Dangerous stallion?

[little_critter]

It could be that it’s ’fine for the level of recovery and progress they’d expect to see at this stage.’ Sadly, the reality is that doctors are not magicians and often there is damage to human beings that just cannot be undone. It’s a hard message to communicate, and an even more difficult message to hear.

I really hope that the stallion owner has been seriously dealt with over allowing it near the path. And that there is sufficient fencing to prevent it ever getting close to the boundary again. It really is absolutely horrendous. I don’t think I could keep a horse who had done that.

But those are two different messages.
“Its as fixed as we can get it, sorry”
is not the same as
“It’s fine”

It’s fine implies you are fussing over nothing.
It’s as fixed as we can get it acknowledges there is a problem but explains that it’s not repairable.

 

[LadyGascoyne]

But those are two different messages.
“Its as fixed as we can get it, sorry”
is not the same as
“It’s fine”

It’s fine implies you are fussing over nothing.
It’s as fixed as we can get it acknowledges there is a problem but explains that it’s not repairable.

True but unless one is actually there in the consultations, how things are communicated and how they are interpreted is never something we can know.

ETA, in some of these very difficult situations, it’s not even a conscious thing sometimes - sometimes it’s information overload, sometimes it’s really the brain just protecting us. If multiple professionals are saying the same thing, then I think it’s sometimes just that awful reality of the situation not being able to be remedied in the way that the patient can cope with. It’s a horrible place to be but knowing clinicians as I do, the vast majority of them are desperately wanting to help their patients so it would be unusual to find multiple professionals who just aren’t interested or who genuinely think it’s fine if there are serious symptoms that are ongoing.

 

[misst]

If they genuinely believe it's not possible to stabilise the wrist/forearm they need to be thinking amputation. It is never acceptable to leave an fracture that has failed to unite just hanging around. The NHS is scarily bad at present. Orthopaedic surgeons in particular are an arrogant bunch overall (not all but most). When things go wrong they tend not to a acknowledge this and obfuscate before disappearing into the distance.They are especially difficult for trusts to manage, cover up for each other and are less than transparent.
I'm sure it's possible to fuse or plate the bones or something similar but I expect function is long gone. The important thing is to minimise future pain and if possible get some function back. A private upper limb surgeon specialising in hands and wrists along with a neurosurgeon would be her best bet for answers.
Poor poor lady. Dreadful treatment compounding her problems.

 

[TwyfordM]

She's going for another X-ray hopefully in the next few weeks privately just to see what's going on internally. Then hopefully find someone who can offer some help or even worst case, amputation as it's so so painful for her.

The original op just mashed together the bone fragments into one lump, in the hope it would fuse together and tried to stabilise it with the external frame.

I'm not a surgeon but I can't imagine why they did that, the bones were shattered. Calcifying into a big lump that isn't attached properly and is now moving around her wrist. You wouldn't leave a dog like that

Hand function, I don't think any of us are under any illusion she will get that back. But less pain, more stability and hopefully looking less terrible are the aim now.

Same hospital left me nearly dead from meningitis when I was 16, and T's daughter with a dislocated hip which they refused to X-ray and told her to take her home and give her calpol. Recent private X-rays showed it's been out the joint since and she's having an op to sort
It's shocking they are still allowed to treat patients when this is pretty standard for them, I'll happily travel the extra distance to avoid them now unless it's a dire emergency!

 

[misst]

She's going for another X-ray hopefully in the next few weeks privately just to see what's going on internally. Then hopefully find someone who can offer some help or even worst case, amputation as it's so so painful for her.

The original op just mashed together the bone fragments into one lump, in the hope it would fuse together and tried to stabilise it with the external frame.

I'm not a surgeon but I can't imagine why they did that, the bones were shattered. Calcifying into a big lump that isn't attached properly and is now moving around her wrist. You wouldn't leave a dog like that

Hand function, I don't think any of us are under any illusion she will get that back. But less pain, more stability and hopefully looking less terrible are the aim now.

