Famous stallions' quirks

Major late comer here!

Most people I have spoken to about Sandro Hit refer to him as Sandro *****....apparently very tricky which he passes down.

I looked after a filly by Erhaab couple years ago, still have the hoofprint on my leg to prove it! Jet black filly with a wicked attitude and got a couple girls off on the yard. She had her occasional sweet moments though.

Every Opposition horse I have ever come across likes to 'wave' to the crowds :P Though most would go to the end of the earth for you if you got them on side.

Looked after a Bandmaster gelding a few years back, very handsome chap but bone idle as hell.

The couple of De Niro fillys I know are insanely pretty and know it! They are stubborn, oppionated but also seem to be very quick learners and utterly float.

I used to own a Great Palm gelding. He was a complete sweety but quite sensitive. Once he understood what was being asked of him he would try his heart out for you. Had one hell of a pop too, I only sold him as had to pay for an op on my other horse.
 
TheoryX1 said:
Sorry to hijack thread, but has anyone had experience of Samber offspring. I've already posted that we have one of his grand-daughters, by Hercorose. Our mare is the spitting image of Samber, and he seems to be well known, but apart from her half brother, I havent come across too many myself. Our little mare has his colouring, prescence, paces and is just a lovely little person - the perfect teenagers event horse. Just wondered about others if anyone has had any experience of his offspring.
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My coloured mare (in my sig) is a Samber grandaughter. She is the most talented and beautiful horse I have ever owned but also had an attitude problem to go with it sometimes!!!
 
Has anyone got any experiences of Devil's Jump offspring? I have a nice youngster by him who is a real sweetie to handle and ride in general and shows bags of talent......BUT there is always a but ;) she seems to get a little bit wild when it comes to jumping!!!!
 
rhino said:
I rode one, didn't own him. Lovely enthusiastic little horse, not very 'cuddly' in the stable but a real worker :D
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thanks for getting back to me, this ride's only 15.2hh one of the smallest i've been offered to bsja since i've been on horses! :') but has a huge jump, was your ride small?
 
GCC said:
thanks for getting back to me, this ride's only 15.2hh one of the smallest i've been offered to bsja since i've been on horses! :') but has a huge jump, was your ride small?
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He was about 15.3/16hh so pretty small. Big enough for me though! He didn't have the hugest paces and was quite 'ponyish' to jump, but was fab in speed classes and jump offs :D
 
To throw a bit of a spanner in the Catherston comments so far: I have a Dazzler baby. She's very bright and quite talented which occasionally leads to some interesting conversations, but... she's actually very sweet and sensible the vast majority of the time, seems to be doing fine with amateur little me, and certainly doesn't have sweet itch.
 
I have a Numero Uno gelding (out of a Darco x Jasper mare) who is lovely but very cheeky- he has to have a sign outside his stable to warn people not to leave ANYTHING within reach or he will play with it and destroy it. His favourite trick is if people leave a bale of shavings too close because that can make a really fun mess :eek:And he has such a long neck (he is 17.1hh) that he can reach an awfully long way. I have lost track of the number of schooling whips he has managed to reach and destroy. He also sticks his tongue out a lot, both in the stable and when ridden and just loves being the centre of attention. He is very fast and careful to jump but a bit chicken as he just hates hitting fences. Anyone else have experience of Numero Unos? He was bought to bring on and sell but 5yrs later is still definitely not going anywhere :D
 
angelish said:
not as famous as some on here but i wouldn't touch anything by orlando (the colored by oberon) helped a friend sell a mare by him , very tricky and on doing a little snooping found a few others by him the same, a few of them also developed sacoids although i know there not meant to be hireditary
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I had a mare on loan by Orlando (the coloured by Oberon) and at first she was very tricky and rude when she arrived but after finding out she relied on a firm hand became a different horse. Very pleasant to work with and willing to learn. She was a gentle giant on the ground and slightly hot headed when mounted. Extremly talent mare with lots of potential but shortly after having her found out something wasn't right with her and after x-rays was diagnosed with kissing spines.

