Covid/ isolation/ Livery

[Sossigpoker]

IT IS NOT A COLD

JESUS!

The omicron variant presents as a cold. Symptoms to loo out for are sore throat, runny nose , headache. I.e a cold.

 

[AmyMay]

I had a cold. Like I have had at least once every winter for the past few decades.
You do realise that this "dreaded " "omicron " variant presents as a cold ?
Are we going to be scared of colds forever? Where do we draw the line ?

No one is scared of a cold. People are rightly concerned about COVID. Once you grasp that feel free to join the grown ups in the conversation ?

 

[AmyMay]

The omicron variant presents as a cold. Symptoms to loo out for are sore throat, runny nose , headache. I.e a cold.

Whispers, it’s not a cold.

 

[Sossigpoker]

Wow, so many selfish people!!! Legally you have to isolate if you test positive , so you’d need to find someone or pay someone to look after your horses, Regardless if you have your own yard or not.
It might just be mild symptoms for some but for others it’s a death sentence and the right thing to do is think about the bigger picture and not just yourself.

Hospital admissions and deaths are massively down despite high numbers of positive tests. And we have such a high number because we test so much.
About time we started living with it and using common sense.

Us English tax payers having to fund the ridiculous restrictions in other parts of the UK again. We now have more debt than after the world war !

 

[teapot]

I had a cold. Like I have had at least once every winter for the past few decades.
You do realise that this "dreaded " "omicron " variant presents as a cold ?
Are we going to be scared of colds forever? Where do we draw the line ?

As far as I know the humble common cold doesn't tend to put someone in ICU...

 

[Sossigpoker]

Whispers, it’s not a cold.

It is a viral infection that presents with a sore throat, blocked nose and a headache. That's literally what a seasonal cold is.

 

[Sossigpoker]

As far as I know the humble common cold doesn't tend to put someone in ICU...

And neither does "omicron ".

 

[AmyMay]

It is a viral infection that presents with a sore throat, blocked nose and a headache. That's literally what a seasonal cold is.

F&(k’s sake.

 

[teapot]

And neither does "omicron ".

Think you'll find all Covid variants actually do - alpha, beta, delta, oh and omicron.

It is a viral infection that presents with a sore throat, blocked nose and a headache. That's literally what a seasonal cold is.

In SOME cases, not all.

 

[AmyMay]

And neither does "omicron ".

You understand though, that Omicron is not the only strain around, right?

 

[Sandstone1]

Hospital admissions and deaths are massively down despite high numbers of positive tests. And we have such a high number because we test so much.
About time we started living with it and using common sense.

Us English tax payers having to fund the ridiculous restrictions in other parts of the UK again. We now have more debt than after the world war !

I would check the news if I were you, there has been a big jump in hospital admissions today.

 

[Sossigpoker]

No one is scared of a cold. People are rightly concerned about COVID. Once you grasp that feel free to join the grown ups in the conversation ?

I was concerned about covid when it was putting people on ventilators. The current variant is very mild , presents as a cold , most of us have probably had it by now.
If we get another variant that causes such acute and uncontrollable pneumonia, I will worry, but at the moment I don't.

 

[bouncing_ball]

I had a cold. Like I have had at least once every winter for the past few decades.
You do realise that this "dreaded " "omicron " variant presents as a cold ?
Are we going to be scared of colds forever? Where do we draw the line ?

If you have a cold with current covid surge omicron figures you should do a lateral flow test before you leave home to make sure it isn’t covid.

Covid isn’t just a cold. But it is hopefully slowly evolving in that direction.

 

[Sossigpoker]

You understand though, that Omicron is not the only strain around, right?

It is by far the dominant strain. If I had symptoms of a cough and loss of smell and taste , I'd be worried and would take the test. But not for the symptoms of a cold.

 

[Sossigpoker]

If you have a cold with current covid surge omicron figures you should do a lateral flow test before you leave home to make sure it isn’t covid.

Covid isn’t just a cold. But it is hopefully slowly evolving in that direction.

Lateral flow tests are very inaccurate and are meant to be used to identify asymptomatic cases. I have friends who were very sick with the previous variants but had negative lateral flow tests.

 

[teapot]

I was concerned about covid when it was putting people on ventilators. The current variant is very mild , presents as a cold , most of us have provably had it by now.
If we get another variant that causes such acute and uncontrollable pneumonia, I will worry, but at the moment I don't.

