Help...quick... I have covid ?

[EstherYoung]

I'm pretty sure I had it back in March (but no generally available tests available then obvs).

A couple of points to note:
- Although mine was 'mild', it took well over three months to properly shake it. I had phases of exhaustion, breathlessness and tachycardia for some time afterwards
- If mild cases turn bad its generally around day 8. It's an unpleasant roller-coaster of a disease. So even if you're OK now, you might not be in a few days.

You do need a plan B for looking after your horses in case this or anything else stops you doing them. And I agree with the others - either you stay off the yard (particularly shared areas) completely, or the liveries stay away for the duration of your isolation.

 

[Upthecreek]

I did read the comments and I did read people saying the footpath should be closed !

Well you didn’t read them properly or you wouldn’t have made such flippant comments about catching Covid from walking past an infected persons house. Nobody said people should be prevented from walking past a house where somebody lives that has tested positive, which is what you said. We said you can’t have people walking on a footpath that goes through the yard if the OP is in the yard with her horses.

 

[doodle]

Since the OP has flounced off because she didn’t get the “correct” answer there is little point in carrying on this thread.

The virus will continue to spread and kill. At best we will have another full lock down that could have been avoided if people were responsible and isolate. Just if you have mild symptoms dosnt mean whoever catches it from you will also get mild symptoms. How would you feel if someone connected to you died with covid?? Liveries can do their own horses for a week and club in to doing your horses at the same time.

 

[dogatemysalad]

The worrying aspect is that many people don't seem to understand what self isolation means. With modern lifestyles, where people socialise, travel and work in close proximity with others on a scale that was unheard of a few decades ago, we should have had a public health education programme about infection control long before the current pandemic.
Schools and work places should have already been educating the public. Scientists knew it was a case of when, not if, we have a major pandemic.

 

[Winters100]

Since the OP has flounced off because she didn’t get the “correct” answer there is little point in carrying on this thread.

The virus will continue to spread and kill. At best we will have another full lock down that could have been avoided if people were responsible and isolate. Just if you have mild symptoms dosnt mean whoever catches it from you will also get mild symptoms. How would you feel if someone connected to you died with covid?? Liveries can do their own horses for a week and club in to doing your horses at the same time.

I agree, very sad for those who will lose family and friends as a result, but as long as everyone views themselves as an 'exception' there cannot be any improvement in the situation without a full lockdown. I feel very sorry for OP, it is not her fault that she is sick, and is a very difficult situation, but ultimately it is for her to stay away from other people, this is an obligation to society, not just to her liveries. A footpath running through the yard makes it worse, but clearly it is for her to avoid this area. In all honesty I find it a bit surprising that there is not a plan in place in case of a broken leg or some other event.

 

[southerncomfort]

Medics have stated that IF, and its a big IF, a person gets covid a second time then the memory system in the body will kick in and in the worst case they may get it for 1 or 2 days without symptoms
The memory system is not the same as having active antibodies so do not get the two confused
Memory system works the same for other things such as measles etc where the original strain has not mutated

I will try and find a link to that unless another member finds it first
Found one of them = https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52446965

Thanks Roger, that's reassuring.

 

[Upthecreek]

Since the OP has flounced off because she didn’t get the “correct” answer there is little point in carrying on this thread.

The virus will continue to spread and kill. At best we will have another full lock down that could have been avoided if people were responsible and isolate. Just if you have mild symptoms dosnt mean whoever catches it from you will also get mild symptoms. How would you feel if someone connected to you died with covid?? Liveries can do their own horses for a week and club in to doing your horses at the same time.

It does seem to be quite a common occurrence that posters ask for advice and then accuse people of being nasty if the comments aren’t to their liking and disappear from the thread they started. That aside, I do think carrying on the thread in her absence has been beneficial because evidently there are still people who don’t understand how to self-isolate.

 

[Sandales]

If liveries have been at the yard do they have to self isolate anyway? Are yards subject to track and trace?

