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Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
I can only imagine the amount of pain killers it takes to do that. What a trooper she is.
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Dangerous stallion?
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I can only imagine the amount of pain killers it takes to do that. What a trooper she is.
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Orangehorse
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Oh well done to them both. What grit and determination.
TwyfordM
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Zero. She has kidney and liver issues now (kidneys were pre existing but worsened by accident) so she might pop a paracetamol to get her through driving the box home after a ride but beyond that, won't take anything.
No idea how she does it, silly high pain tolerance?
Never moans either, if she does moan I know it's time to Chuck the paracetamol and a can of coke at her
ETA - she's also got metalwork holding her foot together and previously broke her back. Essentially she's superwoman
TwyfordM
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Matching war wounds ..
They are out again at Tilford next week for a 48k!
Not even 6 months post accident
TwyfordM
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So, the fix didn't work at all. The surgeon just smashed the bone together and you can see now it's all moved. Seen the surgeon recently and they say they won't do anything to fix
This has gotten worse in a week, the bone lump was half that size a week ago
meleeka
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So, the fix didn't work at all. The surgeon just smashed the bone together and you can see now it's all moved. Seen the surgeon recently and they say they won't do anything to fix
This has gotten worse in a week, the bone lump was half that size a week ago
Have they said what the lump is and why it’s growing? I don’t think I’d be happy if it’s not stable. Is she in pain?Parrotperson
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She’s entitled to a second opinionView attachment 137043
So, the fix didn't work at all. The surgeon just smashed the bone together and you can see now it's all moved. Seen the surgeon recently and they say they won't do anything to fix
This has gotten worse in a week, the bone lump was half that size a week ago
I’d be asking for it right about now……
TwyfordM
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Yep, lots of pain still. They said last Saturday that it's not joined together in the way they hoped, and without the support of tendons etc (they were shredded) there's nothing holding it in place so it's moving. Her hand is now stuck at that angle because there's bone in the way of her straightening it
I don't think they know what to do, it's been seriously messed up. She had a second opinion in jan abroad and they said they were at a loss of what to do given the way it's been left from the original fix and didn't want to attempt anything yet due to her kidney issues and the risks of further blood loss.
She's asked for a referral onto someone who might actually have some suggestions, but they are dragging their feet - think they know they've messed up
meleeka
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Yep, lots of pain still. They said last Saturday that it's not joined together in the way they hoped, and without the support of tendons etc (they were shredded) there's nothing holding it in place so it's moving. Her hand is now stuck at that angle because there's bone in the way of her straightening it
I don't think they know what to do, it's been seriously messed up. She had a second opinion in jan abroad and they said they were at a loss of what to do given the way it's been left from the original fix and didn't want to attempt anything yet due to her kidney issues and the risks of further blood loss.
She's asked for a referral onto someone who might actually have some suggestions, but they are dragging their feet - think they know they've messed up
I hope she keeps nagging them. At the very least they should be able to make it stable. They surely can’t just wash their hands of it and leave it like that!
TwyfordM
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She will, can't stay like this. I don't think any of us expected her to have a working hand again post accident. The damage was unreal, but it's mad that the surgeon appears to have made it worse
Esmae
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TwyfordM, have messaged you. Hope it helps.
Gloi
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That's terrible, I feel so bad for her.
PeterNatt
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TwyfordM! She needs a completely independent second opinion by a top class surgeon. Would need to go privately. She needs to ask her doctor for an 'Open letter of Refferel'. One with a good reputation is Maxim Horwitz who can be seen at the Wellington Clinic at St Johns Wood London.
TwyfordM
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scats
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God that’s awful! I can’t believe she has been left like that. The poor, poor lady.
Has she basically got no movement in her wrist now then?
Has she basically got no movement in her wrist now then?
TwyfordM
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Nothing, and she can't even straighten it because the bone is physically in the way. She can barely wiggle a finger, the amount of pain she's in is ridiculous.
Amputating and giving her a prosthetic wouldn't change much and she would be in less pain
AmyMay
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Awful. Has she had any compensation agreement yet with the stallion owner?
Fjord
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I was so pleased to see the riding updates, then saw the last picture. How awful, it's horrific to have been left like that.