You get that it's mild for some people because vaccines are doing their job right? If we hadn't had such a good vaccine push, I'd be very surprised if it was as mild for as many people. We'd be up shit creek by now.

 

[Sossigpoker]

You get that it's mild for some people because vaccines are doing their job right? If we hadn't had such a good vaccine push, I'd be very surprised if it was as mild for as many people.

I've had three vaccines so I'm a bit disappointed that I still had a slightly bad cold. But in hindsight I did start to feel a bit run down just before my booster. So may well have already had it then. Or might just have had a cold. You.literally can't tell the difference.

 

[sjdress]

Lateral flow tests are very inaccurate and are meant to be used to identify asymptomatic cases. I have friends who were very sick with the previous variants but had negative lateral flow tests.

Everyone I know who has tested positive on PCR tested positive on LFT first so very accurate

 

[Sossigpoker]

Everyone I know who has tested positive on PCR tested positive on LFT first so very accurate

Very hit and miss in my experience.

 

[AmyMay]

I was concerned about covid when it was putting people on ventilators. The current variant is very mild , presents as a cold , most of us have provably had it by now.
If we get another variant that causes such acute and uncontrollable pneumonia, I will worry, but at the moment I don't.

Most of us haven’t had it by now, no. And it’s by no means certain that we all will. That’s why people isolate and don’t play fast and loose with the rules of quarantine (or at least they shouldn’t).

Sadly, ill informed people like yourself, or those that simply don’t care will be the reason why contagion will, in most cases, continue.

 

[Petmurf]

It is by far the dominant strain. If I had symptoms of a cough and loss of smell and taste , I'd be worried and would take the test. But not for the symptoms of a cold.

My Uncle has cold symptom, runny nose, headache, congestion, no cough or loss of smell and tast. He didn’t have a lateral flow tests so today I drove 120 miles round trip to drop some off to him, I posted them through the door and talked him through the instructions through an open window and low and behold the test came back positive…….He JUST HAS COLD SYMPTOMS

 

[Sossigpoker]

My Uncle has cold symptom, runny nose, headache, congestion, no cough or loss of smell and tast. He didn’t have a lateral flow tests so today I drove 120 miles round trip to drop some off to him, I posted them through the door and talked him through the instructions through an open window and low and behold the test came back positive…….He JUST HAS COLD SYMPTOMS

So he has cold symptoms? That's literally the omicron variant. Hospitalizations and deaths are massively down from last year despite high numbers of positive tests. This variant is mild. Even the South African health authorities wondered why uk was freaking out over it.

I'd much rather have this mild version and get some antibodies so if a more serious strain develops, those antibodies together with vaccines should hopefully keep me safe and well.

 

[Petmurf]

So he has cold symptoms? That's literally the omicron variant. Hospitalizations and deaths are massively down from last year despite high numbers of positive tests. This variant is mild. Even the South African health authorities wondered why uk was freaking out over it.

I'd much rather have this mild version and get some antibodies so if a more serious strain develops, those antibodies together with vaccines should hopefully keep me safe and well.

But whilst you were getting the antibodies, you would be spreading it to other people as you said if you just had cold symptoms you wouldn’t take a test?? You seem to be only Concerned with keeping yourself safe and not other people around you

 

[Ali27]

I think there other thing to consider is the virus is zoonotic and very transmissible .. I would also be concerned about passing it on to my horse not just other people on the yard. In other words I would also be taking precautions for my horse.. wear a face mask .. a proper one ffp2 at least etc.

I had covid a few weeks ago (only mild cold symptoms), I still went and sorted my ponies twice a day as I have my own field with stables. I kissed them lots/ my cats too as I was feeling fed up being locked up and none of them got Covid ?? I didn’t isolate from my husband either and he didn’t get it either! I really don’t think horses are in any danger of getting it!

 

[Sossigpoker]

But whilst you were getting the antibodies, you would be spreading it to other people as you said if you just had cold symptoms you wouldn’t take a test?? You seem to be only Concerned with keeping yourself safe and not other people around you

Government advice was to test if you have a new cough or a loss of taste and smell. When talking to a medic when repeating my prescriptions, they said that as the omicron symptoms are just like a cold , they're only interested in testing so they can identify those who develop "long covid ". Clearly not that bothered!

