Facts; Deal with them

black_horse said:
This is clearly a dig at me for my comments made to you yesterday. Considering your age you you are presenting yourself as a professional trainer and rider, you must understand people will question your knowlegde. I am sorry but learn to be wrong with grace, you rub people up the wrong way then winge like a teenager on here (oh wait, you ar a teenager) :P

Maybe they are agree because, shock horror, you might be wrong? You are forever learning, you do not know everything.

My rant over, i hate cocky, know-it-all teenagers,
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Exactly. The arrogance of QoC to assume that because she can't do something, it is simply not possible - to contradict the SRS of all people - for no other reason than that she personally cannot do it :eek: If you cannot see why your posts attract the responses they do, you really need to take a step back and try to look at them objectively, QoC. You may think you are some sort of training guru, but your experiences are, despite what you believe, limited.

BH, I hate cocky teenagers too :D

rhino said:
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Awesome :D

Annielusian said:
I've never owned a horse before, that also doesn't make me an idiot.
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On the other hand, it does mean that you lack a lot of the knowledge and experience of many posters on here - regardless of what you seem to think :rolleyes:
 
Loving this thread, was reading at work earlier but had to stop due to funny looks in the office :o

* Dont judge me because im a first time owner, yes I have made mistakes and will probs always make them but that dosent mean that im daft or dont give a $^£^!

* I will always ask for advice and tips (no matter how, many years down the line) as its good to get others opinions, whether advice is taken or not, its only polite to thank someone.

* my confidence is crap just now but it dosent mean im a "plank" to be walked over and treated like an idiot, I am NOT!! Dont think these people realise the length I am going to to 'get back to normal'

Yes, when I was a teenager I knew everything, what I didnt know was not worth knowing! :D btw sometimes it is actually dangerous not listen to safety advice given to you by people know you or even dont know you! Come back to me when your in 20s and are paying for your own, looking after them and working! Then you can talk to me about strict turn out times!

Loving how this thread is turning into who can find who on FB and google! Its scary how little (or lots in some cases) info you need these days to trace somebody! Think I may take up cyber stalking, defo more interesting than cleaning the house hehe :p
 
Another fact to deal with - if some of the people on this forum were made of chocolate, they would eat themselves.

Thankfully the worst of the terrible stuff I have ever come out with was published only in poetry journals and fanzines, most of which I have since found and burned. I hope :p
 
rhino said:
:D Like I said in a later post, there are a number of exceptional teenagers on here who I have a lot of respect for, you are one of them!
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Haha, in that case I'll let you off :p :D I've only just read your later post, so that'll teach me to comment on a thread without reading the whole thing :p

And thanks :o :D
 
Sherbie said:
Loving this thread, was reading at work earlier but had to stop due to funny looks in the office :o

* Dont judge me because im a first time owner, yes I have made mistakes and will probs always make them but that dosent mean that im daft or dont give a $^£^!

* I will always ask for advice and tips (no matter how, many years down the line) as its good to get others opinions, whether advice is taken or not, its only polite to thank someone.

* my confidence is crap just now but it dosent mean im a "plank" to be walked over and treated like an idiot, I am NOT!! Dont think these people realise the length I am going to to 'get back to normal'

Yes, when I was a teenager I knew everything, what I didnt know was not worth knowing! :D btw sometimes it is actually dangerous not listen to safety advice given to you by people know you or even dont know you! Come back to me when your in 20s and are paying for your own, looking after them and working! Then you can talk to me about strict turn out times!

Loving how this thread is turning into who can find who on FB and google! Its scary how little (or lots in some cases) info you need these days to trace somebody! Think I may take up cyber stalking, defo more interesting than cleaning the house hehe :p
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cyber stalking > lemon pledge :D
 
JFTD said:
On the other hand, it does mean that you lack a lot of the knowledge and experience of many posters on here - regardless of what you seem to think :rolleyes:
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Did I say I know more than people here? No. I said it doesn't make me an idiot.
I'll freely admit I don't know what feed horses need, I don't know how often to get shoes done, I don't know what jabs/vaccines horses need and several other things. I'll learn before I get my own, however.