Also had a pony with similar characteristics but would be very trusting of one person and that person only when handling him. I was the only person ever able to stay on his back for longer than five minutes which probably wasn't his fault due to also having kissing spines. He was out of Voltaire and heard that his offspring often have the problem of developing it.
 
emmah said:
Has anyone got any experiences of Devil's Jump offspring? I have a nice youngster by him who is a real sweetie to handle and ride in general and shows bags of talent......BUT there is always a but ;) she seems to get a little bit wild when it comes to jumping!!!!
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I worked with a mare a couple years ago by him. She was sweet and I wouldn't call her nasty, she was just very dippy and occasionally would have funny moments of 'I cant do this' and really dig her heals in/rear. She had nice paces and a decent pop but her attitude held her back. I don't recall her being mad to jump, just stubborn at times!
 
quizzie said:
Well, I have one with High Roller (Cavalier) sire, out of a RamiroZ mare....either the best or the worst of two strong willed lines!!. He is a lovely horse on the ground & very talented....but not always particularly easy....has a lot of his own very powerful ideas! But I think ,if I can continue to gain his trust, he might be the best I have ridden.

My other horse is by Master Imp.....as someone on HHO once said..."don't pick a fight with a Master Imp..they will fight you back till hell freezes over!"

Mind you....the fact that I bought both of them after riding homebreds for some years, may say more about MY insanity (hereditary???) than anything else......Maybe we should have a thread about human inherited traits.....or maybe not!
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My Master Imp horse (out of an ID mare) was VERY quirky and sharp as a 5/6 year old, he was far too much for me as a novice amateur but we continued through and now (at 11) he is the sweetest most genuine horse ever. He still has the occasional little quirk but I am more to blame for those than his genetics.

I had a mare by Animo previous to him, she was a super fast learner, we progressed very quickly through the grades in dressage- she was unbelievably athletic and you did something once and it was there forever!! However, she would either win with 70% or be so stupid coming off the lorry you couldn’t get on. It took over a year to be able to hack her safely and she wouldn’t turn out for longer than a couple of hours. Nearly every professional we came across said she was a pros horse, and in the right hands I am sure she could have been amazing. I loved her dearly but she completely destroyed my confidence.
 
rhino said:
He was about 15.3/16hh so pretty small. Big enough for me though! He didn't have the hugest paces and was quite 'ponyish' to jump, but was fab in speed classes and jump offs :D
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yes, this one reminds me of a big pony quite short strided, but can't wait to get him out and see what he's like! :D
 
Another late comer - that took some reading but was very interesting.
Think someone asked about negros. From what I've heard of most negros they are forward, willing but sharp sometimes very sharp. Canter is generally their strongest pace but trot is most often correct and active with a good hind leg. I have a 5 1/2 year old by negretto (think someone else on here has got one too, would be interesting to compare) and to be honest he seems to follow suit with what I've seen and heard of the negro line. He is very, very (maybe to much so if thats possible) forward and willing,canter is strongest pace yet all 3 paces are correct and active but he is sharp which I personally look for in a horse. My trainer has a direct descendant of negro and to be honest he is very similar to mine, maybe with slightly more attitude.

I personally would definitely have one by him if I got the opportunity, heres hoping!
 
Hi Mavis007, I know a Numero Uno gelding who is just the same as yours, he belongs to my sj trainer. "Ernie" spends his life dreaming up cheeky new tricks, loves sticking his tongue out, loves playing with the yard dogs and will pick up/ trash anything left within reach. He's a very careful jumper and hates to touch a pole, a bit sharp to ride, but a very sweet boy.:D
 
My Graheeb 6 year old is really sweet to deal with, scopey and generally has a 'can do' attitude, although she can be sometimes be quirky and a little hot. She's not particularly plain, good looking actually.

Does anyone have a Romany Rye (TB) horse?

Mines nothing to look at, nor moves fantastically, but I've never sat on such a scopey, powerful jump, jumps literally anything and is the soppiest mare. Highly strung and very strong.
 
kerryflower said:
Thanks for that :) Mine is only 6 and to be fair is a very cool dude and in general, wuite mature. I mean he goes out hacking alone like an old pro and has successfully done his first season eventing at be90 and now working to elementary bd. Interesting ou say slow to mature as physically he does look like he does need to grow into himself a bit and def still has toddler ginger ninja tantrums!! I have heard good things about Doruto lines and the Wellington line but just wanted to knwo if anyone had more info :) Did yours have a late growth spurt??
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Yes,2 or so inches from 6-8 and has filled out immensely in the last year.
 
We have a few May hills through all of them had talent in varying degrees but big attitude, a bit like a hot air ballon and could deflate rather quickly. That said if you got in their brains they would work for you.
 
WellyBaggins said:
Facinating about Tobougg, we have a gelding by him and he is the most cocky, sure of himself TB I have ever come across :)

Any knowledge on Polish Precedent? :)
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Aces_High said:
I love Polish Precendent Colts! I used to ride a lot of them - very cocky, sweet and great temperaments which is strange as Rakti was incredibly difficult. I quarantined Pilsudski and he was a complete gent.

