Horses losing condition in the winter

Horses losing condition during the winter is usually down to poor management

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Wagtail said:
I got this far before realising you are not worth answering as you are unnecesarily rude. I have an hons degree in psychology and therefore had to do a lot of research in my time too. I also can completely see through you and others of a similar disposition.
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Wagtail, you're so entertaining. Such a shame that you can't recognise - or accept - constructive criticism. The post you're complaining about was very well written with not a rude word or comment in it; such a shame that you can't accept that.
 
Wagtail said:
I got this far before realising you are not worth answering as you are unnecesarily rude. I have an hons degree in psychology and therefore had to do a lot of research in my time too. I also can completely see through you and others of a similar disposition.
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Well its not often that im reduced to hysterical laughter at my desk but Wagtail you did it.

A degree in fairystudies.....I now have a complete picture of you. I cant take anything you say seriously, sorry..........
 
Enfys said:
Oh, not yours? Shame, because it is a little cracking yard.

Wagtail, I have a question, perfectly civil and purely just out of curiosity on my part. You said that you fed five times a day, how on earth do you manage to do anything else (house, shopping, social life etc, etc) during the day if you are tied to a regime like that, or do you keep staff as well?
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Regarding the yard. I think I know the one you mean. This is getting into very serious territory and I will be dropping them an email pointing them to this thread. I am not aiming this at you BTW but Martlin.

Yes, I feed haylage five times a day in the winter. It is now summer and only feed it twice (if the grass is poor as now).
 
spaniel said:
Well its not often that im reduced to hysterical laughter at my desk but Wagtail you did it.

A degree in fairystudies.....I now have a complete picture of you. I cant take anything you say seriously, sorry..........
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That's okay. I'm cool with that. :)
 
Wagtail said:
Yes they absolutely hate it here. :(
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Do you actually read posts? or just what you want to read?

You have stated you do not put horses out in mud- but they are out all day in winter- where? a pen? I'm just saying it would not be MY first choice, or that of many horsey folk I know......
 
lexiedhb said:
You have stated you do not put horses out in mud- but they are out all day in winter- where? a pen? I'm just saying it would not be MY first choice, or that of many horsey folk I know......
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Wagtail has stated some time back that horses are turned out in a pen (or it may have been the school) - anyway not a field.
 
why1040 said:
Okay, I got to page 26 before I gave up and just had to say something.

To the OP:
A) your poll is poorly worded (I come from a research background here) and is biased towards your own view. That'll be why most people "agree" with you, because they didn't necessarily read the whole diatribe you then spouted. Had I not actually read the rest of the thread (well okay, most of it) I probably would have clicked the wrong choice too.

B) your science is dodgy and you put your own beliefs in as fact.

C) you are constantly changing the goalposts, which makes it quite hard to discuss anything with you because we don't know what you ACTUALLY mean!

There's a massive difference between losing a bit of weight over winter and going into starvation mode (which does slow the metabolism). It takes a LOT of weight loss to go into starvation mode. It has been proven scientifically that horses' metabolism goes UP in winter. It only goes DOWN if SIGNIFICANT weight loss (ie starvation) is achieved. Thus your statement that constant losing and gaining of weight is a bad thing is actually not proven. Whereas several studies show that losing some weight in winter is a good thing.

It makes sense nutritionally to keep our horses eating as naturally as is possible considering their circumstances, because that's how they were designed to be fed. Hence why things are changing so we trickle feed more, add more roughage, etc. So why are you so against the concept that horses were designed to lose a bit of weight in the winter for their health?

You can say that you were aiming to hear from the people who are just skimping on their horses' diets all you like, as that's not what you stated originally, that's just backtracking I'm afraid. Your statement was that weight loss during the winter is down to poor management. It's not. It's good management. Except where it isn't because there is already poor management.
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Where's the like button? Complete common sense.
 
martlin said:
And am I supposed to feel scared? What serious territory have you got in mind?
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I don't know Martlin. You are encouraging people to google a business website. You are not anonymous yourself, and if someone emails them and points them to this thread it could be seen as defamatory. They could sue. If it is the website I think it is, they look like they would have the money too. Just saying. It's one thing having an argument on a forum, a complete new ball game making assumptions about real identities (right or wrong) and thinking it clever to do this on a public forum. To think that you are an instructor too and you behave like this?
 
It's OK Wagtail, I don't aim to be anonymous.
Defamatory? the only words put here were that it's a cracking yard...
But, feel free to e-mail them.

ETS: I am delighted every time somebody googles my website, after all, that's what it is there for - for other people to see :D
 
Wagtail said:
I don't know Martlin. You are encouraging people to google a business website. You are not anonymous yourself, and if someone emails them and points them to this thread it could be seen as defamatory.
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The clue is in the words business and website......

And there has been no defamation within this post - unless you are just trying to stir it to get it removed. Which if that is the case, is very ungracious of you :o
 
martlin said:
It's OK Wagtail, I don't aim to be anonymous.
Defamatory? the only words put here were that it's a cracking yard...
But, feel free to e-mail them.

ETS: I am delighted every time somebody googles my website, after all, that's what it is there for - for other people to see :D
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And you think that you give out a professional impression on here, do you?

And don't worry, I will be emailing them or any other yard that you imply I might own, if I see it again on here.
 
Wagtail said:
And you think that you give out a professional impression on here, do you?

And don't worry, I will be emailing them or any other yard that you imply I might own, if I see it again on here.
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Absolutely, I would happily send a horse to martlin. Unlike.... others
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Martlin Im so sorry, I just Googled your website and had a look.......*holds hands out for cuffs* its a fair cop.
 
amymay said:
Mind boggles. Not sure what you think will happen, as no one has made any criticsm of any yards.......:o:o
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This. I can imagine the email now..

"Someone mentioned something about being able to google your yard online, they also said it looked like a cracking yard."

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'Ok... thanks for the err... warning.'
 
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Originally Posted by Enfys
Oh, not yours? Shame, because it is a cracking little yard.

Wagtail, I have a question, perfectly civil and purely just out of curiosity on my part. You said that you fed five times a day, how on earth do you manage to do anything else (house, shopping, social life etc, etc) during the day if you are tied to a regime like that, or do you keep staff as well?

Regarding the yard. I think I know the one you mean. This is getting into very serious territory and I will be dropping them an email pointing them to this thread. I am not aiming this at you BTW but Martlin.

Yes, I feed haylage five times a day in the winter. It is now summer and only feed it twice (if the grass is poor as now).


I don't believe that anything derogatory in the least has been said about the yard I am thinking of, in fact, quite the opposite.

Mine all have access to hay as well, all year, but mainly round bales, I simply could not find the time to feed over 20 horses in 7 paddocks several times a day.
 
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