Cheeky/ridiculous posts you see on Facebook.

[ycbm]

I did realise that, but she seems to think that she can get around it by approaching it from the position that the other people are 'sharers'. Someone in the village rang the council about it but they weren't interested when they found out she only has 4 horses (I don't know how the person phrased it to the council, or who they spoke to). It's just made me wonder with all the posts about at the moment with people trying to get paid sharers for multiple horses how many of them are pushing the legal boundaries too far.

I've seen a few cases recently where the amount being asked for is far more than the horse can cost to keep, so if the owner is making a regular profit then surely it is a business of sorts? Particularly when they have several sharers for one horse, all of whom are paying.

I know horses are an expensive hobby, but there seems to be more and more people who expect to be able to get someone else to fund their hobby. 5-10 years ago it seemed as though owners more felt that the sharer was helping them out, whereas nowadays a lot of them seem to think that they are doing the sharer a favour, and should be paid handsomely for it.

They should try reporting them for tax evasion on their income instead, if will probably get a lot more interest from HMRC than the overstretched Council.

The RSPCA wasn't able to prosecute over the horse someone starved after I sold him to her. When I discovered the riding school she was running was declared as not operating on the tax records, I reported that instead and the business closed soon after, not before time as she had a string of complaints about the place and what she was doing.
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[maya2008]

Latest ad I have seen - rideable age, small horse size wanted, safe, with no issues. £700 budget.

I checked the group to see if they had mis-typed and left a 0 off but no, one of the ‘under £x’ groups.

 

[Goldie's mum]

Once you start noticing there are quite a few people at the moment who's budget doesn't stretch to full stops.
Another today. (This is the whole ad. - I didn't edit, except the location.)

Looking for a new best friend TB ISH type around the [...] area for the right riding horse in the new year possibly full loan possibly view to no bigger than 17.2hh no older than 8 budget under 2k must be open to vetting

 

[seriously festive equine]

I'm crying that poor boy ..so overweight!

 

[Annagain]

Once you start noticing there are quite a few people at the moment who's budget doesn't stretch to full stops.
Another today. (This is the whole ad. - I didn't edit, except the location.)

Looking for a new best friend TB ISH type around the [...] area for the right riding horse in the new year possibly full loan possibly view to no bigger than 17.2hh no older than 8 budget under 2k must be open to vetting

The lack of punctuation isn't the only thing wrong with that advert! A sound, young horse for under £2k? Could they find me a 5 bed Victorian farm house with 8 acres, 5 stables, an indoor arena and access to miles of off road hacking for £100k while they'e at it?

 

[teapot]

Novice rider looking for a share with no financial contributions.. naturally weekends only

Tbf least they’re honest? For some people the Monday to Friday working week just isn’t conducive to horses - doesn’t mean they shouldn’t immediately be discounted because of it.

Yes horses are 24/7 but someone only wanting weekends may well work for someone else who does shift work.

 

[Roxylola]

@teapot what are they actually bringing though. Novice rider so quite a fair chance they've got even less clue on jobs, they don't want to pay...
As someone who works Sundays I'll pay livery before I'll let a random clueless stranger ride and look after my horse for free!

 

[teapot]

@teapot what are they actually bringing though. Novice rider so quite a fair chance they've got even less clue on jobs, they don't want to pay...
As someone who works Sundays I'll pay livery before I'll let a random clueless stranger ride and look after my horse for free!

Depends on how you define novice for a start. I get your point entirely but I still think saying ‘weekends only’ is honest.

I can think of a few people I know who would be described as ‘novice’ on here, but actually are perfectly capable of handling a sensible, mannerly horse (a dying breed…) riding on their own, and doing jobs to an acceptable standard.

As for the financial side - I think that’s a murky area where many many get taken for a ride costs wise.

 

[Roxylola]

And that's fair, there are a lot of people I'd call novice but most of them think they're at least intermediate. The fact they say they're a novice makes me think they're a long way from that standard. Either way, I think for shares it's a bit of a question of what you need most vs what will you compromise on but the loaner needs to be bringing something to that table.
You might need jobs doing and the horse working, in which case I'd accept no payment for a reliable decently capable person. Or you need money and accept that you deal with less reliable or capable people as a result.

 

[Goldie's mum]

We should buy these & divvi them up between us! I make that £375 each...