ETA: If you google me, you get a few OLD drawings of mine and some photos of my friends...I'm also an Eventer apparently! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgJ36Ttz1OU
 
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JFTD, I like the fact that you have pointed out that its lack of experience and knowledge that can make first timers stuggle.

Its the asking when not sure or the research your willing to put in (no matter your experience) we all 'know' our horses but sometimes need advice :)
 
Sherbie said:
JFTD, I like the fact that you have pointed out that its lack of experience and knowledge that can make first timers stuggle.

Its the asking when not sure or the research your willing to put in (no matter your experience) we all 'know' our horses but sometimes need advice :)
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Well put! We can all learn from someone. I really dislike when people ask for help on this site and get shot down. Every experienced person has been a first time owner, I'm sure you've all got rugs wrong and fed the wrong thing or taken the wrong approach to a naughty horse. That's how you get experience.
 
An interesting thread, with an unpleasant under current...

Young people learn by modeling, can't see much evidence of that here. 'Cocky' teenagers are often lacking in confidence, no matter what they say or do.

I have always found the phrase 'Do as you would be done by' useful to follow...
 
Sherbie said:
JFTD, I like the fact that you have pointed out that its lack of experience and knowledge that can make first timers stuggle.

Its the asking when not sure or the research your willing to put in (no matter your experience) we all 'know' our horses but sometimes need advice :)
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Oh indeed - but it's also about taking the advice given graciously! There are many first time owners and non-owners on here who have my utmost respect. The comments I made there relate specifically to that poster who seems incapable of listening to advice. It's not about doing things wrong - it's about accepting that you did something stupid and it's probably as well not to try it again :rolleyes:
 
DragonSlayer said:
An interesting thread, with an unpleasant under current...

Young people learn by modeling, can't see much evidence of that here. 'Cocky' teenagers are often lacking in confidence, no matter what they say or do.

I have always found the phrase 'Do as you would be done by' useful to follow...
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Agree with this ^^^
 
JFTD said:
Oh indeed - but it's also about taking the advice given graciously! There are many first time owners and non-owners on here who have my utmost respect. The comments I made there relate specifically to that poster who seems incapable of listening to advice.
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I'm very good at listening to advise thanks, I just refuse to listen to people who are rude to me. When my threads turn nasty I actually get a lot of nice PMs from various people who say the same thing, they just have manners, are polite and kind.
 
Annielusian said:
I'm very good at listening to advise thanks, I just refuse to listen to people who are rude to me. When my threads turn nasty I actually get a lot of nice PMs from various people who say the same thing, they just have manners, are polite and kind.
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Unfortunately, if you only listen to those who sugar coat their words, you'll miss out on a great deal. Especially on here.
 
JFTD said:
Unfortunately, if you only listen to those who sugar coat their words, you'll miss out on a great deal. Especially on here.
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There's a difference between sugar coating and having manners.

Did I get a foal? No.
Did I, infact, get a horse at all? No. I'm loaning Ned first to get experience. If I feel I can't handle that, I'll be going back to just riding.
I'm learning how de-spook Ned and it's working very well.
I'm trying to work on my jumping position and my hands.
Actually, I think I'm doing everything that I've been suggested on here, you just don't see 'behind the scenes' as it were.

I'm very obviously still learning, as are we all. If we were a little more helpful towards each other and not so rude and mean, this would be a much nicer place.
 
JFTD said:
Oh indeed - but it's also about taking the advice given graciously! There are many first time owners and non-owners on here who have my utmost respect. The comments I made there relate specifically to that poster who seems incapable of listening to advice. It's not about doing things wrong - it's about accepting that you did something stupid and it's probably as well not to try it again :rolleyes:
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JFTD - didn't you, quite recently, rip to shreds a new poster who asked for advise on their young horse after just a couple of replies on her thread? And when others joined you with the sarcasm and amusement you carried it on until one or two people actually stuck up for her and you ended up apologising?

