How is this vet allowed to conduct themselves like this online?

[PurpleSpots]

Why have you no words, why have you not published the whole post? Several people have now complained to both Horse and Hound and Magazines Direct re the awful threads re this vet…and indeed some have cancelled their subscriptions…

In my opinion the rest of the post is worse - with regard to equine welfare.

If people have complained and/or cancelled their subscriptions to blindly support advocating animal cruelty and reducing equine welfare then that says a whole lot more about them than anyone and anything else.

 

[ycbm]

Why have you no words, why have you not published the whole post? Several people have now complained to both Horse and Hound and Magazines Direct re the awful threads re this vet…and indeed some have cancelled their subscriptions…

Welcome to the forum.

We can assume that you're a supporter of vets who give out bad advice and ride lame horses and in saddles they say they know don't fit, and raise money for operations that don't take place and then just keep it, can we?


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[JenJ]

Why have you no words, why have you not published the whole post? Several people have now complained to both Horse and Hound and Magazines Direct re the awful threads re this vet…and indeed some have cancelled their subscriptions…

This was the relevant section that left me speechless. I hope that answers both of your questions.

 

[Marshpiper]

Welcome to the forum.

We can assume that you're a supporter of vets who give out bad advice and ride lame horses and in saddles they know don't fit, can we?
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I was a member of the forum when it first started, it was enjoyable, informative, funny, gave lovely welcomed advice from knowledgeable good people…I left when it started to go downhill….I am neither a friend or supporter of the vet in question, but I am so upset by the, frankly wrong posts about her..I actually read the posts she puts up and not just glance through them, and I suggest you should do the same…
Also why would you continue to read her Facebook posts, when you obviously are positive that she is A not a good vet and B posts rubbish

 

[Amymay Again]

I was a member of the forum when it first started, it was enjoyable, informative, funny, gave lovely welcomed advice from knowledgeable good people…I left when it started to go downhill….I am neither a friend or supporter of the vet in question, but I am so upset by the, frankly wrong posts about her..I actually read the posts she puts up and not just glance through them, and I suggest you should do the same…
Also why would you continue to read her Facebook posts, when you obviously are positive that she is A not a good vet and B posts rubbish

What about her are the observations on here wrong about?

 

[PurpleSpots]

I was a member of the forum when it first started, it was enjoyable, informative, funny, gave lovely welcomed advice from knowledgeable good people…I left when it started to go downhill….I am neither a friend or supporter of the vet in question, but I am so upset by the, frankly wrong posts about her..I actually read the posts she puts up and not just glance through them, and I suggest you should do the same…
Also why would you continue to read her Facebook posts, when you obviously are positive that she is A not a good vet and B posts rubbish

Because she is damaging to the whole concept of equine welfare, and to say nothing when we can see that would be worse than her misguided views being shared in the first place.

 

[ycbm]

I was a member of the forum when it first started, it was enjoyable, informative, funny, gave lovely welcomed advice from knowledgeable good people…I left when it started to go downhill….I am neither a friend or supporter of the vet in question, but I am so upset by the, frankly wrong posts about her..I actually read the posts she puts up and not just glance through them, and I suggest you should do the same…
Also why would you continue to read her Facebook posts, when you obviously are positive that she is A not a good vet and B posts rubbish

First you assume that I don't read the posts I comment on, then ask why I keep reading them.

I read them to make sure I only make fair comments on them.

No comment about her on this forum has been incorrect except those about the standard of her riding which I challenged at the time.

I trust you don't have a horse with hind gut ulcers or CPL, and that you haven't "killed" a loved old horse recently.

She's riding a lame horse and thereby encouraging others to do the same, don't you care?
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[JFTDWS]

"I'm not a friend or a supporter" - but the whole post is in support of this vet, and, furthermore, claims to be emotionally involved in the debate.

I have questions about the definition of "supporter" in use here!

 

[U.N.Owen]

I was a member of the forum when it first started, it was enjoyable, informative, funny, gave lovely welcomed advice from knowledgeable good people…I left when it started to go downhill….I am neither a friend or supporter of the vet in question, but I am so upset by the, frankly wrong posts about her..I actually read the posts she puts up and not just glance through them, and I suggest you should do the same…
Also why would you continue to read her Facebook posts, when you obviously are positive that she is A not a good vet and B posts rubbish

This always surprises me as HHO forum back in the day was notorious for being a vipers pit. Waaay more arguing and cliques and trolls then.

 

[Amymay Again]

This always surprises me as HHO forum back in the day was notorious for being a vipers pit. Waaay more arguing and cliques and trolls then.

Well, exactly

 

[meleeka]

….I am neither a friend or supporter of the vet in question, but I am so upset by the, frankly wrong posts about her..I actually read the posts she puts up and not just glance through them, and I suggest you should do the same…

Please do enlighten us as to which posts are wrong?

If she wasn't passing off her (mostly odd) personal opinions as fact, it would be a lot easier for people to scroll on by, but the fact is she's causing harm in the way she posts.

 

[scats]

I was a member of the forum when it first started, it was enjoyable, informative, funny, gave lovely welcomed advice from knowledgeable good people…I left when it started to go downhill….

This forum was brutal back in the day. Far, far worse than it is now and anyone who was around back then will attest to that.
I think you may have mixed it up with a different forum!