 

[sjdress]

I had covid a few weeks ago (only mild cold symptoms), I still went and sorted my ponies twice a day as I have my own field with stables. I kissed them lots/ my cats too as I was feeling fed up being locked up and none of them got Covid ?? I didn’t isolate from my husband either and he didn’t get it either! I really don’t think horses are in any danger of getting it!

But what if you broke down on the way to the horses , were involved in an accident or needed a vet… you would then be potentially putting those people at risk. It’s only 10 days (or 7 now) I really can’t understand how people can go about their normal lives with a positive result.

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

My family or friends would do him again like they did the last time I had it.

Mind you it would be different this time about as it’s winter and they are in at night but I have a good group of friends and my family are horsey.

 

[LadyGascoyne]

Exactly. Plus this latest variant is a cold. Literally.
I think I had it. I had a cold , perhaps a bit worse than a typical winter cold but not much. I went to the yard every day regardless. Everyone is fine.
Are we really going to lock the country down every year ? I'd get it if people were dying everywhere but they're not. It's a cold.

Please consider this.

If you refuse to adhere to national rules around isolating if you are COVID positive because you believe this is “just a cold”, you have vastly increased your chances of passing your “cold” around.

You may pass it on to someone who becomes seriously unwell - and it does happen, it is not “just a cold” for everyone - and they could end up in hospital. Or they could break their leg the next day and end up in hospital for another reason but positive for COVID. They could then infect other patients, and the healthcare workers that are exposed to them.

You may pass it to someone whose wife, husband, mother, father, daughter, son, friend, works in healthcare. And when they test positive, they will be unable to work.

When there are canceled surgeries or lapsed cancer wait times because of staff absences, how harmful does your “cold” become?

Because there are enormous NHS staff sickness rates at the moment, and life or death decisions are having to be made based on available resources. The drop in days of isolation for a positive test is not because everything is hunky dory but because it is not sustainable to have this many NHS workers off sick.

An emergency consultant I spoke to recently described losing a 21 year old car accident victim because they couldn’t treat him fast enough. They were convinced that they could have saved him. If beds were available. If the ambulances weren’t queuing. If they had the staff.

I’m sure that many of those commenting that they have not followed isolation rules when positive with COVID will consider cancer wait times and NHS staff shortages to be ‘not their responsibility’ and point to other bits of a broken system.

But you get to choose whether to be part of the solution or part of the problem and frankly, you have chosen very, very poorly.

 

[Sossigpoker]

I had covid a few weeks ago (only mild cold symptoms), I still went and sorted my ponies twice a day as I have my own field with stables. I kissed them lots/ my cats too as I was feeling fed up being locked up and none of them got Covid ?? I didn’t isolate from my husband either and he didn’t get it either! I really don’t think horses are in any danger of getting it!

My horse had a mystery illness early this year- wonder if he had covid ? (Very high temperature and a "sore throat )

 

[Sossigpoker]

Please consider this.

If you refuse to adhere to national rules around isolating if you are COVID positive because you believe this is “just a cold”, you have vastly increased your chances of passing your “cold” around.

You may pass it on to someone who becomes seriously unwell - and it does happen, it is not “just a cold” for everyone - and they could end up in hospital. Or they could break their leg the next day and end up in hospital for another reason but positive for COVID. They could then infect other patients, and the healthcare workers that are exposed to them.

You may pass it to someone whose wife, husband, mother, father, daughter, son, friend, works in healthcare. And when they test positive, they will be unable to work.

When there are canceled surgeries or lapsed cancer wait times because of staff absences, how harmful does your “cold” become?

Because there are enormous staff sickness rates at the moment, and life or death decisions are having to be made based on available resources. The drop in days of isolation for a positive test is not because everything is hunky dory but because it is not sustainable to have this many NHS workers off sick.

An emergency consultant I spoke to recently described losing a 21 year old car accident victim because they could treat him fast enough. They were convinced that they could have saved him. If beds were available. If the ambulances weren’t queuing. If they had the staff.

I’m sure that many of those commenting that they have not followed isolation rules when positive with COVID will consider cancer wait times and NHS staff shortages to be ‘not their responsibility’ and point to other bits of a broken system.

But you get to choose whether to be part of the solution or part of the problem and frankly, you have chosen very, very poorly.

I don't actually know if I've had covid.
The NHS needs to get back to normal, use those Nightingale hospitals if need be, and stop deferring routine treatment.
My friend has had her spinal surgery essentially cancelled. The hospital according to official stats is far from full of covid patients, so it sounds like just a convenient excuse.