 

[lannerch]

I suspect although she’s disappeared she’s still reading, if I’m wrong I apologise however she will never read my apology . I have confidence on reflection she will do the right thing .

 

[ROG]

why do we need to isolate NOW because the flu virus/pneumonia is currently a worse killer than covid in the uk and we do not isolate for that ????????

Please keep this in perspective - in the uk we have an average of 1500 deaths A DAY of which currently very few are covid - I think the current covid death average is about 1% of all deaths over the past few weeks and the flu/pneumonia is about 2%

Currently the average uk death rate is below the 5 year average because the virus killed many earlier this year who would be dying now - the true excess uk death rate will not be known until about easter 2021

 

[Upthecreek]

why do we need to isolate NOW because the flu virus/pneumonia is currently a worse killer than covid in the uk and we do not isolate for that ????????

Please keep this in perspective - in the uk we have an average of 1500 deaths A DAY of which currently very few are covid - I think the current covid death average is about 1% of all deaths over the past few weeks and the flu/pneumonia is about 2%

Currently the average uk death rate is below the 5 year average because the virus killed many earlier this year who would be dying now - the true excess uk death rate will not be known until about easter 2021

The current covid death rate is irrelevant, it’s the increase in infection rates that is so worrying because that will lead to a surge of deaths from covid in the weeks to come. We do not isolate for flu viruses because there are vaccines available for that to protect the most vulnerable in society. We do not yet have a vaccine for covid. It also seems that it is quite rare for flu viruses to kill ‘healthy’ people with no underlying health conditions or clinical vulnerability, hence why not everybody is offered the annual flu vaccination. Covid on the other hand has made many ‘healthy’ people very ill or killed them.

 

[southerncomfort]

But how high would the death rate be if we'd never bothered with lockdown, with sanitising our hands, with regularly wiping everything down with antibacterial wipes, wearing masks or with social distancing and self isolation?

It would have been utterly horrific.

The reason this virus is a problem is because it is highly infectious, much more so than flu etc, and their is no vaccine. Their may never be a vaccine. So the only way to prevent our morturies filling up is to follow the procedures above.

I don't care if its only older or already sick people dying. They are all someone's much loved relative.

 

[splashgirl45]

if you are still reading OP, you need to look after yourself as this virus can have very unpleasant long lasting effects so if you could turn your horses out and maybe get the liveries to hay and water them, you could stroll out after everyone has gone, check your horses are ok and then go in and REST....if you keep working through you may end up by being very ill.. i understand that you want to do your own horses but they will survive if given food and water by the liveries. please dont think its a witch hunt, i am sure everyone is posting with the best intentions...

 

[shortstuff99]

why do we need to isolate NOW because the flu virus/pneumonia is currently a worse killer than covid in the uk and we do not isolate for that ????????

Please keep this in perspective - in the uk we have an average of 1500 deaths A DAY of which currently very few are covid - I think the current covid death average is about 1% of all deaths over the past few weeks and the flu/pneumonia is about 2%

Currently the average uk death rate is below the 5 year average because the virus killed many earlier this year who would be dying now - the true excess uk death rate will not be known until about easter 2021

To be honest they're not bothered about people getting it per se, what they are trying to do is make sure that everyone who needs hospital help will have the space to get it. If everyone gets sick with a novel viruses all at once it could get to the stage where you just leave people to die and don't bother trying to help. Surely no one wants that?

 

[doodle]

I agree, very sad for those who will lose family and friends as a result, but as long as everyone views themselves as an 'exception' there cannot be any improvement in the situation without a full lockdown.

Yes this really annoys me. All the reports in the news along the lines of isolation has been MUCH worse for me because of x y and z. And this part of society and that say how awful it has been for them. I can’t possibly isolate because of this and that.

No. It has been crap for everyone. No one is better or worse than the next person and each person has had their own individual circumstances.

But because of the attitude that they can’t or won’t isolate people have lost their lives. It is as simple as that.