Celtic Jewel
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Omg that’s awful 
TwyfordM
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Keith_Beef
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Has the owner been identified?No nothing yet
I would imagine that it would be easy enough to identify the owner of the land, who should be able to give the name of the person to whom the land was rented or to whom grazing rights had been given.
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cauda equina
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That's assuming there was a formal agreement and not fly-grazing
AmyMay
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It was established at the beginning of the post that it’s known who owns the stallion.
Keith_Beef
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Ok, thanks. I had a look back and didn't see that.
suestowford
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Compensation can take an age to sort out and I would expect if there's to be any prosecution it may well have to wait until that's done.
I think it has been mentioned that the Police were involved but I should think it's not possible to discuss that while it's all ongoing.
I do hope there is something that can be done for this poor lady, I am shocked by the state she's been left in.
I think it has been mentioned that the Police were involved but I should think it's not possible to discuss that while it's all ongoing.
I do hope there is something that can be done for this poor lady, I am shocked by the state she's been left in.
Orangehorse
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Has your friend been in touch with the Injured Jockeys Fund, or Oaksey House or the Mark Davies Injured Riders charity for help and advice?
I have seen that Oaksey House/ the Injured Jockeys have helped with physio etc with injured event riders so I don't see why they couldn't help. They might be able to refer to a different surgeon.
When Gilly Elliot broke her arm so badly the local surgeons wanted to amputate it, but she managed to get a referal to someone who dealt with riders and jockeys and put her arm back together again.
I have seen that Oaksey House/ the Injured Jockeys have helped with physio etc with injured event riders so I don't see why they couldn't help. They might be able to refer to a different surgeon.
When Gilly Elliot broke her arm so badly the local surgeons wanted to amputate it, but she managed to get a referal to someone who dealt with riders and jockeys and put her arm back together again.
4Hoofed
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Not really anything useful to add other then I’ve just seen and read this entire thread. What an amazing and inspirational lady, and incredible mare. Might I suggest editing the go fund me and making a more public campaign with the aim of raising money to see a private consultant? Even if she could get the initial consult or a few just to see if there’s someone who can do something? Sometimes they can then get you into their NHS clinic if they do nhs work??
TwyfordM
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So T took Sats out for a ride out yesterday and she put the brakes on before passing the stallions yard. Point blank refused to move, he's back out in the field and she won't let T near. Bless her. Thankfully he's not next to the path anymore and a couple of fields over ...
She's such a good girl!
T's wrist is looking awful and she's in a lot more pain, NHS are refusing to touch. She's been in to see several consultants at the hospital and they've all said it's fine
clearly it's not!
So she's going to have to get some further opinions privately
just to see what her options are, which is ridiculous. She's getting major tremors in that arm, the lump is still moving 
and she won't let T near. Bless her. Thankfully he's not next to the path anymore and a couple of fields over ...She's such a good girl!
T's wrist is looking awful and she's in a lot more pain, NHS are refusing to touch. She's been in to see several consultants at the hospital and they've all said it's fine
clearly it's not! So she's going to have to get some further opinions privately
just to see what her options are, which is ridiculous. She's getting major tremors in that arm, the lump is still moving Esmae
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She is such an amazing little mare. We ought to have a medal struck for her at the very least. Hope that the lass can get something positive from a private surgeon. The NHS, in her case, appear to be a complete disgrace.
LadyGascoyne
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So T took Sats out for a ride out yesterday and she put the brakes on before passing the stallions yard. Point blank refused to move, he's back out in the field
She's such a good girl!
T's wrist is looking awful and she's in a lot more pain, NHS are refusing to touch. She's been in to see several consultants at the hospital and they've all said it's fine
So she's going to have to get some further opinions privately
It could be that it’s ’fine for the level of recovery and progress they’d expect to see at this stage.’ Sadly, the reality is that doctors are not magicians and often there is damage to human beings that just cannot be undone. It’s a hard message to communicate, and an even more difficult message to hear.
I really hope that the stallion owner has been seriously dealt with over allowing it near the path. And that there is sufficient fencing to prevent it ever getting close to the boundary again. It really is absolutely horrendous. I don’t think I could keep a horse who had done that.