Crate or not?

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OP having read this thread I do wonder if it is the right course of action in getting a puppy for your sick daughter, having a 18 month old terrier the puppy time is still fresh in my mind, something no one has mentioned is that young puppies usually need 4 meals a day then need to be taken outside for toiletting I'm not sure how one visit from your neighbour in your working hours is going to achieve this. As others have said it is a vital time in a puppies life & they really do need people with them for the majority of the time. My pup was certainly not asleep for this length of time , he slept at night, in the day he was eating, pooing, playing with our other dogs & chewing up anything he could get his teeth into.I am lucky enough to have my horses at home but no way would I have had my pup around when I was dealing with them, he would be secure in his crate.

meal at 7 then 12 then 4 then 8 so she will get 4 meals
 

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OP having read this thread I do wonder if it is the right course of action in getting a puppy for your sick daughter, having a 18 month old terrier the puppy time is still fresh in my mind, something no one has mentioned is that young puppies usually need 4 meals a day then need to be taken outside for toiletting I'm not sure how one visit from your neighbour in your working hours is going to achieve this. As others have said it is a vital time in a puppies life & they really do need people with them for the majority of the time. My pup was certainly not asleep for this length of time , he slept at night, in the day he was eating, pooing, playing with our other dogs & chewing up anything he could get his teeth into.I am lucky enough to have my horses at home but no way would I have had my pup around when I was dealing with them, he would be secure in his crate.

My daughter cant do much she gets tired so she will sit in the car with the puppy after a while
 

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I actually suspected this was wynd up on your 1st post now I'm sure. You have chosen 2 very controversial subjects and seem not to be taking any advice. If the puppy trader knows you are leaving a puppy this long crate or no crate then she is a disgrace. As a rescue I'm sure I would take a flogging for refusing you a young puppy. But I would do just that. 1, you are wanting the puppy on an emotion whim and as a gift for an unwell child. I would be worried of this puppy upsets your child (be it mouthing) or just doing what puppies do you would be wanting to return as now your child is upset.

2,It's wrong to crate for this long in such a young and energetic x of a breed and unacceptable and I'm the biggest crate training advocate in Britain lol.

Pay for a service if this must go ahead. Have someone come into the home to play with and let the puppy out. If you are lucky like I once did for clients you will get a well trained puppy (I was paid to train puppies) which I devoted 4 hours of the owners working day to do. ( was it expensive) for the owner?...It probably was but it was a must for the welfare of the puppies and it was not forever only the first 6 months of their lives until they could manage a good walk, Resulting in 4 very well adjusted and well behaved adult dogs that now only need 1 hour walks a day at the age of 4 as we still walk them all.
 
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It seems to be Amy May but really not my intention. If you knew me personally you would know that the puppy will have the best life ever.

I have absolutely no doubt that your intentions are 100%. But really, you have simply no conception of how hard it is having a puppy. The time and effort you need to put in is enormous. It was certainly a shock to my system, and I don't work.

As a teacher I imagine your days start early, and you're not home until 5ish. Then to the yard. Then dinner. Then work, then bed.

Where does the puppy fit in - an hour or two of your time maybe? That's akin to solitary confinement. No dog should be kept in these circumstances, let alone a puppy. Mine was 12 weeks when we collected her (a Bichon, and the earliest the breeder would let her go) and was still so tiny. To leave anything so tiny and vulnerable for hours on end is abhorrent.

I could go on about late night toilet visits etc.

Op, please, please reconsider.

Do the right thing.
 

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I agree with Cayla, the op is a troll, read through some of her replies especially the answer to my post where I said I expect the breeder was going on a cruise with all the money and the op said she was.
 

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I agree with Cayla, the op is a troll, read through some of her replies especially the answer to my post where I said I expect the breeder was going on a cruise with all the money and the op said she was.

Phew! That's a relief! :) Needn't waste any more time or effort then. :D
 

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Op, it says in your profile you like to walk your dogs....???

yes I used to walk my neighbours old dogs at the weekend to help her as she has a hip complaint-that was 4 years ago. Both dogs have been PTS at the age of 13 and 14. My neighbour feeds my cats and has been a huge help to me especially when I was at the hospital. She didn't get another dog so is happy to be a godmother to Cariad the puppy and can sit with her for a hour or maybe even more, as the walls are thin between the houses she will go in if the puppy is howling x
 

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If you really must get a dog, may I suggest that you consider taking on an adult rescue that is used to being left. I believe that several people on here recommend greyhounds for such circumstance. No responsible breeder worth their salt would entertain selling a pup to someone in the situation that you describe.

I'm glad I read the whole thread where it was decided that the OP was a troll (what a pathetic inadequate individual they must be) because I would NEVER recommend a greyhound to this sort of owner.....
 

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so basically you're neighbour is raising your pup for you?! Just prepare her for having no time for herself over the next 8 weeks! This is ridiculous. What a shame for this poor pup.
 

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For once, I really do hope this is a troll posting :(

No its real and I wouldn't normally mention my daughter- I haven't ever as I don't think its right too with all her illness. Very real. As I said will post photos I have some when we went to visit the breeder in Essex but think better to wait till 3 weeks time when she is officially mine.
 

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Lévrier;12785244 said:
I'm glad I read the whole thread where it was decided that the OP was a troll (what a pathetic inadequate individual they must be) because I would NEVER recommend a greyhound to this sort of owner.....

I don't want a greyhound though!
 

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Lévrier;12785244 said:
I'm glad I read the whole thread where it was decided that the OP was a troll (what a pathetic inadequate individual they must be) because I would NEVER recommend a greyhound to this sort of owner.....

Sorry Levrier....the thread sort of evolved. I now wouldn't recommend any living breathing creature to this individual whatsoever. :(
 

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Calling your puppy Cariad which just happens to be the name of one of the groups which works with Puppylove to end puppy farming, give it up OP you had us going, just walk away.
 

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so basically you're neighbour is raising your pup for you?! Just prepare her for having no time for herself over the next 8 weeks! This is ridiculous. What a shame for this poor pup.

She lost her husband to cancer a year ago so she is really looking forward to coming and playing with her x
 

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There is no law either about leaving a dog alone for 5 hours!

No but there are laws about noise pollution. You said the walls are paper thin to you neighbours on one side. What about the other side?

Again there is no IF in will the pup cry, poor little might is going to be very very distressed.
 

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There is no law either about leaving a dog alone for 5 hours!

What does that have to do with anything?

It's a nine week old puppy....

I also suspect that your kindly neighbour will very quickly move the pup in with her. Now that is a recipe for tension. But beats listening to it constantly cry.
 
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What does that have to do with anything?

It's a nine week old puppy....

I also suspect that your kindly neighbour will very quickly move the pup in with her. Now that is a recipe for tension. But beats listening to it constantly cry.

Because you are all making me feel like a criminal when all I want to do is provide a loving home and give my daughter something to focus on rather than her up and coming tests. Yes my neighbour will be great.
 
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