Cud some kind person get me a number on preloved

FionaM12 said:
Perhaps it's not been reported. If no-one reports it, it won't be removed, surely?
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So I presume :) Interesting aside though, as someone felt they should report me,(perhaps they didn't believe that I had already paid twice for the test) but not this thread, although the OP is greyed out so presumably someone reported the rather choice language. I do not agree with theft, and do think the pre-loved thing is theft, but just interested in double standards
 
I only just found out what on earth "pushing the button" was this week while trying to make the forum work better. Not sure who would have done that, I once had a button pushed on something I said that inadvertently broke the rules, and it was quite annoying. Being a rule follower I felt inordinately guilty!
 
cptrayes said:
Doesn't the fact that it has been discussed to this extent mean there are rather a lot of people who think it's much more significant than being 'a bit cheeky'?


Though I could do without the stupid argument over semantics with moomin, that is silly, I think.
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I guess it comes down to a few people who have nothing better to worry about, lucky people.
 
Haven't read the whole thread, as I want to go on holiday by August, but I just want to say that it sets my teeth on edge every time I see the title - it isn't Cud (something a cow chews) is is Could.

For that reason alone, I would never pass on information to the OP
 
Elliesmemory1 said:
I guess it comes down to a few people who have nothing better to worry about, lucky people.
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Indeed it does, and the fact that they can spend a huge amount of time on here being so self righteous actually makes me think that they must have nothing else to do.
 
Bestdogdash said:
Haven't read the whole thread, as I want to go on holiday by August, but I just want to say that it sets my teeth on edge every time I see the title - it isn't Cud (something a cow chews) is is Could.

For that reason alone, I would never pass on information to the OP
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Oh thank heavens I am not the only one!
 
Whats was that quote about evil being when a good man stands by and does nothing? I think if rules/laws are broken its perfectly right to pull someone up on it. And it's not about moral superiority, none of us are perfect, but its about making people aware that they shouldn't be doing it, and that is it wrong.
 
Not read the 8 pages of replys but get the jist

You should pay to have got the number but just wondered what's the difference to what the OP did here and people who ask folks to look up BS record rather than pay the £10 or be a member.?

Don't see them jumped on for it.
 
The OP paid for the service. She didn't use the info herself but gifted it to someone who could, hoping she could help them and connect seller to buyer. Big, fat, hairy deal. It's hardly 'evil' and only barely 'immoral' in this case.

The website concerned benefited from THREE happy people: the person who paid, the person who advertised and the person who bought. So all three would be happy to promote that website by word of mouth in future. That's how business is built. The person/people who developed this website did it KNOWING that such things would occur. And would have factored it into their business plan.

I have a film for sale on Amazon about dementia. All the proceeds go to the charity concerned. But if someone with that film shows it free, gratis & for nothing to someone else who COULD have paid for it ... do I fret? No. Nor does the charity. Because the message about the film and the charity still comes though loud and clear.And (hopefully) more people will invest money with us/the charity (and via Amazon) and it becomes a virtuous circle.

Yes, there will always be thieves who will be morality-free zones and try to benefit from others' endeavours - but sometimes the strict rules of ownership and copyright must be bent a little to accommodate how the world actually works. For everyone's benefit.
 
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Mrs B said:
The OP paid for the service. She didn't use the info herself but gifted it to someone who could, hoping she could help them and connect seller to buyer. Big, fat, hairy deal. It's hardly 'evil' and only barely 'immoral' in this case.

The website concerned benefited from THREE happy people: the person who paid, the person who advertised and the person who bought. So all three would be happy to promote that website by word of mouth in future. That's how business is built. The person/people who developed this website did it KNOWING that such things would occur. And would have factored it into their business plan.

I have a film for sale on Amazon about dementia. All the proceeds go to the charity concerned. But if someone with that film shows it free, gratis & for nothing to someone else who COULD have paid for it ... do I fret? No. Nor does the charity. Because the message about the film and the charity still comes though loud and clear.And (hopefully) more people will invest money with us/the charity (and via Amazon) and it becomes a virtuous circle.

Yes, there will always be thieves who will be morality-free zones and try to benefit from others' endeavours - but sometimes the strict rules of ownership and copyright must be bent a little to accommodate how the world actually works. For everyone's benefit.
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Well said.

