HHO's "Bear" project pony...

[Michen]

I agree with just doing the op as soon as possible. At least, IMO, if you do the op you know that you tried the best option. It could go well, and if/when you do the op, I really wish the best for you and Bog.

I know the heat is concerning in the one leg, but if they're both a bit swollen, could it be the weather and lack of activity? I've noticed if my guy does more standing around than usual and it's particularly hot and humid (Idk your current weather) he stocks up a bit.

So he can’t have an op for a minimum of two more weeks anyway as he had a steroid injection. The legs seem sort of windgally?

I came down this am to find them both bloody in together! He’s trying to kill me with stress!!!Boggle is so respectful of fencing but it looks like he must have jumped. They are both immensely proud of themselves. I guess that answers whether they could ever be in a field together, they are definitely firm friends this morning.

Ignore Bear twisted muzzle I’m just relieved Boggle didn’t remove it that’s one silver lining.

Part of me just wants to ignore vet advice, shove him in field with Bear and look again in a month.

 

[Roxylola]

Liking because they're happy together which is rather lovely.
I'd try 48 hours box rest, if it gets better or worse then you know which is the better option til your 2 weeks is up

 

[hobo]

Same as Rox I have liked because the photo's are just beautiful. I will have to go back and check what has been happening since I last looked. They look like twins in the first photo.

 

[palo1]

Bummer No advice at all but they are enormously cute together and hopefully the two being together could possibly help Boggle. I think Roxylola's advice is good too. 48 hours to assess then a plan for the next couple of weeks. Horribly stressful situation but sometimes you have to ride these things out and just take things one step at a time.

 

[Wheels]

Aww look at them together! So cute

 

[Michen]

Bummer No advice at all but they are enormously cute together and hopefully the two being together could possibly help Boggle. I think Roxylola's advice is good too. 48 hours to assess then a plan for the next couple of weeks. Horribly stressful situation but sometimes you have to ride these things out and just take things one step at a time.

It makes me twitch to go against my vet though. And also nervous as he's not supposed to be in a big field even with the original injury for another month, he could get up some serious speed. That said jumping out and skidding around a small paddock isn't exactly helpful either is it!

 

[ycbm]

He's going to end up famous in a veterinary textbook at this rate!

Can the contrast xray be done sooner, Michen? That might give you a better idea what's going on. The op seems inevitable, if the specialist wants to try it, you're just not going to forgive yourself in future if you don't.

Given that he's not doing well on pen rest and is back in a box, cracking on with the diagnostics that will tell you whether the specialist will or won't operate seems like the best idea, if it's possible.

Then you can get the decision made and plan for the rehab.

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[palo1]

I had a horse like this once before - it can be very difficult to cope when everything they do is the opposite of what is required. I would certainly bring in for a couple of days to see where you are then. It is almost impossible to plan much further ahead I think though that is very frustrating. It's a good thing you love Boggle!!

 

[HashRouge]

They are so cute together!

I'm really sorry it's not going better with Boggle. I would definitely bring him in though. I know you feel guilty about it, but at least he has had some time out after his initial box rest and has had the chance to enjoy himself and be a horse. He sounds like he is fairly chilled in the stable and two weeks will fly by. I know it's rough, but fingers crossed it will be the best option.

 

[Michen]

He's going to end up famous in a veterinary textbook at this rate!

Can the contrast xray be done sooner, Michen? That might give you a better idea what's going on. The op seems inevitable, if the specialist wants to try it, you're just not going to forgive yourself in future if you don't.

Given that he's not doing well on pen rest and is back in a box, cracking on with the diagnostics that will tell you whether the specialist will or won't operate seems like the best idea, if it's possible.

Then you can get the decision made and plan for the rehab.

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He needs to go up to RCV for that I think, so I may as well tie it all in with a provisionally booked op... once he’s been scanned in 2 weeks (which I do feel is potentially pointless but my vet seems keen to scan and re assess).

 

[Ambers Echo]

So sorry, Michen. I also liked because the pictures are gorgeous. But if there was a broken heart button I'd have clicked that instead.

 

[Slightlyconfused]

Yes exactly. My own vet is equally brilliant. I rang him in absolute despair yesterday because of Boggle twitting around- sent him a trot up video and the lameness hasn't got worse so he says carry on turning him out if I can try and mitigate him being an idiot.

So I'll be going up to the yard about 8/9pm, doping him and then turning out. Then bringing him in by 6am before anyone else on the yard has been up. Yay Boggle, thanks for being such a turd. The alternative is he goes back on box rest but I really want him to have this time out for the next month especially if there's more box rest on the horizon for him.

I had to dope the spotty one when he was on pen rest after his keratoma op...... Actually I had to dope him for six weeks twice a day in his stable from the day after we got him home as he thought it was a good idea to twirl on his just operated hoof ?

I think if you don't do the op, you will regret trying. We were like that with spotty, vet gave a 80% chance of back to work and that's with a quarter ish of his pedal bone missing from his rh.