16 horses as one load. Must be collected and moved as no transport. Will need to load them too. Foals, mares in foals, gelding, youngsters. From 12.2hh - 16.2hh.
X4 filly foals all make 14.2hh plus, appaloosa x show jumper, x3 Welsh pb. X3 colts, one Welsh D heavy, one cob x and one Welsh C. Heavy cob gelding build like a tank, 15.2hh. Ridden in past. Tb mare run with stallion, has been ridden. X2 Welsh x tb mares run with stallion, one has been ridden. X1 PRE mare run with stallion. Welsh C mare run with stallion, has been ridden. Welsh D mare run with stallion, has been ridden. Cob x ID mare red dun, run with stallion. Welsh A yearling filly.

Not splitting. Various ages and height. Price is for lot. No offers! No hidden numbers. No time wasters.

Price: £6,000 no offers

 

[shortstuff99]

Is this from that stud that has been visited from RSPCA?

 

[Goldie's mum]

Is this from that stud that has been visited from RSPCA?

Sorry, no idea. It said Newcastle area.

Edited- Sorry, I'm wrong- small village in Wales with "Newcastle" as part of the address.

 

[ycbm]

We should buy these & divvi them up between us! I make that £375 each...

16 horses as one load. Must be collected and moved as no transport. Will need to load them too. Foals, mares in foals, gelding, youngsters. From 12.2hh - 16.2hh.
X4 filly foals all make 14.2hh plus, appaloosa x show jumper, x3 Welsh pb. X3 colts, one Welsh D heavy, one cob x and one Welsh C. Heavy cob gelding build like a tank, 15.2hh. Ridden in past. Tb mare run with stallion, has been ridden. X2 Welsh x tb mares run with stallion, one has been ridden. X1 PRE mare run with stallion. Welsh C mare run with stallion, has been ridden. Welsh D mare run with stallion, has been ridden. Cob x ID mare red dun, run with stallion. Welsh A yearling filly.

Not splitting. Various ages and height. Price is for lot. No offers! No hidden numbers. No time wasters.

Price: £6,000 no offers

"I took responsibility for 16 animals and now I'm turning my back on them. I don't care who takes them or where, or what dreadful future they might face, I won't even help you catch them, I just want rid".

I hope there's a damn good excuse for that one.
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[Ambers Echo]

I'm sure it has been said before, but I keep seeing ads with '8-12, SJ 90-100, grassroots event, no stoppers, no quirks, hack, be safe, pass vetting and xrays' adding ' no need to be a world beater' to justify a mid 4s price range. I mean who DOES want a world beater? Don't they realise they are describing the most popular age and type of horse?

 

[Goldie's mum]

"I took responsibility for 16 animals and now I'm turning my back on them. I don't care who takes them or where, or what dreadful future they might face, I won't even help you catch them, I just want rid".

I hope there's a damn good excuse for that one.
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So, I have a 'Google the phone number' habit.
Same person is selling the stallion separately (Horsemart):-

The one and only worldwide.
[...] is the only Welsh Cob Dun stallion worldwide. Often the Buckskin are still called 'Duns' but this stallion is the only true dun Welsh cob stallion. He has produced many amazing partbred and full Welsh, alot are very keen jumpers.
He himself likes things simple, he enjoys being out and social, loves a bum scratch, good to lead, load and deal with, can be unkeen to have headcollar on. Hes not nasty at all, never bitten or kicked.
No lumps or bumps, no reason he couldn't be backed and show.
[...] has only covered naturally, he is not nasty or still while covering and still easy to get hold of and remove if needed. I couldn't see him being a problem covering inland.
There is a want for him to be dummy trained, with many breeders for Australia, France, Spain and varies other places, wanting to use him to open up the true Dun gene in Welsh horses.
Despite the endless amounts saying he won't give the dun gene off, he has done with many beautiful Red duns, Bay duns, Black duns and even a Dunalino.
If you cannot understand how special this horse is, he isn't for you.

 

[greasedweasel]

"I took responsibility for 16 animals and now I'm turning my back on them. I don't care who takes them or where, or what dreadful future they might face, I won't even help you catch them, I just want rid".

I hope there's a damn good excuse for that one.
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It’s obviously not a good situation but if it’s getting close to a welfare situation I’d rather they did try and sell rather than left them just to starve. Though at that money it’s likely to be low end dealer or possibly straight to slaughter I’d guess?

