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Zuzan

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Ah an "expert" I see.

I had covid a few weeks ago (only mild cold symptoms), I still went and sorted my ponies twice a day as I have my own field with stables. I kissed them lots/ my cats too as I was feeling fed up being locked up and none of them got Covid ?? I didn’t isolate from my husband either and he didn’t get it either! I really don’t think horses are in any danger of getting it!
 

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And di people suggest we shut the country down every 6 months fir ever ?
Kids stay home from school , small businesses go out of business, national debt continues to sky rocket. Soon we will have to borrow money just to keep the country ticking over.

Covid will never go away. Never. So when do we start living or are we going to be locked down forever?

It doesn't personally affect me as I can work from home ,.my field of employment is about as safe as they come and I don't have kids. But seeing friends lose their jobs and businesses, their kids developing anxiety disorders due to isolation,.not being allowed at your parents bedside as they're dying....how the feck is any of that OK?
Shall we just carry on living like this forever?
 

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I don't actually know if I've had covid.
The NHS needs to get back to normal, use those Nightingale hospitals if need be, and stop deferring routine treatment.
My friend has had her spinal surgery essentially cancelled. The hospital according to official stats is far from full of covid patients, so it sounds like just a convenient excuse.

But why would they make an excuse not to do surgery? That makes no sense whatsoeve. At the beginning of the year my Dad needed urgent lung cancer surgery which kept being moved due to lack of beds and staff due to Covid, by the time he actually got in for surgery it was too late as the cancer had spread and he sadly died a month after his surgery date. The hospital weren’t making excuses when they moved his appointments, it was simply down to too many covid patients and staff off sick
 

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I work with someone who is CEV, if I go to work with covid and give it to her there is a very good chance she could die. Think about that when you happily go out and about with your cold.
For the past two years I've literally not seen my office , only place i go to is the yard. I think I've been to the pub about 3 times. I think I'm doing more than a lot of people.
 

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I don't actually know if I've had covid.
The NHS needs to get back to normal, use those Nightingale hospitals if need be, and stop deferring routine treatment.
My friend has had her spinal surgery essentially cancelled. The hospital according to official stats is far from full of covid patients, so it sounds like just a convenient excuse.

i work in the NHS and at the moment staffing is the main issue in my department, along with increased referrals/caseloads and covid protocols meaning we are having to work differently. Extra cleaning inbeteeen patients means we are not able to see so many patients as we usually would in one clinic, because we have to factor in cleaning time and room airing time. Everyone is working harder than ever, it’s relentless and with comments like yours thankless.
 

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I don't actually know if I've had covid.
The NHS needs to get back to normal, use those Nightingale hospitals if need be, and stop deferring routine treatment.
My friend has had her spinal surgery essentially cancelled. The hospital according to official stats is far from full of covid patients, so it sounds like just a convenient excuse.

Please reread. The hospitals are suffering from huge amounts of staff needing to be off due to positive COVID tests or COVID-related caring issues. You cannot staff a Nightingale if there are massive staff shortages across the board.

Refusing to help to stop the spread by going to a livery yard when you suspect you have COVID is not helpful in preventing surgeries like your friend’s being cancelled.

There is absolutely nothing “convenient” about cancelling a surgery. It is quite the reverse - it has an enormous workload impact, a huge cost impact, and an emotional impact on the team supporting the patient. There is a huge sense of hopelessness, anxiety, frustration and guilt for NHS staff who feel they cannot deliver the level of care they know is right. No one wants to cancel a surgery.

If you want routine care to return to normal as soon as possible, which we all do, then the best possible way of supporting that is to take every precaution possible if you have tested positive for, or are showing symptoms of, COVID.
 
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Exactly. Plus this latest variant is a cold. Literally.
I think I had it. I had a cold , perhaps a bit worse than a typical winter cold but not much. I went to the yard every day regardless. Everyone is fine.
Are we really going to lock the country down every year ? I'd get it if people were dying everywhere but they're not. It's a cold.

No. It is not a cold. If you have symptoms and do not isolate / get tested then you are being incredibly selfish.
 

