Introducing Lindeza (lin-day-za)

Regarding the "too wide" for you situation, have you considered doing something like Pilates for your self to loosen up your hips?
 
thefarsideofthefield said:
According to ' My Big Book of Spanish Riding ' - (" El Spookas . Chapter 7 " ) If your horse takes the Pisto and does a Tortillas you should put your Patatas Bravos on and give it a Tapas with your stick .

You're welcome .
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oohh, will you give me some spanish lessons please! i`m feeling hungry
 
Tarragon said:
Regarding the "too wide" for you situation, have you considered doing something like Pilates for your self to loosen up your hips?
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I already do. I'm not tight through the hips, I'm actually slightly hypermobile. I am just built very small boned. I wear children's watches and I can even fasten a child's watch around my ankle in spite of being 5ft 8.
 
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Goldenstar said:
I really think I would give no haylege
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Then I would waste half of each bale of big bale haylage that I already have here, because it will be open too long to feed before it is all used up.

Her pulses were extremely difficult to detect today after a couple of days on a mix of 5kg haylage and ad lib straw. If that works I can't see why it would be sensible to buy more straw (which I have nowhere easy to store) when I already have haylage.

Obviously if she doesn't lose weight on that before spring, then it's a different matter.
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How frustrating for you @ycbm. I have 2 different sorts; one slab sided anglo (appaloosa) type who needs food a bit but generally does well and my young Welsh D who I have had to work on all summer to lose a bit of weight. She will winter without a rug and without hard feed at all and may possibly have to have rationed hay to get her slim enough for the spring. However I anticipate her doing more work next spring and I love her enough to find workarounds. It sounds like you don't love your PRE enough to make the significant effort needed. Horses are hard enough work so why keep one you don't want to work 'for' iykwim? Lots of people would love a UK bred PRE regardless of management issues (within reason). However, haylage can be tricky, certainly not ideal for a good doer.

Maybe when you are looking for the next one, the questions you ask should relate closely to how compatible that would be to your set up as that works for you and you don't want to change it. That may not be the 'standard' way of looking for a horse but if the set up you have is the key for your enjoyment then you have to make fitting in to your set up the important bit. It sounds as if possibly, a TB that you really like could work better. Hope you either sort things or can find a more suitable pal for Ludo and riding horse for you. :)
 
ycbm said:
Then I would waste half of each bale of big bale haylage that I already have here, because it will be open too long to feed before it is all used up.

Her pulses were extremely difficult to detect today after a couple of days on a mix of 5kg haylage and ad lib straw. If that works I can't see why it would be sensible to buy more straw (which I have nowhere easy to store) when I already have haylage.

Obviously if she doesn't lose weight on that before spring, then it's a different matter.
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Surely its better to waste haylage than feed it to a horse who cant eat it without it causing problems?
 
ycbm said:
Then I would waste half of each bale of big bale haylage that I already have here, because it will be open too long to feed before it is all used up.

Her pulses were extremely difficult to detect today after a couple of days on a mix of 5kg haylage and ad lib straw. If that works I can't see why it would be sensible to buy more straw (which I have nowhere easy to store) when I already have haylage.

Obviously if she doesn't lose weight on that before spring, then it's a different matter.
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I would burn it or compost it before I gave it to a fat horse .
 
Littlewills said:
Surely its better to waste haylage than feed it to a horse who cant eat it without it causing problems?
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Goldenstar said:
I would burn it or compost it before I gave it to a fat horse .
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Are either of you reading the posts where I have said that her pulses have reduced since I started her on the big bale in the last couple of days?

Only an expert could have found them this morning, they were very, very faint.
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It's good of you to be concerned GS but I did not ask for advice. You have not seen the haylage she is on, not all haylage is the same. She is doing well. An instructor yesterday remarked on how huge her movement is and she is completely sound. If this new regime does not suit her it will be changed, but the signs right now are that it is suiting her just fine.
 
