Dont want to be clingy. but........ sold him ............ and...

FlyingCircus said:
Whilst it's fair enough that there's more information that we're not getting - we are only able to form opinions on the information we are getting. What we are getting is a confusing and weird half-story. We're all just posting our opinions based on what we have been told.
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Tbh the full story is just as weird too, probably more so.
 
I've gotta say, this is probably the weirdest reading post I've ever seen on here!

I understand people wanting to keep in touch regarding a horse but if a new owner goes to the trouble to tell you to stay away, you do just that. What I find really peculiar is that the new owner hasn't even been met so if a person you haven't met tells you that, is that not really really odd?? And on top of that you want to check the horse isn't being abused? Why sell it to a home you suspect might be mistreating it?

And as i'm sure others have already said - if you're going to post, post a full story, not bits of it that might make people jump to the wrong conclusions.
 
Whoopit said:
And on top of that you want to check the horse isn't being abused? Why sell it to a home you suspect might be mistreating it?

And as i'm sure others have already said - if you're going to post, post a full story, not bits of it that might make people jump to the wrong conclusions.
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She stated that she's 100% sure the horse isn't being abused, it's just that 'wanting to see for oneself'. I can understand and I wish I knew the full story to understand why she has been asked not to visit. I hope he's ok. Glad he was saved from the knackerman.
 
amymay said:
this situation is not usual. Please cut the op some slack.
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Well, fair enough Amymay, although I have to say your concise responses do not always cut anyone any slack. To a certain extent I understand the delicate situation OP is in, even if I don't have all the details. What I cannot accept is the casually racist language, regardless of disclaimers. Nul n'est censé ignorer la loi; ignorance is no excuse. And if someone called me a w*****, I would not be sympathetic.
 
Bojingles said:
Well, fair enough Amymay, although I have to say your concise responses do not always cut anyone any slack. To a certain extent I understand the delicate situation OP is in, even if I don't have all the details. What I cannot accept is the casually racist language, regardless of disclaimers. Nul n'est censé ignorer la loi; ignorance is no excuse. And if someone called me a w*****, I would not be sympathetic.
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It isn't racist language if it isn't directed at anybody because of their race or the poster is unaware of racist connotations.

I would have thought it was pretty obvious from the post that it wasn't, more like a derivation of "niggardly", or people who niggle.

"Niggardly" was wrongly deemed "racist" for a time as it happens.
 
I've googled it and it can be someone silly in Yorkshire, was a term used years ago. Perhaps the OP is older and from that area?

I do wish people wouldn't jump on the "racist" band wagon at every opportunity.
 
Whether it was intended as a racist comment or not, it can be percieved as one, and that isnt acceptable on a public forum where it may cause upset to people.
At least the op apoligised but i see her name has gone pale so assume shes been banned for it, but this whole threads been a bit strange really
 
Copperpot said:
I do wish people wouldn't jump on the "racist" band wagon at every opportunity.
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I've never jumped on any bandwagon at any opportunity. But "nig nog"??? Come on! It may have been a quaint Yorkshire saying at some point (really?) but since the 70s it surely has only meant one thing. Would you feel the same if OP had said "******"?
 
amymay said:
Ok, looking back on the pm's you sent me some time ago it's clear that the 'situation' was very upsetting and stressful for you. There also seems to have been some conflict with various people. The situation was resolved with the horse being purchased (signed over?) by the person who has the horse now (a professional involved in equine welfare).

I don't think it's unreasonable for you to want to know that the horse is happy and settled in his new home - especially given the circumstances surrounding his initial sale, subsequent 'rescue' and recent transfer of ownership. The last six months must have been very stressful and upsetting.

I do hope that the new owner will allow you to visit, and then follow it up with an update in the new year. It will allow you closure and the ability to move on.

I'm in the position of perhaps being a bit more informed than the majority of posters on this thread. And I would just like to say to everyone that this situation is not usual. Please cut the op some slack.
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This. Ill say it again - some people on this thread need to remember that there's a real person on the other end, who's going through a stressful time.

'Not knowing every last detail' is no excuse to be nasty.
 
Copperpot said:
I've googled it and it can be someone silly in Yorkshire, was a term used years ago. Perhaps the OP is older and from that area?

I do wish people wouldn't jump on the "racist" band wagon at every opportunity.
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Oh come on! The OP is the same generation as me and she comes from Scotland, like me. I knew the terms she used on this thread meant black people when I was a little kid at school. I'm another who doesn't like the racist/sexist card being overplayed but in this case, of course she knew what it meant unless she's been living in a cave for the last 50 years.
 
Bojangles, you are right - that term is TOTALLY :eek: and I am sure the OP (whoever they may be) knows damn well it is.

That is NOT jumping on a racist bandwagon, it's about keeping the forum safe and clean. What a disgusting term, anyway. No place for it on a forum such as this.
 
Bojingles said:
I've never jumped on any bandwagon at any opportunity. But "nig nog"??? Come on! It may have been a quaint Yorkshire saying at some point (really?) but since the 70s it surely has only meant one thing. Would you feel the same if OP had said "******"?
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Sorry I didn't know what it meant but if it's slang in a part of the country and used innocently no one can be offended. in this case OP apologised and said she didn't mean to cause offensive so that should be that
 
I can't believe anyone has been so petty as to get MrsD banned for a post which was clearly never in a million miles intended to be racist. There is simply no way, unless you know that the people disagreeing with you on the thread are black, that it could have been intended as racist abuse.