Same hospital left me nearly dead from meningitis when I was 16, and T's daughter with a dislocated hip which they refused to X-ray and told her to take her home and give her calpol. Recent private X-rays showed it's been out the joint since and she's having an op to sort
It's shocking they are still allowed to treat patients when this is pretty standard for them, I'll happily travel the extra distance to avoid them now unless it's a dire emergency!

Sadly I'm unsurprised. I do hope she can get some answers soon x

 

[TwyfordM]

Guess who won the performance formula at Shuckburgh Hall Endurance today and that was just in the general competition, not the para leagues!

Back out competing and absolutely smashing this season so far! Sats still looking after Mum as always and taking her safely round

One handed rider and the three legged mare were recognised today as well

 

[TwyfordM]

Out on the track, little mare reached 16kmph at some points which is a personal best for her!

 

[Kunoichi73]

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Out on the track, little mare reached 16kmph at some points which is a personal best for her!

She's gorgeous and such a total star!

 

[PeterNatt]

That horse needs to be nominated for an award.

 

[TwyfordM]

That horse needs to be nominated for an award.

She so does, still amazes me that it was less than a year ago this accident and even though they've both been left scarred and with life long injuries, they are still getting better with each race.

She's catching up with the boys who are much bigger than her and aren't missing a tendon

She actually ended up doing another 10km on top due to T forgetting her map and me having to direct her back on track over the phone while she's riding at a flat out trot with no reins so she could hold the phone ... Absolutely bonkers, we were just hoping to scrape through a completion, but she made up the time and won it!

And this is her version of taking it easy

 

[TwyfordM]

These are the kind of maps you get given too

 

[Fjord]

Oh that's absolutely brilliant! They are both amazing!

 

[Kunoichi73]

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These are the kind of maps you get given too

I'm reconsidering my desire to do endurance riding!

 

[TwyfordM]

I'm reconsidering my desire to do endurance riding!

They hurt my brain quite often the markers on course get rubbed out or tampered with and you literally just have this. If I did it, I'd have to take a GPS, write myself out clearer instructions etc or I'd be screwed!

This was a national and FEI ride too

 

[Steerpike]

I'm reconsidering my desire to do endurance riding!

It was actually quite an easy map to follow, until on Saturday they had to change the route several times due to ground conditions!

 

[Steerpike]

Shuckburgh was not and FEI ride it was just a national

 

[TwyfordM]

It was actually quite an easy map to follow, until on Saturday they had to change the route several times due to ground conditions!

Yup, we were on the Sunday. Not a bad ride but all the last minute changes were a nightmare. We were parked about 3 fields away from the vetting/start line too but better than getting stuck in the field

 

[TwyfordM]

Shuckburgh was not and FEI ride it was just a national

Was a long weekend

 

[Steerpike]

We got towed in on Friday but managed to get out ok on Saturday, I was held going back out on course whilst they decided how to change the route so decided to elevate.

 

[TwyfordM]

We got towed in on Friday but managed to get out ok on Saturday, I was held going back out on course whilst they decided how to change the route so decided to elevate.

It's so difficult when the weather doesn't play ball
The venue was lovely though so will def be back

 

[Steerpike]

Yes it would have been a brilliant course of only the rain had stayed away!

 

[Lauraback]

Well done Tracy and her mare what a determined partnership they are ! Would love to read about their journey in a book one day x

 

[TwyfordM]

Happy pair out the other weekend at the Hornshill ride.
Considering she was having tremors/spasms in her bad arm, bleeding scars and kidney issues causing her to throw up and pass blood

Still smiling!
It's so nice to see her out on course, able to just focus on the ride and put all the stress and dramas out of her mind and relax!

 

[Surbie]

She's such an inspiration!

 

[GypsGal1718]

What a pair! Mine send their best wishes

 

[Ratface]

A brave and determined woman.

 

[Supertrooper]

Do H&H magazine still do the reader issue. This would be such an inspirational story to have in that and a great tribute to them both

 

[ycbm]

Isn't she just amazing?
.

 

[FestiveFuzz]

She’s such an inspiration. I do hope she gets some better news on her arm soon.

 

[TwyfordM]

Maintaining a pretty good ranking given she's had to miss a lot of competitions due to her daughters op!

Little Sats is teeny and only an open horse not advanced yet so even more impressive!