Indigo Irish Draughts - please read, a heads up.

[meleeka]

Janet would indeed be distraught. She had thought that she had her affairs laid out so that her remaining horses were safe.

I believe that the dealer shot a number of the horses that were deemed not saleable.

Indigo Reflection (Brooklet) I remember. She is the mare that Janet would size up potential purchasers on. She will be 18 now, she is one of the ones on the potentially sold on list. Janet had been loath to ever sell her again because she had failed to settle once when sold as a young horse, so Janet took her back. She was Janet's favourite .

The woman who bought Buck (Indigo Pure Arrogance), the 15 yo ex stallion, said he would need a lot of tlc and indeed he didn't look great in the pic she posted. He was grand before he left the stud a few weeks earlier . He'd lived there all his life. He didn't settle at all with her and her setup and she returned him pdq to the dealer - I believe that he's still up for sale.

Brooklet was my favourite too I remember the whole saga when she was sold and how upset Janet was about it.

I just can’t get my head around passing them on to dealers in a job lot. Even if the unsalable ones were pts quietly at home it wouldn’t have been so bad. The executor would probably have done better financially out of it too if they’d have kept a staff member on and sold them from the stud.

 

[ihatework]

On face value this is exceptionally sad and frightening.

I can’t help but wonder though that there must be more to this story

 

[tristar]

sure at one point J G had over a hundred horses

 

[Kaylum]

This is why it’s so important to know who you gifting your horses to. They probably be sold under a white passport or name change so nobody will know the history of their horse. Don’t want to upset anyone but the rescue attitude is obviously theses fancy Irish draughty horses don’t need to be here there is more important horses needing rescuing. A lot of rescue don’t think well of fancy breed horses so I am not surprised because the rescue opinion is they didn’t suffer.

That's certainly not true. Reputable rescues do not care how well bred a horse is. All horses are given the same treatment regardless of breed and they wouldn't end up in dealers hands.

 

[ycbm]

Indigo Reflection (Brooklet) I remember. She is the mare that Janet would size up potential purchasers on.

Doesn't that say it all about Janet? What other breeders have potential purchasers ride an assessment session so they can judge what horses will match them?

It's so sad the the beneficiaries of her will have betrayed her and the horses like this. If the project she had in mind wasn't feasible they should have told her that while she had a chance to make other arrangements for the horses. What a shame she didn't manage to get the beneficiaries tied into her plan legally.

 

[AandK]

I could read the FB post and all the comments. This so incredibly sad and infuriating at the same time.
Whoever decided to offload those horses on a dealer should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Someone in the comments wanted to buy some of the horses and help rehome others, they were dismissed..
That poor recently gelded horse, now with an awful bin end dealer… And all the others who have been uplifted from their long term home to an uncertain future. I wish I could do something to help…

 

[Lexi 123]

That's certainly not true. Reputable rescues do not care how well bred a horse is. All horses are given the same treatment regardless of breed and they wouldn't end up in dealers hands.

well the rescue that was given the yard has a good reputation and is has a charity number. It a real rescue unfortunately. They aren’t rescues horses so a lot of charities wouldn’t keep them they would just be sold on by most rescues . There had obvious issues and the charity wouldn’t take them on . So when the charity was dumped with them they just sent them to the dealers

 

[Rupert2021]

So to be clear, Hopton Rehab & Homing, a registered charity, were very generously gifted Janet's farm in her will, and instead of responsibly rehoming her horses to suitable homes, they sold them in bulk to dodgy dealers??!

Pretty much. Goes against their ethos.
Would have been much kinder to just have the horses PTS that shouldn’t have been rehomed. This was constantly suggested but ignored.

 

[meleeka]

well the rescue that was given the yard has a good reputation and is has a charity number. It a real rescue unfortunately. They aren’t rescues horses so a lot of charities wouldn’t keep them they would just be sold on by most rescues . There had obvious issues and the charity wouldn’t take them on . So when the charity was dumped with them they just sent them to the dealers

The charity wasn’t dumped with them though, they came with the farm which will presumably benefit the charity enormously?

