jj4y
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How would you know what a puppy does or doesn't notice? That is a bit presumptuous. It all boils down to fashion. I look forward to being proved wrong, but I have yet to see any evidence of long-term damage to a dog's tail because it isn't docked. Obviously there is the odd one, and the tails of Great Danes often split as they are very spindly - should be dock all dogs just to be on the safe side? Let's mutilate all the newborn puppies.
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Here is a quote taken from a doctorate on the feeling of pain in newborn puppies...
"Incomplete development of the nervous system at the time of birth and the very high chronaxie value in connection with the fact that the animal is not able to react effectively to pain, gives us every reason to believe that the actual feeling of pain is very low in the new-born of this group of mammals (dogs). In other words, at this age and biological condition, it would have no absolute meaning to talk about pain".
A lot of research has been done on this in the past and it is FACT that they have an inability to feel pain to a great extent in the first few days of life.
Please refer to the council of docked breeds website where there is plenty of evidence of tail damage. www.cdb.org
Petty statements saying should we dock ALL puppies are giving your arguement ZERO strength and credibility. My labradors are not docked as there is no need for them to be, however my springers are as I would much rather prevent them from having an otherwise unneccessary injury.
Do you believe that all preventative measures are cruel? Speying bitches is actually very complex surgery but is routinely done to prevent unwanted pregnancies and pyometra and reduce the chances of mammary tumours. Is this also cruel?
How would you know what a puppy does or doesn't notice? That is a bit presumptuous. It all boils down to fashion. I look forward to being proved wrong, but I have yet to see any evidence of long-term damage to a dog's tail because it isn't docked. Obviously there is the odd one, and the tails of Great Danes often split as they are very spindly - should be dock all dogs just to be on the safe side? Let's mutilate all the newborn puppies.
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Here is a quote taken from a doctorate on the feeling of pain in newborn puppies...
"Incomplete development of the nervous system at the time of birth and the very high chronaxie value in connection with the fact that the animal is not able to react effectively to pain, gives us every reason to believe that the actual feeling of pain is very low in the new-born of this group of mammals (dogs). In other words, at this age and biological condition, it would have no absolute meaning to talk about pain".
A lot of research has been done on this in the past and it is FACT that they have an inability to feel pain to a great extent in the first few days of life.
Please refer to the council of docked breeds website where there is plenty of evidence of tail damage. www.cdb.org
Petty statements saying should we dock ALL puppies are giving your arguement ZERO strength and credibility. My labradors are not docked as there is no need for them to be, however my springers are as I would much rather prevent them from having an otherwise unneccessary injury.
Do you believe that all preventative measures are cruel? Speying bitches is actually very complex surgery but is routinely done to prevent unwanted pregnancies and pyometra and reduce the chances of mammary tumours. Is this also cruel?
