How is this vet allowed to conduct themselves like this online?

[MurphysMinder]

Just seen she has been called out by a fellow vet on fb.

Kt English-Baillie​

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Some of you may have seen this extremely disappointing post from a fellow vet.
It saddens me as so many people out there are working SO hard to raise awareness of this disease given the complete lack of education on this at vet school and within the wider community. And it's been working! Lots of professionals are aware of it, how harmful it can be and how much effort it takes to keep these ponies well. Unfortunately that has the potential to be undone due to uneducated posts like this.
This is NOT normal.
This is NOT just mites.

 

[slimjim86]

She doesn’t even say ‘commonly seen’. She says ‘completely normal’ for a cob. So how many of her followers will now ignore legs like that as ‘normal coz he’s a cob’. And not seek veterinary advice.

Exactly, a real danger to equine welfare, combine advice like this along with "I won't put a healthy horse to sleep", when in this case the healthy horse had nearly 12 months box rest and 3 (I think) pedal scrapes. I seem to recall her saying uts only when they struggle to get up that PTS is right!!

 

[splashgirl45]

She is dangerous !!!! Not normal cob legs , not all cobs have had mite's. She is not doing horse welfare any good at all… I’ve blocked her from my Facebook page as I got so annoyed with her spouting rubbish and only see the odd post on here

 

[IrishMilo]

Also initially dismissing CPL as ‘fashionable’ while later going on to state that she has about 50 cobs with CPL on her books .

Which I'm sure she's happy to treat pro-bono given there's actually nothing wrong with them!

 

[Steerpike]

The vet that just keeps on giving........

 

[lizziebell]

Just seen she has been called out by a fellow vet on fb.

Kt English-Baillie​

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Some of you may have seen this extremely disappointing post from a fellow vet.
It saddens me as so many people out there are working SO hard to raise awareness of this disease given the complete lack of education on this at vet school and within the wider community. And it's been working! Lots of professionals are aware of it, how harmful it can be and how much effort it takes to keep these ponies well. Unfortunately that has the potential to be undone due to uneducated posts like this.
This is NOT normal.
This is NOT just mites.

That’s one very brave lady/ vet !! SV and her followers will be baying for blood when they catch wind of this.

 

[slimjim86]

That’s one very brave lady/ vet !! SV and her followers will be baying for blood when they catch wind of this.

Well hopefully the pile on that will follow will provide plenty of evidence to use reporting her to her governing body, as we've all said she is a huge threat to equine welfare.

 

[lizziebell]

Well hopefully the pile on that will follow will provide plenty of evidence to use reporting her to her governing body, as we've all said she is a huge threat to equine welfare.

I believe her conduct on social media has been reported to the RCVS by a number of individuals, but the RCVS appear to dismiss her behaviour even though SV breaches their code of conduct on more than one point.

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

I believe her conduct on social media has been reported to the RCVS by a number of individuals, but the RCVS appear to dismiss her behaviour even though SV breaches their code of conduct on more than one point.

I think they might have to take it more seriously now she is posting obvious factually incorrect veterinary advice that could have a very negative effect on horse welfare.

 

[slimjim86]

I believe her conduct on social media has been reported to the RCVS by a number of individuals, but the RCVS appear to dismiss her behaviour even though SV breaches their code of conduct on more than one point.

Yeah I thought she'd been reported a few times by now but hopefully it will get to the point where they can't ignore it, especially if it's coming from other vets who are worried about the mis information she's giving out and the threat that poses. We can live in hope x

 

[slimjim86]

Duplicated

 

[PurpleSpots]

Hopefully the RCVS can also be reminded about her complete ignorance surrounding sleep deprivation, and her claims that hind gut ulcers and leaky gut 'do not exist'.

 

[khalswitz]

Exactly, a real danger to equine welfare, combine advice like this along with "I won't put a healthy horse to sleep", when in this case the healthy horse had nearly 12 months box rest and 3 (I think) pedal scrapes. I seem to recall her saying uts only when they struggle to get up that PTS is right!!

I think they might have to take it more seriously now she is posting obvious factually incorrect veterinary advice that could have a very negative effect on horse welfare.

This. The RVCS is unlikely to intervene if someone is giving 'opinion' that could be correct or is debated - at the end of the day, taking someone's professional registration is a big deal and there should be freedom of opinion in veterinary medicine. However evidence of advocating dangerous practice or unethical practice is more likely to prick up ears.

 

[lizziebell]

Apparently it was just a very bad clip . She’s clutching at straws !

