CRUFTS 2024 roll call!

[EllieBeast]

Massive congratulations to @Patterdale and Wispa what an achievement! You did an amazing job!

Well done to everyone who put themselves out there for their breed, roll on next year! We’re planning to brave the BASC ring too in 2025- although that involves letting ring Mr EB show my boy

 

[druid]

You are onto a loser here - I was brought up in the dog showing world, I have zero respect for breed standards and the like because they have (in the majority of cases, certainly not always) done zip for the improvement of a breed.

He is a gorgeous little dog for sure, as I said I’d happily give a dog like him house room, but he is a show dog not a JRT. They look more like this….. (sometimes!)

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Those are lovely pet quality terriers. They are not Jack Russells.

 

[SkylarkAscending]

Those are lovely pet quality terriers. They are not Jack Russells.

I am eternally grateful they are “pet quality”

Honestly, quit with the bitchiness - you have a different view of what a JRT is than I do, I like the authentic breed, you like the show type. As with many other breeds - chalk and cheese.

I’d no more have a show bred dog of any breed than I’d be an astronaut, for reasons already stated

 

[druid]

I am eternally grateful they are “pet quality”

Honestly, quit with the bitchiness - you have a different view of what a JRT is than I do, I like the authentic breed, you like the show type. As with many other breeds - chalk and cheese.

I’d no more have a show bred dog of any breed than I’d be an astronaut, for reasons already stated

Nothing I've said is remotely bitchy.You are taking offence for no reason. You were spouting nonsense about the dog and breed. I just corrected you on the correct length of leg.

I'm sure your dogs are lovely pets, but they are no more fit for function than Zen. You prefer their type to his, it doesn't make yours "real jrt" or more correct somehow. It's just an opinion.

 

[SkylarkAscending]

Nothing I've said is remotely bitchy.You are taking offence for no reason. You were spouting nonsense about the dog and breed. I just corrected you on the correct length of leg.

I'm sure your dogs are lovely pets, but they are no more fit for function than Zen. You prefer their type to his, it doesn't make yours "real jrt" or more correct somehow. It's just an opinion.

You were bitchy by saying my dogs were “pet quality” - as someone who grew up around show dogs, that’s a known put-down.

Whatever, can’t be arsed any more, you think whatever you want to think

 

[druid]

You were bitchy by saying my dogs were “pet quality” - as someone who grew up around show dogs, that’s a known put-down.

Whatever, can’t be arsed any more, you think whatever you want to think

My spaniels are pet quality in terms of showing. I'm sat next to a pet quality mannie with very cute dobbie like ears. It's not remotely insulting, it's the truth.

 

[Jenko109]

I didnt stay up to watch the final.

Woke up relieved to see that the god awful Frenchie didnt win

It isn't a breed that I have any interest in, however I hav never seen one with such an extreme lack of snout.

 

[Jenko109]

I don't think there is anything remotely offensive in describing a dog as 'pet quality'

The vast majority of us on here will have dogs that are pet quality, surely?

 

[Tiddlypom]

When did the KC get their tainted paws on JRTs? It is it recent?

I thought that JRTs were a non recognised breed and therefore non KC eligible.

I do like the Crufts example, though, but as a spunky terrier type, not specifically a JRT.

TP, the owner of a ‘pet quality’ JRT . ‘Pet quality’ does sound like a put down when coming from a showing peep.

 

[malwhit]

The Australian Shepherd, Jack Russell and most of the other group winners I could have taken home

Although I loved him, I have never seen a Jack Russell look like the one from Crufts. He was a soundly built dog, and looked to have a great temperament
I just hope the breed doesn't end up looking like another Sealyham or Westie

 

[OldNag]

I loved tgat JRT - what a happy chap.

But he is absolutely nothing like any JRT I have ever met.

(And i have 2 "pet quality" ones myself).

Must admit, I also missed that they had come into the KC fold. As a showing ignoramus, I wonder why the KC example is so different to the "usual" JRT.

 

[Clodagh]

I don’t think the KC have ever improved a breed but I really liked the Crufts jrt. When you think they were bred to work he is big enough, with a solid enough head to take on a fox. Most of the modern ones you see in pet homes are too small and snipey headed to perform a traditional role. Probably a blessing in suburban home.

 

[SkylarkAscending]

I don't think there is anything remotely offensive in describing a dog as 'pet quality'

The vast majority of us on here will have dogs that are pet quality, surely?

As Tiddlypom has suggested, it’s the context - it is a total put down from a show person…..

Interesting to see that others share my view, it’s the usual thing IMO that once a breed enters the show ring it is morphed into something unlike the original….. English Bull Terriers, Pugs, Bulldogs, so many examples. It’s very sad.

 

[Goldenstar]

I don't think there is anything remotely offensive in describing a dog as 'pet quality'

Really ? I think perhaps you have not met many people into showing dogs .

 

[skinnydipper]

My JRT was a cracking little dog, couldn't fault him.

Does it really matter what someone else thinks? It certainly doesn't bother me.

I don't watch Crufts (I might watch the Police display team on YouTube sometime).

From Google search, JRT recognised by the Kennel Club in 2016.