What is your Tobougg's dam sire?
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I'm 99.9999% sure that the little mare staying at mine at the mo is by Polish Precedent and she has a temperament to die for. She is too sweet for words!

I had a wonderful mare by Augerman whom I lost last year age 25. Funnily enough my farrier had shod Augerman back in his day and apparently Star was very similar to her sire. She was *erm* strong minded, bold and didn't suffer fools but if you had her on side she had the heart of a lion. I loved to see Dunauger in action as I could really see the family resemblance. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has an Augerman horse?
 
louisem said:
Sorry I'm late....
Belgian sire 'Unique' tends to donate his breathing issues
'Darco' cold backs and/or girthing problems as youngsters
'Pion' and sometimes 'Jokinal de Bornival' blood, sweet itch
'Lys de Darmen' dares to give windsuckers and weavers
However all of the above have given many good horses,just some of them have had a few 'extra' options......
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Interesting to hear the Darco line can be cold backed as youngsters, my 4yo has Darco way back in her pedigree and we suspect she may be a little cold backed. She also has Nimmerdor five generations back on both sides, all the ones I have had with Nimmerdor have had a bit of a nappy side to them, others I have seen at sales look to have "attitude". From my personal experience I would no longer want anything with Nimmerdor lines which rules out rather a lot!

My Ramiro Z descendant is an absolute gentleman but can get a little worried but is the kindest most loving horse.
 
4faults said:
Haha I have to agree with the Ramiro Z as I am currently on my third mare of his lines.

My Broadstone Landmark boy is kind with an amazing personality, very cheeky and loveable.

Does anyone have experience with Concorde babies?
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ihave a concorde although no longer a baby, very sensitive, loyal, honest worker who will try anything i ask!
 
kerilli said:
I've heard exactly the same from someone else with a very tricky Jumbo, hope my girl won't turn out like that.

I forgot, I have a Stonegrove Ace mare, and have been told that he was the sweetest stallion to handle, and passes that on. Sure enough, she has a lovely temperament. Was also told that he threw solid chestnut males or elegant bay fillies - yes, she's the latter, spot on.

TarrSteps, here's a good one: a friend had a mare and stallion, bred them to other horses, and to each other. Neither parent crib-bit or windsucked, nor did any of their offspring by or out of other horses, but that particular cross always produced mares and colts who did both. Hmmmm.
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My Stongrove Ace mare is chestnut not a single wbit of white, quirky mare but when she trust you i think she would take on the world, throws decent jumpers and dressage youngsters too!

Celano are sweet tempered as well, work hard, very level and try to please.

Granduer throws old stamp of warmblood mare i have is gutsy, very brave and in you face, but very loving, always top dog though!
 
dieseldog said:
I have heard Cavalier Royale's are sharp, as are Samber horses, can't be many of those left around though. I would never buy a Catherston horse as they are a Pro's ride. It's the business is supposed to be sharp too and Carnival Drum. But sharp might just mean not an amateur horse.

I have heard of a stallion in Devon that throws foals with one eye. :eek:

I used to have a 2nd generation Ramiro Z too, he was a total saint.
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I have a cracking Cavalier Royal x Cloverhill mare, competed to a decent level, very uncomplicated but a little buzzy, would have another
 
Cortez said:
Going back a bit, Euphemisms were all nutjobs, and nasty with it.
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Had one years ago, she was a grumpy sod and i felt i got lumbered with a elephant, was glad to sell, my friend wasnt to happy!!! it would eat a house to and never look really well!!
 
xLucyGx said:
Does anyone have a horse by Olympic lux? My mares by him, she's a poppet and very talented but likes to do bare minimum if she can get away with it. :rolleyes:
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Lux produces fab stallion horses but i find the mares make better broodmares, i would happily snap one up!!
 
xLucyGx said:
Does anyone have a horse by Olympic lux? My mares by him, she's a poppet and very talented but likes to do bare minimum if she can get away with it. :rolleyes:
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Lux produces fab stallion horses but i find the mares make better broodmares, i would happily snap one up!! Olympic Lux dont now much about!!
 
SamandMonty said:
My boy is a Darco Grandbaby but never had any girthing issue or coldbackedness?? (not sure thats a word lol).
Anyone know anything about Winningmood as thats his daddy?
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My foals dad is by Winningmood, and i can honestly say i would have put him in my car had he fit!!!
HUge horse, with donkey ears and a pussy cat temp, and so chilled and laid back, yet now under saddle and loves his work keen, ridable and scopey!
 
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