 

[lizziebell]

This. The RVCS is unlikely to intervene if someone is giving 'opinion' that could be correct or is debated - at the end of the day, taking someone's professional registration is a big deal and there should be freedom of opinion in veterinary medicine. However evidence of advocating dangerous practice or unethical practice is more likely to prick up ears.

100% agree with opinions and freedom of speech, but she never makes it clear that it’s her “opinion” and always puts her opinion across as “fact”.

Aside from the opinion elements of her social media account. Bullying, trolling, inciting aggression and abusive behaviour towards people on social media does breach RCVS social media code of conduct, yet this is also ignored by them.

 

[Nasicus]

Apparently it was just a very bad clip
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Oh give OVER. Those horizontal lines are from the folds in the skin, where there is likely scar tissue from previous mite infestations which guess what? Hampers the circulation of lymph fluid which causes it to collect in the legs and causes, you guessed it, lymphedema! Having had mites are one of the very likely reasons the horse has developed CPL in the first place!

 

[ester]

I mean it also looked like a crap clip but

 

[supagran]

I've stopped following this vet on FB - I mentioned in a post of hers that time was a great healer, and very quickly got a response from her that it was not time but her work that had made the horse come sound. I felt totally dismissed.

 

[slimjim86]

I mean it also looked like a crap clip but

It's pretty difficult to clip lumpy skin though.

 

[greenbean10]

That is the first time I’ve ever seen her admit she’s bad at something!

 

[meleeka]

This comment shows why SV is so irresponsible:

"I was very relieved to see your earlier post, my cobs legs look much the same when clipped, and i was wondering about CPL for him, he has had issues with mites, so it gave me some reassurance he was just a normal cob."

 

[Ambers Echo]

It's about time other vets called her absolute BS out.

IF it's a bad clip (which it isn't) why post misleading pictures of it? How is it awareness raising or remotely helpful to post a picture of legs that look like (are) CPL and then say these legs are 'completely normal for cobs'.

She's a fecking liability.

 

[Miss_Millie]

She clearly gets off on being deliberately controversial. Sharing factual advise in a professional way doesn't get the attention that spouting bullshit does, otherwise all vets would have large FB followings. She gets a lot of interaction from controversial posts which result in her page being pushed higher up the algorithm.

It's only a matter of time before she takes it too far and finally (quite rightly) gets into trouble over it. I do hope that reputable companies will start to realise that being associated with someone so contrary for the sake of it, and more importantly to the detriment of horse welfare, is nothing to be proud of.

 

[Miss_Millie]

This comment shows why SV is so irresponsible:

"I was very relieved to see your earlier post, my cobs legs look much the same when clipped, and i was wondering about CPL for him, he has had issues with mites, so it gave me some reassurance he was just a normal cob."

Like that time someone said that they felt vindicated to punish their horse after seeing the video of her whipping her horse in draw reins. What a good example she is.

 

[Cloball]

My girl has had really bad mites and her legs do not look like that she has lovely clean legs and feather

 

[HJJ]

It's dangerous that she spreads misinformation. It's even more dangerous that she deletes / bans / shuts or shouts down even the slightest respectful challenge to what she spouts.

Can you imagine if one of her clients ever dares seek a second opinion...

 

[Wizpop]

I think it’s just beyond all reason and words that the RCVS are not getting involved! Yet another organisation that we are supposed to be able to trust to look out for the welfare of our animals. Yes, I’m feeling very angry about this as I’m seeing the results iof neglecting this condition!!

 

[Tiddlypom]

Avondale Vets on CPL

Chronic Progressive Lymphoedema

Chronic Progressive Lymphoedema (CPL) in horses is a debilitating skin condition for which there is no cure. Find out about CPL in horses with our blog.

www.avonvaleequine.co.uk

CPL is a disease of the lymphatic system where, due to poor lymphatic drainage, affected horses end up with thickened lower legs, often ending up with skin folds and nodules. The decreased lymphatic drainage coupled with insulation from heavy feathering creates the perfect environment for secondary bacterial and parasitic infections. These in turn cause further inflammation and thickening and scarring of the legs, creating a perfect storm for very uncomfortable legs!

Shouty vet to her groupies re CPL with a statement which doesn’t square with her earlier admitting that she has 50 cobs on her books with the named condition CPL .

I think people are getting very silly in claiming something needs labelling as a specific condition in order to manage it properly.

 

[ester]

Yes it’s famously easy to manage conditions without labels

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

Yes it’s famously easy to manage conditions without labels

Yes you can mentally change your mind about what you are treating depending on how it looks each day and on how you feel about life in general. Sounds like a good way forward when looking after sick or sorry horses. Treat whatever you fancy treating at the time.