 

[Goldenstar]

I have to say I find the concept of a show JRT difficult .

How ever the reserve looked like a supreme show dog radiating character and charisma at at nine he’s exceptional in showing terms . I loved him.
The winner was a stunning lovely colour .

 

[cauda equina]

'Pet quality' sounds like the canine equivalent of 'happy hacker'
Of all the JRTs I've known none have ever looked like Zen, lovely dog though he is

 

[Tiddlypom]

I don’t think the KC have ever improved a breed but I really liked the Crufts jrt. When you think they were bred to work he is big enough, with a solid enough head to take on a fox. Most of the modern ones you see in pet homes are too small and snipey headed to perform a traditional role. Probably a blessing in suburban home.

The smaller JRTs make cracking ratters and rabbiters, though.

I don’t know what a snipey head is. Is it another put down?

 

[Patterdale]

I haven’t been able to watch it yet, but my little monkey was very cheeky and cantered round with her nose on the floor, I was mortified!! She never does this so I didn’t know what to do! Because I don’t know much about dog showing
It’s a strange footing in the arena too, it’s like grass rather than carpet and was obviously harbouring lots of smells.
It was such an amazing experience but I do feel I let the breed down a bit by not showing her off properly.
But in my defence, it’s only the 4th dog show I’ve ever attended, and the dog is 13 months old and spent a few of those in a cage so we did ok.

We all SO thoroughly enjoyed the day, it was absolutely amazing and I got to meet Claire Balding!

The JRT was a lovely dog, and the owners were so nice, they really deserved it and they really seem to love that dog, I was near them in the collecting ring.
It looked to me like a picture of the breed standard, and exactly how a JRT should look. I hate to see them going short-legged like so many other breeds, personally.

What an unbelievable day. Thank you for all the well-wishers!! And especially @druid for all your past help and advice!

 

[AmyMay]

I think you did brilliantly @Patterdale and certainly didn’t let your breed down!!

 

[Goldenstar]

'Pet quality' sounds like the canine equivalent of 'happy hacker'

It is one step up from cull it.

The smaller JRTs make cracking ratters and rabbiters, though.

I don’t know what a snipey head is. Is it another put down?

Yes .

 

[MurphysMinder]

She wasn't the only one sniffing, no end of dogs were. That green carpet is a totally alien surface to most dogs, and I believe different to the breed rings so understandable that dogs wanted to check it out. For a baby she did amazingly, as did you.

 

[meleeka]

I haven’t been able to watch it yet, but my little monkey was very cheeky and cantered round with her nose on the floor, I was mortified!! She never does this so I didn’t know what to do! Because I don’t know much about dog showing
It’s a strange footing in the arena too, it’s like grass rather than carpet and was obviously harbouring lots of smells.
It was such an amazing experience but I do feel I let the breed down a bit by not showing her off properly.
But in my defence, it’s only the 4th dog show I’ve ever attended, and the dog is 13 months old and spent a few of those in a cage so we did ok.

We all SO thoroughly enjoyed the day, it was absolutely amazing and I got to meet Claire Balding!

The JRT was a lovely dog, and the owners were so nice, they really deserved it and they really seem to love that dog, I was near them in the collecting ring.
It looked to me like a picture of the breed standard, and exactly how a JRT should look. I hate to see them going short-legged like so many other breeds, personally.

What an unbelievable day. Thank you for all the well-wishers!! And especially @druid for all your past help and advice!

What a massive achievement to get there! Who cares that she might not have shown her best, there will be plenty of time for that. You both had a lovely day and made it to the group judging. There’s really not many people who can say that, especially with a young dog that has been through such a lot.

 

[ihatework]

Massive well done @ Patterdale! From #1 Mannie fan!

 

[SkylarkAscending]

The smaller JRTs make cracking ratters and rabbiters, though.

I don’t know what a snipey head is. Is it another put down?

Yes - for example if you look at my two, someone who doesn’t know them could think they are narrow in skull and face because of their markings. They aren’t of course, Colin in particular as a dog has a lovely broad skull and great conformation.

It’s the annoying thing about growing up in a showing environment, I always go for dogs who look good

 

[CorvusCorax]

A snipey head is a head that.. looks like a snipe (thin and pointy).

 

[Spotherisk]

I thought the JRT looked a useful sort, fit for purpose. I can imagine him out in the fields, being busy and fun.

 

[meleeka]

I thought the JRT was a lovely dog. He really showed the great character of the breed. He was very fluffy, which I suspect made him look totally different than he would, if he were a short hair.

 

[Patterdale]

She wasn't the only one sniffing, no end of dogs were. That green carpet is a totally alien surface to most dogs, and I believe different to the breed rings so understandable that dogs wanted to check it out. For a baby she did amazingly, as did you.

Thank you.
Yes it’s completely different, they even have a strip of it in the collecting ring to practice on because some dogs really don’t like it. Mine liked it too much, 4 days worth of treats and smells smushed into it

 

[Patterdale]

I thought the JRT was a lovely dog. He really showed the great character of the breed. He was very fluffy, which I suspect made him look totally different than he would, if he were a short hair.

He really was beautiful, and a proper terrier but with a lovely temperament. I was pleased for them.