It would seem that your views on other forum members are to be held as gospel often without empathy or understanding, yet am I right in thinking that you are only in your early twenties?

Life is not always so black and white - there are many shades of grey.
 
QueenOfCadence said:
I hate cocky, know-it-all adults. So we're fair:)
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I don't have the energy to hate anybody (I'm too bloody exhausted) but this: Q of C, you're a talented girl, and very articulate for one so young. You also have strong opinions, which I think is particularly important in SA where females are, quite frankly, not necessarily treated as they are in Europe or elsewhere.

But FFS please wear your damn hat, girl! We ALL felt invincible at your age :D, and even now I have to remind myself to put the damn hat on, but I have been to enough funerals and visited enough people in ICU over the years..... please?
 
black_horse said:
If you want to be cyber stalked, just post your name below :D
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Black_horse, with respect, I don't think it's fair of you to have outed the young girl earlier. Is it possible to go back and delete the link that identifies her?

Like her, I live in South Africa, which has a relatively small equestrian community. It also isn't the safest place on the planet, as it happens.

She is a minor child, and if you have been "clever" enough to effectively identify her on a public forum, then I don't think your conduct is very responsible. Sorry to be blunt. She's a kid, and if she is not especially sensible on the internet, then I think the more experienced forumites should protect her identity rather than exploit her by exposing her.
 
Ravenwood said:
JFTD - didn't you, quite recently, rip to shreds a new poster who asked for advise on their young horse after just a couple of replies on her thread? And when others joined you with the sarcasm and amusement you carried it on until one or two people actually stuck up for her and you ended up apologising?

It would seem that your views on other forum members are to be held as gospel often without empathy or understanding, yet am I right in thinking that you are only in your early twenties?
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Nope, not early 20s ;) I don't expect others to "hold my views on other forum members as gospel" at all - that would be a very peculiar view point - you are welcome to make your own minds. I am not alone in my views, I am certain, but I wouldn't presume to dictate your opinion as I wouldn't allow your opinions to influence my own ;)

I think your analysis of that situation is unfair. A number of posters had posted sarcastic comments prior to my involvement in the thread. I did entertain a few jokes with other posters, and I did suggest the poster was unwise in their choice of purchase. And on the strength of the information they had at that point provided, I stand by those opinions. However, as the thread developed, I came to reaslise that the poster in question was not, as it appeared at first, away with the fairies - they had simply not been very clear about their intentions in the first place. As such I apologised for the assumptions I had made. I am always willing to admit that I am wrong. I would love for the poster in question here to prove me wrong too ;)
 
Ancient Hacker said:
She is a minor child, and if you have been "clever" enough to effectively identify her on a public forum, then I don't think your conduct is very responsible. Sorry to be blunt. She's a kid, and if she is not especially sensible on the internet, then I think the more experienced forumites should protect her identity rather than exploit her by exposing her.
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I think BH's point was that she has made herself very identifiable, which was highly unwise... Unfortunately, there's nothing on this thread which anyone couldn't work out for themselves if they had ill-intent towards QoC.
 
Ancient Hacker said:
She is a minor child, and if you have been "clever" enough to effectively identify her on a public forum, then I don't think your conduct is very responsible.
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The poster has her real name in her profile, and has mentioned her horse's full name and posted links to her riding school. I feel the irresponsible one here is QoC (and her parents). Was this the place to point it out, probably not but if you do post too many recognisable details it is inevitable that someone will work out who you are sadly :(
 
JFTD said:
I think BH's point was that she has made herself very identifiable, which was highly unwise... Unfortunately, there's nothing on this thread which anyone couldn't work out for themselves if they had ill-intent towards QoC.
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Agreed, JFTD, but we shouldn't make it easier for anyone out there the trace a forum member, irrespective of whether he/she's been a bit silly....
(Meantime, I can only dream of what it must be like to ride bareback in the snow... love your pics, and most envious!)

Edited to add: I'm clearly a bit slow, I live in the same country and hadn't managed to work out who she is :eek:
 
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