ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
Who isn't on it, it's probably a shorter list?
Feeding advice & opinions for TB!?
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Who isn't on it, it's probably a shorter list?
shortstuff99
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Who said the gif was just for you? Not sure what it would need reporting for either....
milliepops
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CD this thread really isn't all about you. Spare a thought for the OP who asked a perfectly reasonable question which several of us have tried to help with. They don't want to wade through endless diatribes to find the pertinent info.
Its OK. I know I'm already on the ignore list. ?
Its OK. I know I'm already on the ignore list. ?
milliepops
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Its interesting because I think CD has possibly missed the point that horses evolved to browse on scrubby vegetation not be biological lawn mowers or haylage dustbins. So while ad-lib grass or hay is fine for some metabolisms, the type of ad lib grazing that native types are designed for is picking over much sparser stuff.
In an ideal world the good doers would have ad lib access to really poor stuff which would probably max out at 2% bodyweight and then everything is in equilibrium.
Few of us can provide that though.
We all know that the average little pony left to a round bale of haylage will eat until it goes off its feet. So ad lib isn't possible because its the wrong kind of forage for that regime.
I think that's got lost in the long rambling posts. Or was never understood in the first place.
In an ideal world the good doers would have ad lib access to really poor stuff which would probably max out at 2% bodyweight and then everything is in equilibrium.
Few of us can provide that though.
We all know that the average little pony left to a round bale of haylage will eat until it goes off its feet. So ad lib isn't possible because its the wrong kind of forage for that regime.
I think that's got lost in the long rambling posts. Or was never understood in the first place.
Tihamandturkey
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Are the forum monitors even active????
milliepops
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Its not a moderated forum so I guess they will look at any reported content when someone is next available.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
We don't have any. They respond only to reports. I have reported CD and suggested for his own sake that something is done.
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AmyMay
Situation normal
I actually have no idea what you’re banging on about really. But....
Ad lib, is ad lib. Feeding as per scientific guidelines to restrict (manage, maximise) intake is, well, feeding within scientific guidelines to restrict (manage, maximise) intake.
Feeding can be easy, or it can be complicated - it’s up to the consumer to decide which route to go down. For me it’s always been relatively simple. Grass, hay (often restricted - no 2,4,6 whatever % for me), hard fee as required. Often Alfa based as I love it as a food source - however a lot of the forum would disagree. That’s their entitlement and I don’t remember having a meltdown about it.
When I’ve wanted advice about my horses management I’ve taken advice from several different places. Including my vet and farrier, both excellent and knowledgeable equestrians.
Posters often recommended getting advice from a vet because quite sensibly it’s a really good place for a novice owner to get advice from.
Ad lib, is ad lib. Feeding as per scientific guidelines to restrict (manage, maximise) intake is, well, feeding within scientific guidelines to restrict (manage, maximise) intake.
Feeding can be easy, or it can be complicated - it’s up to the consumer to decide which route to go down. For me it’s always been relatively simple. Grass, hay (often restricted - no 2,4,6 whatever % for me), hard fee as required. Often Alfa based as I love it as a food source - however a lot of the forum would disagree. That’s their entitlement and I don’t remember having a meltdown about it.
When I’ve wanted advice about my horses management I’ve taken advice from several different places. Including my vet and farrier, both excellent and knowledgeable equestrians.
Posters often recommended getting advice from a vet because quite sensibly it’s a really good place for a novice owner to get advice from.
Tihamandturkey
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Ah right thanks milliepops and ycbm
AmyMay
Situation normal
Women! Know your place!!!!
Tihamandturkey
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Jeez CD - you really are a piece of work ?
milliepops
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Wow ????
Speechless ?
I must tell my husband what a fool he is to trust me with not only a car, but also the horsebox.
Eta. He pointed out that he also lets me drive the tractors. He really is playing with fire here ?
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milliepops
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Oh we had another one for hho bingo, namely someone who can't stay away yet rants about how awful the forum is 
SaddlePsych'D
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I generally just observe these interactions (and try to learn from the actually useful information) but... yikes!
ETA - I hope the OP is not put off by how this thread has gone! The forum really is a great resource alongside (of course) involving qualified professionals where appropriate.
ETA - I hope the OP is not put off by how this thread has gone! The forum really is a great resource alongside (of course) involving qualified professionals where appropriate.
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CrimsonDivine
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Might I also add the constant negative and provokative responses by these members is no coincidence either.
windand rain
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Couldn't agree more think it is possibly the wierdest post yet for misinformation and rudeness I feel for the OP who sadly has had an easy answer derailed by ignorance and rudeness
shortstuff99
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If this is how all of your interactions with women go then I've got something to tell you about the common factor.....
And educate in what way? I have a PhD, is that enough education?
And educate in what way? I have a PhD, is that enough education?
SaddlePsych'D
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Yes I just updated my post to say I hope the OP has not been put off. I'm sure they were not expecting this!
shortstuff99
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I hope she doesn't either, I think most posters try their best to be helpful.
