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We have been in London today. The tubes were very crowded. Jammed in one carriage was a skinny XL bully held by a man who seemed a little the worse for wear (was sitting slumped on the floor). Now we were in our city best but obviously still smelt of dog. It pulled over to us and sniffed our legs studiously. The rest of the carriage sort of did this 😳😳😳😳😳. OH said ‘I hope no one stands on its paw while it’s sniffing me’.
No harm done but I’m glad we are not nervous around dogs as we’d have been totally petrified.
No muzzle then? :mad:
 

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I know I post this quite regularly on this thread, you’re probably sick of it, but it still is an issue for me that people see their dog being off lead as a right rather than a privilege.

Walks most days are ruined by this. It’s really not hard - no recall, no off lead walking. I have a young fizzy dog, who gets over excited at the sound of a butterfly flapping its wings in Japan, and has zero recall. He would be one of these dogs that drives me bonkers. He stays on a long lead. He will stay on this till he has 100% recall. He still gets ample exercise and is quite content on said long lead, flaffing with the other two who are off lead.

One of these took a long time to get recall. She stayed on a long lead too until she was reliable - this took a few years, I wasn’t prepared to take any chances. The other one came out of the womb with great recall and off lead walking to heel so is different.

It’s just not that hard. I find myself dreading leaving the house with them now unless we are going somewhere very remote, which depends on OH as driver. Since we moved more ‘in land’ it’s much worse with other dogs. I never thought it could affect your life/the things you enjoy eg dog walking, quite so much.

Today I was covered in mud from a young, and may I add totally lovely and friendly, cane corso/neo mastiff type who had no recall or obedience - and seemed to care as little for his owner as the owner did for him (owner was on FaceTime and didn’t seem to notice they were dog less). I did send a photo to OH and say could we have dog number four, he was very nice - but not the point.
 

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It’s just not that hard. I find myself dreading leaving the house with them now unless we are going somewhere very remote, which depends on OH as driver. Since we moved more ‘in land’ it’s much worse with other dogs. I never thought it could affect your life/the things you enjoy eg dog walking, quite so much.

This is why this happens most mornings. My partner thinks I'm bonkers and I'm sure my neighbours must do too if they hear the car leaving.

This morning I ran a little late, leaving at 3.39am 🤣

But honestly it is just the most wonderful thing. Having an hour on the forest. The quiet. Peace. Not a soul around.
 

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This is why this happens most mornings. My partner thinks I'm bonkers and I'm sure my neighbours must do too if they hear the car leaving.

This morning I ran a little late, leaving at 3.39am 🤣

But honestly it is just the most wonderful thing. Having an hour on the forest. The quiet. Peace. Not a soul around.

I mean, that does sound lovely minus the 3:30am part!
 

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Today I was covered in mud from a young, and may I add totally lovely and friendly, cane corso/neo mastiff type who had no recall or obedience - and seemed to care as little for his owner as the owner did for him (owner was on FaceTime and didn’t seem to notice they were dog less). I did send a photo to OH and say could we have dog number four, he was very nice - but not the point.

Speaking of phones. Last week walking the big girl, a lab left the owner and ran at us, stopped a short distance away and then stood barking at us. The owner, much further behind said dog, was staring at his phone. He managed a brief glance to see what was going on then it was back to the phone, made no attempt to call the dog. It's not very nice for the big girl to have to put with that. It was easier to turn round and walk the other way, which is what we did.
 
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One on pets 4 homes

'It's with a heavy heart that I have to rehome my Jack Russell George. He's 9 years old. Unfortunately he's not getting on with my cats. He attacks and tries to nip them. I've had 2 of my cats before I got George so he's had 9 years with them. So no clue whys hes become grumpy with them. I haven't taken rehoming lighty but i think this is the best choice for George and my cats. '

Another dog who has had a drastic temperament change and no mention of any veterinary investigations.
 

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I hadn't looked on P4H for the longest time, appears it's still as depressing as ever. Their new format with the ticks and crosses against the 'health and docs' section might at least give people more pause for thought than the old layout did.

I am the irresponsible owner today, two stopper pads and one hock skinned. 🫥
 

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Here's a weird one. I am not sure if this is irresponsible, entitled, or fine.