I'm fairly sure people watch their own DVD's with friends, and no one kicks up a stink about that.
 
Mrs B said:
The OP paid for the service. She didn't use the info herself but gifted it to someone who could, hoping she could help them and connect seller to buyer. Big, fat, hairy deal. It's hardly 'evil' and only barely 'immoral' in this case.

The website concerned benefited from THREE happy people: the person who paid, the person who advertised and the person who bought. So all three would be happy to promote that website by word of mouth in future. That's how business is built. The person/people who developed this website did it KNOWING that such things would occur. And would have factored it into their business plan.

I have a film for sale on Amazon about dementia. All the proceeds go to the charity concerned. But if someone with that film shows it free, gratis & for nothing to someone else who COULD have paid for it ... do I fret? No. Nor does the charity. Because the message about the film and the charity still comes though loud and clear.And (hopefully) more people will invest money with us/the charity (and via Amazon) and it becomes a virtuous circle.

Yes, there will always be thieves who will be morality-free zones and try to benefit from others' endeavours - but sometimes the strict rules of ownership and copyright must be bent a little to accommodate how the world actually works. For everyone's benefit.
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What would your attitude be of they copied the film and has the other person a copy? Because that's much more akin to what happened here, where both the buyer and the other person have the benefit of a service which has been paid for only once.

In addition, it is within the terms of the purchase of a DVD to give it to whoever you like and to show it to whoever you like as long as you do not charge them for watching it. So there is quite simply no issue at all with your example mrsb.
 
Daytona said:
Not read the 8 pages of replys but get the jist

You should pay to have got the number but just wondered what's the difference to what the OP did here and people who ask folks to look up BS record rather than pay the £10 or be a member.?

Don't see them jumped on for it.
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Already covered that one, keep up :D
 
Now, if I put a thread up entitled "Could someone give me a fiver because I want to buy a nice bottle of wine this evening?"...I wonder how many people would tell me to shove off and stop being a tight arse?
 
cptrayes said:
What would your attitude be of they copied the film and has the other person a copy? Because that's much more akin to what happened here, where both the buyer and the other person have the benefit of a service which has been paid for only once.

In addition, it is within the terms of the purchase of a DVD to give it to whoever you like and to show it to whoever you like as long as you do not charge them for watching it. So there is quite simply no issue at all with your example mrsb.
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The buyer didn't buy the saddle, the person they gave the info to did. Therefore only one person benefitted in effect.

And as for copying my film and passing it on? With my personal and professional hat on? Couldn't give a flying duckie; if it helps someone personally and will most likely help me/the charity in future? Win, win.
 
Mrs B said:
The buyer didn't buy the saddle, the person they gave the info to did. Therefore only one person benefitted in effect.

And as for copying my film and passing it on? With my personal and professional hat on? Couldn't give a flying duckie; if it helps someone personally and will most likely help me/the charity in future? Win, win.
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The product bought is not access to that one advert, Mrs b. It's access to all adverts for a year. The product has been made available to two people when only one has paid. And there is a loser here, it's preloved and preloved staff. If enough people do the same, jobs may go and the rest of us might lose it altogether.
 
cptrayes said:
The product bought is not access to that one advert, Mrs b. It's access to all adverts for a year. The product has been made available to two people when only one has paid. And there is a loser here, it's preloved and preloved staff. If enough people do the same, jobs may go and the rest of us might lose it altogether.
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I know that. And I would direct you to my point about people who set these sites up knowing that this will happen, as they also know they will benefit in kind. If enough people 'share', the business will grow, the ad revenue will build ... and jobs will be created and no one loses at all.
 
Mrs B said:
I know that. And I would direct you to my point about people who set these sites up knowing that this will happen, as they also know they will benefit in kind. If enough people 'share', the business will grow, the ad revenue will build ... and jobs will be created and no one loses at all.
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It will only grow if people continue to pay. So those honest people who pay their way, will keep the business going.
 
Mrs B said:
I know that. And I would direct you to my point about people who set these sites up knowing that this will happen, as they also know they will benefit in kind. If enough people 'share', the business will grow, the ad revenue will build ... and jobs will be created and no one loses at all.
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How can the business grow if people share the thing that generates revenue? What do you think they are going to pay these new employees with?
 
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