Cud some kind person get me a number on preloved

Moomin1 said:
It will only grow if people continue to pay. So those honest people who pay their way, will keep the business going.
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No - it will continue to keep going once enough people have initially paid for and benefitted from the service to enable advertising revenue to sustain it (keep the business going). Thereafter, the normal rules of marketing apply.
 
Mrs B said:
No - it will continue to keep going once enough people have initially paid for and benefitted from the service to enable advertising revenue to sustain it (keep the business going). Thereafter, the normal rules of marketing apply.
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...Even if that is so, which I disagree to some extent, then there are still honest people paying up and scrounging low moralled people taking free info in the meantime....
 
Mrs B said:
No - it will continue to keep going once enough people have initially paid for and benefitted from the service to enable advertising revenue to sustain it (keep the business going). Thereafter, the normal rules of marketing apply.
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You haven't read back have you?

There is a statement by them a few pages back that says they limit advertising to make the experience of using the site better for everyone, and therefore need to charge a user fee for early access to seller details.

They are already a big organisation who could force far more advertising on users If they chose. What they need to keep the current service is people to pay for what they use.
 
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cptrayes said:
How can the business grow if people share the thing that generates revenue? What do you think they are going to pay these new employees with?
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People love being part of a club. The 'thing they share that generates revenue'. If they share, they're in that club. That generates an opportunity to market further products to them, which generates revenue to pay staff.
 
Well a different slant on it, can't be arsed trawling through preloved , so if anyone is looking and spots a 15 inch Brown throwogood T4 pony club saddle, let me know, (Il cough up the fiver then to get a number :p) unless someone just wants to do both :p
 
..I'm still waiting for some kind soul to donate five quid to me to buy a nice bottle of wine this evening...anyone??
 
cptrayes said:
You haven't read back have you?

There is a statement by them a few pages back that says they limit advertising to make the experience of using the site better for everyone, and therefore need to charge a user fee for early access to seller details.

They are already a big organisation who could force far more advertising on users If they chose. What they need to keep the current service is people to pay for what they use.
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I have read back. And you believe them? Honestly?

(ETA - Am off to bed. My 'new' horse ( 2 weeks) is in Horsepital with a kicked stifle and after everything else that's happened this year, horse-wise, thank you for the spirited distraction x)
 
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Am I right in thinking that the £5 membership enables people to place ads?
If this is the case then the site would be generating income from people advertising their goods so would keep going on that basis (although I may have got this wrong as I've never used the site myself).

In most advertising situations, you pay to place an advert. I think it's less usual for people to pay to view adverts so by charging people to view an advert ahead of the general public Preloved have hit upon an idea for generating extra income.

Apologies if I've got this wrong.
 
Mrs B said:
People love being part of a club. The 'thing they share that generates revenue'. If they share, they're in that club. That generates an opportunity to market further products to them, which generates revenue to pay staff.
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You really are desperate to justify not paying for services people should be paying for, aren't you? We are talking about doing a business out of revenue here, not some cosy little club. If people nick your first product, they'll nick your second too!
 
Mrs B said:
I have read back. And you believe them? Honestly?
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Believe they could pump more advertising into the site? Of course they could.

But even if I didn't I wouldn't take their product and give it free to someone else!

Banks disgust me with the way they do business. It doesn't mean I think I should be able to defraud them.
 
cptrayes said:
You really are desperate to justify not paying for services people should be paying for, aren't you? We are talking about doing a business out of revenue here, not some cosy little club. If people nick your first product, they'll nick your second too!
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Bless you, CPT. Sleep well.
 
Nancykitt said:
Am I right in thinking that the £5 membership enables people to place ads?
If this is the case then the site would be generating income from people advertising their goods so would keep going on that basis (although I may have got this wrong as I've never used the site myself).

In most advertising situations, you pay to place an advert. I think it's less usual for people to pay to view adverts so by charging people to view an advert ahead of the general public Preloved have hit upon an idea for generating extra income.

Apologies if I've got this wrong.
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I don't think it's really relevant Nancy. They are entitled to charge what they want for what they want to supply. If someone doesn't want to pay it then surely, they shouldn't use it?
 
Daytona said:
Ha ha I can't cope reading 8 pages of replys on my phone :-)
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I think the copying BS records-subject began with these two replies (on page 3, with settings = 40 replies per page):

khalswitz said:
Can I just add that people regularly look up BS records for other people on HHO, and it has never caused a riot like this - and BS membership is much more expensive. Surely that should be even worse?
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cptrayes said:
It's nothing like the same though is it K?

The primary purpose of BS membership is to own/ride a horse which competes BS, the record is incidental, and of not much commercial value.

People justifying what they are doing seem to be doing it by confusing what they pay preloved for. The subscription is not to 'own' one phone number from one ad, it's to have the right to any phone number on any ad before other users of the site.

There are two levels of subscription, one of which allows you to share information with other members of your organisation and costs five times as much as an individual subscription for that reason.

People seem to be forgetting that there are jobs at stake here if too many people refuse to pay the subscription. They don't provide the service for fun and they have a right to be paid for it.

I know it's 'only a fiver' but if you excuse dishonesty of a fiver, where do you stop?
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cptrayes said:
Awww, you are too kind :) Do I drink it or whack the snorer over the head with it?
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Bet he is snoring because he is bored to death with you, I know I am!! What do yo DO all day? Spend hour upon hour EVERY day on this forum arguing the toss?
 
That's not nice justabob.

This debate is an insight into people's moral compass. I guess it's only boring if you don't see any dilemma around the principles of small theft.
 
justabob said:
Bet he is snoring because he is bored to death with you, I know I am!! What do yo DO all day? Spend hour upon hour EVERY day on this forum arguing the toss?
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If it helps justabob, think of me as the price you pay for getting on this forum without paying five quid to access it. IPC magazines love threads like this that keep up the visit count :)
 
shannonandtay said:
Report it to the police then if u think it's theft, see what they say.
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They will say that investigating a theft of a product worth five pounds by an unnamed individual on the internet would take so much resources that it is not in the public interest.

Which is one reason why it's worth discussing here.

Oh hot dang Juststabob, I just posted from my hotel bed again, sorry!
 
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