We were hacking through Mugdock today. It was hoachin, being New Year's Day and first nice day in forever. Some distance ahead, I see a chap with 8 or 9 off lead golden retrievers bounding ahead of him. That's a lot of dogs. Soon after we spotted him, we (me riding, Mr. Caol Ila on foot) pulled about 5m off the trail to assess the situation. A random dude out for his New Year's walk strolled past, stopped, then commented, "There's a lot of off-lead dogs over there" in a tone implying he had views of this. I said, "Yeah, I see that. That's why we've stopped. I'm trying to figure out what they're gonna do and what I'm gonna do." We stared at the dogs and they all seemed to gather under a tree a few meters off the trail and were just sitting there. Okay. OH and I surmised he was waiting for us, so we tentatively walked on. All 8/9 dogs were in a perfect sit/stay under a tree, under the control of a guy in a kind of a game-keepery outfit, and we ambled past and all dogs stayed perfectly still. Once we'd gone up the trail a wee bit, he released them, and they all barrelled off ahead of the handler. I did hear barking when they encountered other dogs. And everyone had a freakin dog today.

The good: they were all very trained, and the handler obviously had a lot of control and enough sense to put them into a sit/stay for a passing horse.

The bad: is it really responsible to walk your pack of 8/9 dogs (however well-trained) off lead in a popular country park on the outskirts of a big city, on a day when it's likely to be busier than normal? If I was walking a dog-reactive dog (even on-lead), I'd have shat a brick if I saw 8/9 dogs galloping towards me. Also, people like small children, or my mother, who is very, very phobic of dogs, might have found that incredibly scary. It was easy enough for the guy to see us at a distance, because myself and horse are covered in hi-viz, and he was obviously savvy enough to know how to react to an oncoming horse, but how can he know if the random person or other dog his huge pack is running up to/around isn't going to be very scared? He probably could call them back quickly, but not before traumatising someone and/or their dog/child.

The guy we chatted to, who had already negotiated them because he was walking in the opposite direction, was clearly not impressed.
 

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I wouldn’t walk somewhere busy as I’m crowd averse and don’t trust others dog training but I’d walk my 5 off lead in a park or on the beach. They don’t run ahead of me barking, and it’s maybe not comparable as crowds do my head in.
 

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Walking multiple dogs off leash must mean having to carry a lot of poo bags!
Hah. Yeah. That sounds grim.

There are a million places to go nearby which aren't as busy. It's one of the more popular parks around Glasgow. We couldn't figure out why he was there, of all places. We could kind of track his progress through the park because we'd hear a lot of barking. I suspect even dogs with fairly normal social skills were a bit WTF, seeing a pack of 8/9 running down the trail.
 

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People understandably find the sight of a load of off lead dogs intimidating.

Dog owner is likely congratulating himself on having good recall on all his dogs, and is oblivious of the fear and alarm that he is causing in the general public 🙄. He is a dick for walking them off lead in a busy area.

What would have happened if other dogs will poor or no recall had rushed over to ‘play’ with his dogs?
 

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Typical Sun. In all fairness to the woman she does sound more panicked than finding it amusing, and I suspect it may be a head cam rather than a phone she is filming with. Either way she is lucky her dogs didn't get booted.
 

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The good: they were all very trained, and the handler obviously had a lot of control and enough sense to put them into a sit/stay for a passing horse.

At a generous estimate, 50% of the dogs I see put into a stay as I pass will break it so it’s not the reassurance it should be.

I actually sought out the park yesterday for training reasons (she was an angel 🙌) and yep, all the dogs you only see on bank holidays and shite left everywhere.
 

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Putting a dog in a stay rather than keeping everyone moving can create tension/Mexican standoff type behavior which then boils over once the moving object starts to pass by. If it works, great, but a lot of people do it when their dog isn't solid, thinking they are doing the right thing and it creates more problems.
 

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Putting a dog in a stay rather than keeping everyone moving can create tension/Mexican standoff type behavior which then boils over once the moving object starts to pass by. If it works, great, but a lot of people do it when their dog isn't solid, thinking they are doing the right thing and it creates more problems.
I sit/stay mine off the path as people don’t tend to like walking towards 5 dogs at heel, even if I’ve put them on leads I think people prefer me out the way. So they can walk past with their hysterical dog 😄. That’s not aimed at you btw!
 
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