 

[SantaVera]

Pretty much. Goes against their ethos.
Would have been much kinder to just have the horses PTS that shouldn’t have been rehomed. This was constantly suggested but ignored.

No, Hopton Rehab and Homing has not sent any horses to any dealer,neither those belonging to the late Janet George nor anyone else.

 

[meleeka]

No, Hopton Rehab and Homing has not sent any horses to any dealer,neither those belonging to the late Janet George nor anyone else.

So how did they get there?

 

[Errin Paddywack]

No, Hopton Rehab and Homing has not sent any horses to any dealer,neither those belonging to the late Janet George nor anyone else.

Who has then?

 

[Rupert2021]

No, Hopton Rehab and Homing has not sent any horses to any dealer,neither those belonging to the late Janet George nor anyone else.

They pushed for it to happen, saying there wouldn’t be enough room for there. But surely they could have taken on the suggestion that they put to sleep in their home, where they have always known. Now they are being passed from pillar to post in great distress.

 

[AmyMay]

H

Hopton rehoming.

These?

 

[ycbm]

They pushed for it to happen, saying there wouldn’t be enough room for there.

There was enough room on the farm they inherited!
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[AmyMay]

No, Hopton Rehab and Homing has not sent any horses to any dealer,neither those belonging to the late Janet George nor anyone else.

So to be clear. They don’t ‘own’ the farm and have no involvement with the selling of these horses?

 

[SantaVera]

So to be clear. They don’t ‘own’ the farm and have no involvement with the selling of these horses?

Correct

 

[AmyMay]

Correct

So what is the name of the charity that is involved?

 

[meleeka]

Correct

I’m assuming the Executor then. Were they aware that the horses were being sold?

 

[AmyMay]

It would be interesting to see a copy of the will.

 

[Rupert2021]

I’m assuming the Executor then. Were they aware that the horses were being sold?

Yes they were very much aware as they said they didn’t have enough room for there own horses..? although the horses could have been sold through the staff to indigo owners knowing that they could have gone to a fantastic home.. but 18 didn’t have to go, and shouldn’t have gone.
if you refer back to the FB post and look for Bruce thorpleys comment that will help understand better too.
But obviously the easier option was to sell to one buyer in bulk.
in all honestly Janet would be turning in her grave. Not what she would have wanted.

 

[AmyMay]

We still haven’t established the name of the charity

 

[meleeka]

Yes they were very much aware as they said they didn’t have enough room for there own horses..? although the horses could have been sold through the staff to indigo owners knowing that they could have gone to a fantastic home.. but 18 didn’t have to go, and shouldn’t have gone.
if you refer back to the FB post and look for Bruce thorpleys comment that will help understand better too.
But obviously the easier option was to sell to one buyer in bulk.
in all honestly Janet would be turning in her grave. Not what she would have wanted.

Not much charity going on by the sounds of it. The charity got gifted a whole farm yet couldn’t offer sanctuary to the horses that knew nothing else.

 

[shortstuff99]

Even more galling that the dealer they seem to have been sold to has criminal convictions for stealing horses and other such delights

 

[Rupert2021]

Even more galling that the dealer they seem to have been sold to has criminal convictions for stealing horses and other such delights

And the charity said how fantastic these people are and how they will get fantastic homes.. they aren’t stupid or are they? I can’t decide

 

[ihatework]

Is there any personal links between the executor and the charity? Are both parties completely independent?

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

Is there any personal links between the executor and the charity? Are both parties completely independent?

Or between the executor and the dealer?

 

[teacups]

On face value this is exceptionally sad and frightening.

I can’t help but wonder though that there must be more to this story

You would hope so.

Here is someone who clearly thought they had made arrangements for their horses to be safe and provided for, and it looks as though the end result is pretty much what might have happened if no arrangements had been made at all. Awful.

 

[Rupert2021]

Or between the executor and the dealer?

No. In defence to the executor she’s not horsie at all and would have been listening to the ‘professionals’.
Although I wish they would have listened to the staff.

 

[AmyMay]

No. In defence to the executor she’s not horsie at all and would have been listening to the ‘professionals’.
Although I wish they would have listened to the staff.

But what did the will specify was to happen to the horses?