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But we can't carry on like this forever either. I haven't seen my relatives for over 2 years and they are not getting any younger. I can't look for a decent job whilst homeschooling is a threat still. It's put women's equality back years. When do we get to back to some kind of normality? Vaccines seem to be working and it was supposed to be the answer or solution but clearly isn't. I know of at least a couple of young people who have committed suicide due to the loneliness of covid.

As for the yard goes, I think the throw it in a field solution with someone casting an eye over it every day sounds like a decent compromise. You should really have money to pay for unexpected outlays with horses, but times have not been easy so maybe she can't afford the extra outlay.
 

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But we can't carry on like this forever either. I haven't seen my relatives for over 2 years and they are not getting any younger. I can't look for a decent job whilst homeschooling is a threat still. It's put women's equality back years. When do we get to back to some kind of normality? Vaccines seem to be working and it was supposed to be the answer or solution but clearly isn't. I know of at least a couple of young people who have committed suicide due to the loneliness of covid.

As for the yard goes, I think the throw it in a field solution with someone casting an eye over it every day sounds like a decent compromise. You should really have money to pay for unexpected outlays with horses, but times have not been easy so maybe she can't afford the extra outlay.


Why can't you look for a decent job? We employ plenty of parents, both male and female, and they manage. There is not a choice about how we carry on, because clearly it is essential that we have a functioning health service, so we need to limit case numbers at any one time. Vaccines help with this, but no vaccine is 100% Of course higher uptake would help, and no doubt that will have to be addressed at some point. We all wish it were different, but it is not, and just wanting to go back to 'normality' does not mean that this would be possible while maintaining the NHS, and indeed the schools.
 

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I had a cold. Like I have had at least once every winter for the past few decades.
You do realise that this "dreaded " "omicron " variant presents as a cold ?
Are we going to be scared of colds forever? Where do we draw the line ?
And far more people die from heart disease (I think about average 460 a day) than are now dying 'with' or 'having had' covid.
 

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Because I had a job partially during the first lockdown, other half worked 12 hours / day, and it was incredibly stressful trying to homeschool and work at the same time and I did a mediocre job of both as you can't be in two places at the same time. Not fair on little person, not fair on employer, not fair on me. I am not prepared to do that again.
 

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Hospital admissions and deaths are massively down despite high numbers of positive tests. And we have such a high number because we test so much.
About time we started living with it and using common sense.

Us English tax payers having to fund the ridiculous restrictions in other parts of the UK again. We now have more debt than after the world war !


YIKES. You do understand the UK is a union, with devolved powers re health and additionally, England isn't the only country in it with an economy? Extremely ignorant comment.
 

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To be fair thankfully it does look like omicron may be less deadly than other variants but the speed at which this virus mutates means that it may change and become more deadly so still some caution needed.


I’m assuming those who think it’s a cold haven’t known anyone who’s been really ill or died from Covid?
 

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That is due to people being careful and staying at home if they have covid and the vaccines and testing before visiting vulnerable people and wfh.

If we stop doing this the death rates and damage due to long covid are likely to go up again.

And far more people die from heart disease (I think about average 460 a day) than are now dying 'with' or 'having had' covid.
 

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But we can't carry on like this forever either. I haven't seen my relatives for over 2 years and they are not getting any younger. I can't look for a decent job whilst homeschooling is a threat still. It's put women's equality back years. When do we get to back to some kind of normality? Vaccines seem to be working and it was supposed to be the answer or solution but clearly isn't. I know of at least a couple of young people who have committed suicide due to the loneliness of covid.

As for the yard goes, I think the throw it in a field solution with someone casting an eye over it every day sounds like a decent compromise. You should really have money to pay for unexpected outlays with horses, but times have not been easy so maybe she can't afford the extra outlay.

Both my sister and brother are professionals. They can manage to home school.
 

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And di people suggest we shut the country down every 6 months fir ever ?
Kids stay home from school , small businesses go out of business, national debt continues to sky rocket. Soon we will have to borrow money just to keep the country ticking over.

Covid will never go away. Never. So when do we start living or are we going to be locked down forever?

It doesn't personally affect me as I can work from home ,.my field of employment is about as safe as they come and I don't have kids. But seeing friends lose their jobs and businesses, their kids developing anxiety disorders due to isolation,.not being allowed at your parents bedside as they're dying....how the feck is any of that OK?
Shall we just carry on living like this forever?
So you help this situation by going round spreading your germs
 
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