 

[twiggy2]

Well you didn’t read them properly or you wouldn’t have made such flippant comments about catching Covid from walking past an infected persons house. Nobody said people should be prevented from walking past a house where somebody lives that has tested positive, which is what you said. We said you can’t have people walking on a footpath that goes through the yard if the OP is in the yard with her horses.

The thing is the OP should be isolating and not be on the yard after a positive test not the public footpath being closed.

 

[Flame_]

I hope your symptoms stay mild and you're feeling better soon (and get your liveries to do everything for you)

 

[lannerch]

Pneumonia also has a vaccination, as does flu , Covid on the other hand does not, and as already stated without lockdown and social distancing how many more would have died. Cannot believe someone suggested because people also die from flu and pneumonia ( far fewer people than die from Covid ) Covid is an overreaction . Additionally the flu season has not yet taken off so currently more people are still dying from Covid , so the comment more are currently dying from flu is definitely incorrect.

 

[spoo]

I hope you fell better soon.
BUT
You need to self isolate. At home. People are dying and you are leaving your house knowingly covid +ve. Completely irresponsible. What if one of your liveries caught it from you?

Would you want a horse with strangles coming onto your yard? NO. So use the same mindset.

 

[ROG]

It is hospitalisations and deaths that matter not infection rates so why does the Govt set so much by infection rates of which they do not know and will probably never know the true figure?????

Common sense and logic says any responses should be based on known facts

 

[Upthecreek]

It is hospitalisations and deaths that matter not infection rates so why does the Govt set so much by infection rates of which they do not know and will probably never know the true figure?????

Common sense and logic says any responses should be based on known facts

But surely without infection rates increasing the hospitalisation and death figures don’t increase? You can’t have one without the other.

 

[lannerch]

It is hospitalisations and deaths that matter not infection rates so why does the Govt set so much by infection rates of which they do not know and will probably never know the true figure?????

Common sense and logic says any responses should be based on known facts

Because an increase in infection rates leads to an increase in hospitalisation which eventually to an increase in deaths it’s the increase that is important not the actual number

 

[ycbm]

But surely without infection rates increasing the hospitalisation and death figures don’t increase? You can’t have one without the other.

You can if either treatment has got better or the virus has got weaker, or both. Viruses do generally get weaker. It's not in the interests of a virus to kill its host. And treatment has definitely got better.
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[PinkvSantaboots]

They will not close a footpath that is just ridiculous!!

 

[lannerch]

You can of either treatment has got better or the virus has got weaker, or both. Viruses do generally get weaker. It's not in the interests of a virus to kill its host. And treatment has definitely got better.
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Agreed but death rates are still increasing with an increase of infection rates , hopefully though never at the rate they were initially due to treatments getting more effective and as you say the virus getting weaker

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

I have just heard on the BBC News that any-one who who tests positive but doesn't self-isolate will be fined £1000. No mention of who is going to police it.

 

[Upthecreek]

You can of either treatment has got better or the virus has got weaker, or both. Viruses do generally get weaker. It's not in the interests of a virus to kill its host. And treatment has definitely got better.
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Completely agree, treatment has improved as knowledge has increased. That said my comment was factually correct; hospitalisation and death rates of Covid (or any other illness for that matter) cannot increase without infection rates increasing first. If nobody is infected nobody will need hospital treatment or die. If somebody is infected there will be a risk of them needing hospital treatment and dying. It’s great that treatment has improved, but not getting infected is the only way to guarantee you won’t be hospitalised or die from this virus.

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

The covid death rate is not correct

 

[lannerch]

The covid death rate is not correct

Maybe but the increase is always still a worry

 

[TPO]

I have just heard on the BBC News that any-one who who tests positive but doesn't self-isolate will be fined £1000. No mention of who is going to police it.

Just read that its £10,000?? That seems ridiculous. How much will that cost taking claims through court?

Apparently low income households forced to stay at home will get £500 too