well be better off dead.

- a large, quirky horse without any particular talent may well be difficult to re-home, especially in this market. I appreciate a lot of people put up with a lot from their horses, but this is quite different from setting out to buy another difficult horse. If this wasn't true we wouldn't have at least one post a week from someone who wants to return a difficult horse they have bought. In any case, the fact that these great homes exist is quite different from the OP's chances of finding one for her horse - as has been said a million times on this forum, however hard you try as a seller, things can go wrong.

- giving the horse to someone who replied to a thread may not be the most sensible thing to do. I don't mean to disparage anyone who has offered a home, or question their intentions, but I would not give away a horse unseen to someone I had never met. At least one person who has offered a home has also posted claiming to be a total beginner, so clearly a bad horse/rider match here!
 
quote 'giving the horse to someone who replied to a thread may not be the most sensible thing to do. I don't mean to disparage anyone who has offered a home, or question their intentions, but I would not give away a horse unseen to someone I had never met. At least one person who has offered a home has also posted claiming to be a total beginner, so clearly a bad horse/rider match here!
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fair enough but surely she could vet the home in the same way as she would if it was someone answering an ad in an equine mag. Obviously not someone who was a complete novice.
 
This is an odd post as other than being big and a bit awkward there doesn't sound like there is anything wrong with the horse. Is he dangerous, does he kick, rear, bolt? If not and you just want rid of him, why not offer him to the local hunt. He may thrive on hunting and proper hard work and handling and if not they have the facility to PTS with minimum fuss.

I'd far rather see dangeour or unwell horses PTS than passed on but a fit, healthy horse I believe should be given a chance.
 
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