I'm still paying off the op three years later, it was the diagnosis and then bandage changes that cost the most, plus I broke my wrist the day we got him home and he needed to be sedated for the first three months so we could do his hoof.

 

[splashgirl45]

i am another who liked the post for the pics, not for the bad news. if you dont do the op you will worry that you havent done enough for him, but i understand your thoughts re the GA... good luck

 

[chaps89]

Asieds from the muzzle and front shoes, you'd struggle to tell them apart in that first photo. They look very content with one another.

It's rubbish when they won't read the vet notes. As he is so quiet in the box I'd be inclined to maybe keep him in until the op and have a really frank honest conversation with the vet in the meantime about his turnout post op.
I can't pen rest mine as she jumps (including post and rail as I discovered today) so she has to box rest for longer whilst I hand graze and do more walking for longer than I would and I just have to bite the bullet and turn her out and shut my eyes.
If it was something really serious I'd probably look to send away to a proper rehab yard who had stallion fencing on small pens or heras fencing etc who could manage the return to turnout for me. (Well, I wouldn't as I wouldn't put either of us through anything so serious, but theoretically speaking)

 

[Michen]

Guys thank you as always for the sensible words and advice. It really helps!! Legs are normal, no swelling today (either of them) and no heat in bad one. So defo right decision to keep him in.

He had a nice time playing tug of war with Pepper this am. And Bear did his longest hack to date, up to Kingsclere on the water ship down. He was epic, so good with motorbikes, tractors etc. A few lovely canters. He is going to sleep well this afternoon!

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Lovely and adorable post!

 

[tda]

It makes me twitch to go against my vet though. And also nervous as he's not supposed to be in a big field even with the original injury for another month, he could get up some serious speed. That said jumping out and skidding around a small paddock isn't exactly helpful either is it!

Understand how you feel but if hes happy and has his buddy he is less likely to be charging about?

 

[Michen]

Understand how you feel but if hes happy and has his buddy he is less likely to be charging about?

Hmmm not convinced. Both horses immensely playful...

 

[chaps89]

I am immensely jealous of your hacking!
Good to hear there's some improvement in Bogs leg.

 

[palo1]

Positive update It sounds as if Boggle really needs to be in for his own safety at least until you are sure that his leg is ok/you have the op situation decided upon. Blooming horses!!

 

[SatansLittleHelper]

Nothing of any use to add but I just love Boggle, he looks to have mountains of personality ❤❤❤❤

 

[scats]

Your hacking looks amazing. Very jealous!

 

[Pinkvboots]

I think keeping him in is a good choice it's only a few weeks, the RVC are very good I am only up the road from them have been there many times.

 

[Michen]

Bloody leg hot again. Ridiculous.

Emailed my vet to see if we can do scan a little earlier, can’t see what difference a week would make and feel some decisions need to be made either way really, whether that’s turn away, op or back in box long term for another rehab.


Seems bizarre for it to be cold then hot with him having done nothing to aggravate it.

 

[chaps89]

Mine had days where her leg would be hot and others where it would be fine, seemingly no rhyme or reason. Vet just said it happens sometimes with soft tissue injuries. On those days I cold hosed a little longer. Not to say it's not frustrating or worrisome though!
Will the scan give much benefit?

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

Bloody leg hot again. Ridiculous.

Emailed my vet to see if we can do scan a little earlier, can’t see what difference a week would make and feel some decisions need to be made either way really, whether that’s turn away, op or back in box long term for another rehab.


Seems bizarre for it to be cold then hot with him having done nothing to aggravate it.

This was a regular occurrence for L Fuzzy, whether in, out in little pen, wherever! I feel for you x

 

[frostie652]

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[Michen]

That’s interesting to hear guys thanks. I didn’t realise it was common for it to go hot and cold like that. He’s chilled in his stable and on his walks (for now) so I was surprised

I’m not sure of the benefit of a scan but even if it is a waste of £250 I think it’s got to be worth doing just in case there’s a noticeable improvement.. my vet seems To think it’s worth doing and he knows the insurance money is out etc and wouldn’t advise unnecessary expense if he didn’t think it was worth doing.

I think my vet has actually gone on holiday so may not be feasible to scan sooner. I just want to DO something, hate this bloody limbo.

 

[Michen]

I am so impressed with Bear. First arena hire and so much to look at. He found a cat walking along arena fence pretty
Unreasonable but other than that, no spooking or napping to my friends horse who met us there. A little snippet of trot he’s tired here at the end but still sweet, probably been in the school less than ten times and looks like he wouldn’t disgrace himself at an intro.

Loaded, travelled, stood, no issue.

 

[Pinkvboots]

He looks really good thats a very good trot! peacocks is what we often have on the arena fence, the peacocks had babies this year as well so there will be even more of them to look out for, my horses are really not keen on them especially when they shake there huge tail feathers in the air