Steerpike said:
I would be cautious getting an Arab, I have 10, some live off fresh air whilst others need feeding up, also some ride like tanks and are wide whilst others ride more like a TB.
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Agree with this. Mimosa (82% Arab) is much wider that Milagra (Andalusian but unregistered). She’s shorter in the body too so she’s like a little barrel ok toothpicks.

She takes up my leg nicely though ? the only positive of barrel-like ponies.
 
Goldenstar said:
I am not giving you advice I am pointing out I think it’s bonkers to post that you are considering selling a horse because it’s fat and are feeding it haylege because if you don’t it will be wasted.
It makes no sense .
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I agree with you that it would be bonkers to do that if she was not doing better on the big bale I have just started than on the small bale soaked I have just finished. If her pulses stay where they are now and she is losing weight then there is no issue. When there is an issue, I will change things. I'm feeding it because there is no point wasting it if it suits her, not simply because I don't want it wasted. I am not a fool.

Not all haylage is the same and some is perfectly safe for dieting horses.
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LadyGascoyne said:
Agree with this. Mimosa (82% Arab) is much wider that Milagra (Andalusian but unregistered). She’s shorter in the body too so she’s like a little barrel ok toothpicks.

She takes up my leg nicely though ? the only positive of barrel-like ponies.
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There will be no Arab. I am having too many flashbacks of the one-person Arab I owned 40 years ago ?
 
ycbm said:
I agree with you that it would be bonkers to do that if she was not doing better on the big bale i have just started than on the small bale soaked I have just finished.

Not all haylage is the same and some is perfectly safe for dieting horses.
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Tbf isn’t it often better in some ways for laminitis? I believe some of the bagged stuff has a lower sugar content than hay, even when soaked?
 
Michen said:
Tbf isn’t it often better in some ways for laminitis? I believe some of the bagged stuff has a lower sugar content than hay, even when soaked?
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Yup. The sugar is at least partly fermented, so for any one field of grass it should be lower if made as haylage than hay. And just like hay, it's very dependent on both the grass it was made from and when it was made. The big bale stuff I have is very high fibre, lots of stem, little leaf and not at all rich.
 
LadyGascoyne said:
https://www.horsemart.co.uk/for-sale-kyzyl-doubloon-/Horses/610604

I’ll just leave this here as I’ve always wanted one but I’m not sure I could do one justice with my happy hacker lifestyle at the moment. Four whites and a blaze too which I love on a bay.
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Very nice! I am contemplating buying a 2 year old, so that if Deza does go I don't have a companion problem. I'm also very happy to have only one horse in work over winter. He's more than I want to pay though.
 
It depends on the analysis.
Hay can have more energy in it that haylege and have less fibre .
Hay or haylege if does not matter your horse is fat reduce its Forage and give straw in some form .
I don’t really feed hard feed any more only when they are in the hardest work in depths of winter so if my horses get fatter I have no choice but to reduce forage .
In summer that means restricting their grass as well .
 
Michen said:
What a shame but you've had a fun few months with her and she's given you a spanish fix! Now your one step closer to the "right" horse.

But the crux of it is, clearly she hasn't grabbed you/you aren't bothered about her enough to "make" it work like you would if she had completely captured you. So I suspect there are other things about her that aren't perfect for you, either, otherwise you'd be more inclined to do so. And there's nothing wrong with that at all- horses are meant to be fun and whilst I'd do anything in the world to make things work for Boggle, I'm afraid if Bear was impacting my life negatively for some reason, I'd sell him too.

Sell her to someone who will adore her no matter what and find something that you will adore for all the right reasons. Life is too short!
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This 100%. We can chat about haylage v hay all night. This horse hasn't grabbed your heart. She's clearly a lovely horse who will easily find a great home.

We can't be the right match for every horse.
 
milliepops said:
just round the corner from me. I know the girl who took it in hand showing.
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Me too!! :) :) I have always wanted an Akyl Teke but I don't think they are always easy, temperament wise...!! I think the Kyzyl Teke's are good and are British bred by someone who knows them well but I have always wondered about wise it is to take a Teke out of it's natural environment; they are a bit of a specialist sort of horse care-wise I understand. :)
 
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