 

[shortstuff99]

So, I have a 'Google the phone number' habit.
Same person is selling the stallion separately:-

The one and only worldwide.
[...] is the only Welsh Cob Dun stallion worldwide. Often the Buckskin are still called 'Duns' but this stallion is the only true dun Welsh cob stallion. He has produced many amazing partbred and full Welsh, alot are very keen jumpers.
He himself likes things simple, he enjoys being out and social, loves a bum scratch, good to lead, load and deal with, can be unkeen to have headcollar on. Hes not nasty at all, never bitten or kicked.
No lumps or bumps, no reason he couldn't be backed and show.
[...] has only covered naturally, he is not nasty or still while covering and still easy to get hold of and remove if needed. I couldn't see him being a problem covering inland.
There is a want for him to be dummy trained, with many breeders for Australia, France, Spain and varies other places, wanting to use him to open up the true Dun gene in Welsh horses.
Despite the endless amounts saying he won't give the dun gene off, he has done with many beautiful Red duns, Bay duns, Black duns and even a Dunalino.
If you cannot understand how special this horse is, he isn't for you.

Ah yes this is the stud being shut down and not in a good state.

 

[Goldie's mum]

Is this from that stud that has been visited from RSPCA?

OK, yes, looks like it. Stud is in the same village and a person of same first name. Charges relate to 17 equines. Court case ongoing (adjourned until February) so she needs rid by then.

ETA the buildings and land have been for sale since Oct 2022. House and 15 very bare acres.

 

[[135546]]

owner said on stud fb (now defunct) they had a brain tumour. No idea if any truth in it

 

[GrassChop]

I wonder if the original OP of this thread knows how long it's been going for. They haven't logged in since 2015.

 

[Goldie's mum]

It’s obviously not a good situation but if it’s getting close to a welfare situation I’d rather they did try and sell rather than left them just to starve. Though at that money it’s likely to be low end dealer or possibly straight to slaughter I’d guess?

OK, so not much going on round here today - too stormy!
According to FB posts, which we all know are 100% reliable , this lady has form for taking deposits for horses that don't exist or belong to other people & the 17 that are subject of the upcoming court case are already safe in the hands of the RSPCA.

 

[Peglo]

@GoldenGlitterMum I love your sleuthing. Nothing gets past you

 

[greasedweasel]

Mine has been pretty week and has involved me repeatedly muttering at the computer “that’s not dun”

 

[nagblagger]

@GoldenGlitterMum I love your sleuthing. Nothing gets past you

I might hire you to find OMO, Mildreds the mules friend...

 

[toppedoff]

Have a good home available for something that needs a home ASAP. Maybe an ex racer or one that someone can't look after or one that can be rescued from being put down

Anyone else find those sorts of posts odd? Or brush off weirdly? I just feel it's someone wanting to have a story or be a saviour.. Guess nothing wrong with that I'm bothered by everything lately though

 

[shortstuff99]

Have a good home available for something that needs a home ASAP. Maybe an ex racer or one that someone can't look after or one that can be rescued from being put down

Anyone else find those sorts of posts odd? Or brush off weirdly? I just feel it's someone wanting to have a story or be a saviour.. Guess nothing wrong with that I'm bothered by everything lately though

Normally a dodgy dealer trying to masquerade as a private home to get horses for free.....

 

[nagblagger]

Have a good home available for something that needs a home ASAP. Maybe an ex racer or one that someone can't look after or one that can be rescued from being put down

Anyone else find those sorts of posts odd? Or brush off weirdly? I just feel it's someone wanting to have a story or be a saviour.. Guess nothing wrong with that I'm bothered by everything lately though

I did do similar 'in my youth' and I never had to advertise! Hence so many field ornaments now.

 

[Ambers Echo]

ISH advertised and the ridden pics are of him over-bent in draw-reins. Plus a few of him flat out, asleep in a field. I mean seriously…. Is her mum forcing her to sell and she’s deliberately putting buyers off?

 

[Goldie's mum]

"Looking for ridding cob/horse between 14h up got to be broken Pm "

Steady on now, don't want to waffle on too much...

 

[Titchy Pony]

ISH advertised and the ridden pics are of him over-bent in draw-reins. Plus a few of him flat out, asleep in a field. I mean seriously…. Is her mum forcing her to sell and she’s deliberately putting buyers off?

Euh... I may have tried the put buyers off many moons ago... Didn't work, pony was good enough to shine through anyway.