CrimsonDivine
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The most best suited answer was already provided before all this but unfortunately most of you simply wanted to troll about it , and still continue to do so even after I myself was told to stop.. Word of the day here; hypocrital. Which is what actually caused this mess in the first place. Though fact of the matter is most are too blind too see that and will continue to do so until a moderator steps in I suppose. Fortunately I won't be contributing to that cause any further as I need to go to bed as I feel my horses needs are more important than this childish nonsense thus I feel a need to get a good night's rest as I get up early to tend to them. On that note I bid you all good night. I really hope a moderator does infact look into this and sees you all for what you really are. How some of you have slipped under the radar for so long, judging by date joined and comment count, is really beyond me.
scats
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Sorry that your thread has turned out like this OP.
From your pictures, yes he is a little poor, but I certainly wouldn’t be panicking just yet given the time of year. What is your grazing like?
From your pictures, yes he is a little poor, but I certainly wouldn’t be panicking just yet given the time of year. What is your grazing like?
Elno
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Trying to get the thread back on track for OP's sake...
Just saw the photos. He looks really lovely! ? Perhaps a bit on the thin side, but nothing good grazing and some quality hard feed, alfalfa and oil won't sort out.
I'm not all that familiar with the UK brands you have, but if I remember correctly a lot of people here where I live with thoroughbreds really like D&H Build up to put condition on fast. The only downside is that it's quit starchy and does blow some of the horses brains out so proceed with caution ? I prefer more low starch and oil-approach myself like I wrote before, but horses for courses like the saying goes ?
Just saw the photos. He looks really lovely! ? Perhaps a bit on the thin side, but nothing good grazing and some quality hard feed, alfalfa and oil won't sort out.
I'm not all that familiar with the UK brands you have, but if I remember correctly a lot of people here where I live with thoroughbreds really like D&H Build up to put condition on fast. The only downside is that it's quit starchy and does blow some of the horses brains out so proceed with caution ? I prefer more low starch and oil-approach myself like I wrote before, but horses for courses like the saying goes ?
Ched9310
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Christ I was only asking about chaff ?
I have scanned through the dribble (once I realised how long it was ?).
I've had some really good advice/opinions & I have a plan, pretty much based on what I had already researched & advice from some feed specialist, but some personal experiences has reconfirmed that ?? Before & after pictures to follow in the coming months!
Thanks everyone!
p.s can you delete threads? ??
I have scanned through the dribble (once I realised how long it was ?).
I've had some really good advice/opinions & I have a plan, pretty much based on what I had already researched & advice from some feed specialist, but some personal experiences has reconfirmed that ?? Before & after pictures to follow in the coming months!
Thanks everyone!
p.s can you delete threads? ??
Debbie25670
Active Member
I use alfa oil, my thoroughbred goes well, no difference, they are all different, start small and work up
Ched9310
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Only a few weeks difference, but definitely an improvement. Excuse the patchy coat, he’s going a lot lighter than I thought he would! ? 
PinkvSantaboots
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He looks much better and more healthier all round well done, even his back where his saddle was obviously too tight looks better
Goldenstar
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Looking much better don’t let him get cold ( it wastes energy ) and he will be fine well done.
Ched9310
Member
Thanks both ?
He’s still got a full neck rug on at night, but has had some naked days whilst it’s been sunny. Luckily he’s only opposite the house so I can pop back & fourth easy.
He’s still got a full neck rug on at night, but has had some naked days whilst it’s been sunny. Luckily he’s only opposite the house so I can pop back & fourth easy.
paddi22
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I wouldn't be worried about the weight going on the most recent picture, when he muscles up and grass comes through he will be different again in a few weeks.
We get skinny tbs and rescues in here all the time and we have a really simple feeding system that we worked out with a nutritionist. When they first come we put them on a 10 day detox to help clear out bad bacteria and reintroduce good probiotics. so we just feed speedibeet plus the detox scoop, and a cupful of Tesco rapeseed oil plus ad lib hay. After that they go on speedibeet, plus a good balancer, and the rapeseed oil. if they need more bloom and energy they get oats added, if they need more protein they get a cupful of soya been meal. apart from that they have constant access to good hay.
the differences have been amazing. before that I had been pumping commercial feeds into them and spending a fortune. when you really dig into what is in commercial feeds it's eye-opening, so much of it is pure rubbish. the new system is so easy and the results have been amazing. the photo below was taken four days after the horse coming off the detox. it's saved me a fortune on money as well.
We get skinny tbs and rescues in here all the time and we have a really simple feeding system that we worked out with a nutritionist. When they first come we put them on a 10 day detox to help clear out bad bacteria and reintroduce good probiotics. so we just feed speedibeet plus the detox scoop, and a cupful of Tesco rapeseed oil plus ad lib hay. After that they go on speedibeet, plus a good balancer, and the rapeseed oil. if they need more bloom and energy they get oats added, if they need more protein they get a cupful of soya been meal. apart from that they have constant access to good hay.
the differences have been amazing. before that I had been pumping commercial feeds into them and spending a fortune. when you really dig into what is in commercial feeds it's eye-opening, so much of it is pure rubbish. the new system is so easy and the results have been amazing. the photo below was taken four days after the horse coming off the detox. it's saved me a fortune on money as well.