Shame on the button pusher :(
 
Bojingles said:
I've never jumped on any bandwagon at any opportunity. But "nig nog"??? Come on! It may have been a quaint Yorkshire saying at some point (really?) but since the 70s it surely has only meant one thing. Would you feel the same if OP had said "******"?
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If she had I would have assumed in the context that she had missed an l out of the word nigglers, which was absolutely clearly what she meant
 
Tbh I couldn't care less what terms she used. I'm not easily offended by words, especially ones not used in a racist context. Who was she being racist to? I haven't a clue who the comment was aimed at and it didn't particularly make sense, so it didn't offend me.
 
cptrayes said:
I can't believe anyone has been so petty as to get MrsD banned for a post which was clearly never in a million miles intended to be racist. There is simply no way, unless you know that the people disagreeing with you on the thread are black, that it could have been intended as racist abuse.

Shame on the button pusher :(
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Have to agree with this.
 
The thing I'd though is that you who are defending the op a connection or rapport with her, even to say friendly with her. The rest of us don't so we have nothing to go on but what is posted.

Now I would have said ignoring the naggers not what was posted, she could have edited it but chose not to if a genuine mistake so sorry for me that one doesn't wash.
 
Black Beastie said:
The thing I'd though is that you who are defending the op a connection or rapport with her, even to say friendly with her. The rest of us don't so we have nothing to go on but what is posted.

Now I would have said ignoring the naggers not what was posted, she could have edited it but chose not to if a genuine mistake so sorry for me that one doesn't wash.
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And in English?? :-D
 
Copperpot said:
Tbh I couldn't care less what terms she used. I'm not easily offended by words, especially ones not used in a racist context. Who was she being racist to? I haven't a clue who the comment was aimed at and it didn't particularly make sense, so it didn't offend me.
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It doesn't offend me either and although I did raise an eyebrow at her use of that term, it's not something I'd personally get het-up about. However I do find it ludicrous that anyone would try to excuse her for saying it and even more bizarre that they try to find some other "Yorkshire" meaning for it. Anyone of my generation from Scotland knows full well what the term means and it ain't got nothin' to do with a Yorkshire dimwit :wink3:
 
cptrayes said:
I can't believe anyone has been so petty as to get MrsD banned for a post which was clearly never in a million miles intended to be racist. There is simply no way, unless you know that the people disagreeing with you on the thread are black, that it could have been intended as racist abuse.

Shame on the button pusher :(
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Agree with this
 
I just put it into google and that's what came up. I don't know where OP is from it doesn't show me on my phone.

I just wondered what OP could have meant by it, as I can't see why that term would be used in the post in the way others have perceived it. It doesn't make sense, although not many of her posts have.
 
But she had sold him on, so no longer anything to do with her, didn't read the posts. But when will people realise when they sell a horse, they sell a horse and they have no say what happens with that animal after that.
 
Having read the whole thing, and being thoroughly confuddled by it, two things come to mind.

1) It seems that the horse (who obviously meant the world to MrsD) has gone to a sort of sanctuary type home?? .... possibly because of the neglect he suffered at the hands of his original purchasers? That would explain why the OP wasn't present when he went, and why the new 'owner' doesn't want a visit?

2) MrsD seems to be experiencing quite a large amount of emotional stress.... as someone who suffers from Depression, and who has had breakdowns, I would seriously be worrying that MrsD is on the cusp, if not already falling into an episode... anyone on here who knows her in 'real life' would do well to keep an especially close eye on her.... not least should she hurt herself, but also to provide the emotional cruch (hell, wheelchair) she souds as if she needs.

I'm not going to comment on 'that' comment, it has been dealt with, my 1st concern is to MrsD/MissLtoe's mental health, as the link seems tenuous at the moment...
 
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MudMudGloriousMud said:
Having read the whole thing, and being thoroughly confuddled by the whole thing, two things come to mind.

1) It seems that the horse (who obviously meant the world to MrsD) has gone to a sort of sanctuary type home?? .... possibly because of the neglect he suffered at the hands of his original purchasers?

2) MrsD seems to be experiencing quite a large amount of emotional stress.... as someone who suffers from Depression, and who has had breakdowns, I would seriously be worrying that MrsD is on the cusp, if not already falling into an episode... anyone on here who knows her in 'real life' would do well to keep an especially close eye on her.... not least should she hurt herself, but also to provide the emotional cruch (hell, wheelchair) she souds as if she needs.

I'm not going to comment on 'that' comment, it has been dealt with, my 1st concern is to MrsD/MissLtoe's mental health, as the link seems tenuous at the moment...
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Agree fully with this as a concerned person (not a nasty way)
 
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Yes she doesn't seem to know what she is saying some of the time. She seems upset and confused. I don't know the whole story but she obviously feels very helpless about the whole situation. And her getting banned for a comment which we don't know if was meant in a bad way, won't have helped her. She does seem in a very fragile state of mind.
 
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