 

[Roxylola]

It is not possible to rule out or eliminate pain as the cause of a behavioral response.
Horses are flight animals it is unnatural for them to expand more effort being evasive than compliant.
For any horse objecting strongly to fairly straightforward questions I'd be actively looking for the reason they are so unhappy.
I'd expect to find pain somewhere.
I saw a video on social media today showing a horse looking very uncomfortable and sore, apparently that horse has been deemed not lame by technology. All that tells me is the tech doesn't know why the horse is in pain

 

[nutjob]

I actually read the posts she puts up and not just glance through them, and I suggest you should do the same…

Thank you for your kind suggestion but I posted a link to something that did not support her teaching, it was deleted and now I'm banned. Many of us would love to discuss her ideas with her on fb sadly she's not open to any discussion only preaching and sycophancy.

 

[ihatework]

"It can be a lonely world as an experienced rider". The arrogance is just unbelievable.

See this I just do not get!
My experience is, the more experienced you get the wider your network, the more you are taken seriously and there are always really good horse people to bounce ideas off.
Most good horse people are very generous with their time. It’s not lonely at all. You just have to make an effort to integrate and have a bit of humility!

 

[Ceifer]

"It can be a lonely world as an experienced rider".

Translation:
It can be a lonely world when it is filled with sycophants on Facebook who I consider below me and incompetent horse people.

 

[greenbean10]

I saw that post yesterday and laughed out loud - she is off her rocker

 

[marmalade76]

"It can be a lonely world as an experienced rider".

Translation:
It can be a lonely world when it is filled with sycophants on Facebook who I consider below me and incompetent horse people.

Absolutely spot on if you ask me.

 

[SpeedyPony]

See this I just do not get!
My experience is, the more experienced you get the wider your network, the more you are taken seriously and there are always really good horse people to bounce ideas off.
Most good horse people are very generous with their time. It’s not lonely at all. You just have to make an effort to integrate and have a bit of humility!

This^
Even if you don't agree with every aspect of someone's horsemanship, you can still respect their general ability/knowledge and discuss things with them. Or you can if you are willing to accept there are multiple acceptable ways of working.

 

[teapot]

See this I just do not get!
My experience is, the more experienced you get the wider your network, the more you are taken seriously and there are always really good horse people to bounce ideas off.
Most good horse people are very generous with their time. It’s not lonely at all. You just have to make an effort to integrate and have a bit of humility!

Also weird as she's happy enough to regularly post the name of her coach. Wouldn't they be a logical place to start?!

 

[ecb89]

This forum was brutal back in the day. Far, far worse than it is now and anyone who was around back then will attest to that.
I think you may have mixed it up with a different forum!

I agree

 

[PurpleSpots]

Also weird as she's happy enough to regularly post the name of her coach. Wouldn't they be a logical place start?!

SV: 'I definitely don’t have the time/funds to train with anyone on the flat'

 

[spotty_pony2]

I have to say the videos of her horses slamming themselves against the stables to go out and rearing up almost over the partition isn’t funny. They don’t come across as relaxed and happy horses.

 

[Miss_Millie]

"It can be a lonely world as an experienced rider".

Translation:
It can be a lonely world when it is filled with sycophants on Facebook who I consider below me and incompetent horse people.

Or translation "It's lonely in my echo chamber because I've blocked and deleted any person who has told me that my horse is in pain"

SV would never listen to my opinion as a member of the fat cob club, but in my experience a healthy and happy horse is a willing horse, both on the ground and under saddle. I also have enough friends who have gone through rehab with their horses to know that the tiniest niggle can really tip the balance of the scales, whether there is something wrong with the gut, hoof balance, management, let alone other things which may be lurking under the surface and need investigation.

I loved BBP's post about helping their two youngsters recently after a long time of trying to figure out exactly what was wrong, and having two happy ponies after getting to the bottom of it. Such an inspiring story of perseverance and listening to your horse when they're telling you something isn't right.

I also agree with others saying that there are loads of resources and community around us if we are open-minded enough to listen. It's why I enjoy the forum - I've learnt so much here from everyone's personal experiences with their horses. And IMO you don't need to be an experienced rider to look after your horses extremely well - if someone values riding above their horse's happiness, they may be willing to overlook their horse saying that something is uncomfortable and just keep going. As we have seen at the highest levels.

 

[Crazy_cat_lady]

Imagine trying to coach her, she blocks anyone on SM who dares hold a slightly different view to her, wonder what lessons she has are like!

 

[I'm Dun]

This always surprises me as HHO forum back in the day was notorious for being a vipers pit. Waaay more arguing and cliques and trolls then.

It was absolutely terrifying! Franch anyone?

 

[jhoward]

This always surprises me as HHO forum back in the day was notorious for being a vipers pit. Waaay more arguing and cliques and trolls then.

I thought that too... thankfully Giles has retired...

 

[Dave's Mam]

The forum is quite civilised these days.
That does not mean they go soft on people who are rough on their horses & people who think they are above judgement.

 

[Back of beyond]

Just found this vets FB page, does she block anyone who tries to have a discussion or question what she says?

 

[Reacher]

I wasn’t aware SV is an Olympic rider

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I have no words.

But seriously you’d think a horse owned by a vet would be in the best possible hands, but clearly SV can’t spot a lame horse