Irresponsible Owners

[GSD Woman]

With all the nice, stable dogs needing homes why are big, sketchy, +/- biters being rehomed?

probably an unpopular view but some dogs just need to go visit Jesus.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

It certainly would be the kindest thing in many cases!

 

[Pippity]

With all the nice, stable dogs needing homes why are big, sketchy, +/- biters being rehomed?

probably an unpopular view but some dogs just need to go visit Jesus.

I feel the same about rescues pouring money into dogs with illnesses/injuries/birth defects that will stop them living a normal life. Sure, Rover can run around on his prosthetics with some level of constant pain, but how many more dogs could you have helped with that money?

 

[SadKen]

I feel the same about rescues pouring money into dogs with illnesses/injuries/birth defects that will stop them living a normal life. Sure, Rover can run around on his prosthetics with some level of constant pain, but how many more dogs could you have helped with that money?

Defects raise money via the sympathy vote.

Big dogs with a bite history appeal to people who think they can sort them out, and play the hero. ‘Only I understood him’.

Emotive claptrap on both counts.

 

[Smitty]

I just dont get why the owners of these dogs get so agressive when all you want is for your dog to be left alone. Why do they think they have the right to demand that yout dog interacts with theirs?

 

[CorvusCorax]

Because they know they can't control their dogs/don't like the inference that they aren't great at something and are redirecting their frustration.

Whereas the rest of us would/should be mortified and apologetic.

 

[skinnydipper]

I think that many people with "he's just being friendly" dogs don't realise that actually their dog has poor social skills and neither the dog nor their owner are able to understand the target dog's body language when it is clearly saying "I'm not interested, don't bother me". When their dog persists they’ll blame the target dog when things escalate from a head turn and moving away to something far less subtle.

 

[blackcob]

I can almost forgive them not understanding dog body language but the ones that can’t even take a hint from a human absolutely boil my piss.

If somebody is very obviously working on something, worst case scenario is skulking out of the way with a tight lead and a worried expression, or sees you and immediately changes direction, starts shovelling food into their dog, produces a toy and plugs their gob with it, starts chirping breezy ‘this way’ and ‘good boy/girl’ etc. then they really ought to take a hint.

 

[Clodagh]

Well I never did!

 

[Titchy Pony]

Well I never did!

They might have a long wait to find the owner...

 

[Cinnamontoast]

I think that many people with "he's just being friendly" dogs don't realise that actually their dog has poor social skills and neither the dog nor their owner are able to understand the target dog's body language when it is clearly saying "I'm not interested, don't bother me". When their dog persists they’ll blame the target dog when things escalate from a head turn and moving away to something far less subtle.

This pees me right off. My cousin was delighted to have our dogs meet last year, hers is a goldendoodle, great with the kids etc. Unfortunately, its ’play style’ is running up to other dogs and knocking them over. My youngsters were horrified! We put ours on the lead and took them to the seating area while the doodle ran laps around the seats, down the stairs and onto the beach. She was wrangling 4 kids, so we didn’t whinge, but if my dogs tried that, they would not be allowed free rein to keep doing it. I’m amazed that Bear didn’t tell him off, probably cos my OH intervened early doors.

 

[misst]

Well on my neighbourhood website someone is asking for signatures on a petition to stop Theresa Coffey banning e-collars. It is titled "dogs and sheep will die if this bill is allowed through". Apparently the best way to stop dogs chasing sheep is to put an e-collar on it. This is guaranteed to produce success every time. I have suggested perhaps an old fashioned lead around livestock, horses, other dogs on lead and anyone who is uncomfortable around dogs might be more appropriate and correct. I said some basic recall training is always good and an if a dog is worrying livestock that is the owners problem not the dogs - an e-collar makes it the dogs problem. I asked why dogs would be around sheep without a lead.
Apparently I am cruel and risk my dogs life and that of other dogs, sheep, goats and other livestock as I obviously don't care if dogs get shot or animals are mauled to death. I just despair. Its frightening.

 

[GSD Woman]

It is titled "dogs and sheep will die if this bill is allowed through". Apparently the best way to stop dogs chasing sheep is to put an e-collar on it. This is guaranteed to produce success every time. I have suggested perhaps an old fashioned lead around livestock, horses, other dogs on lead and anyone who is uncomfortable around dogs might be more appropriate and correct. I said some basic recall training is always good and an if a dog is worrying livestock that is the owners problem not the dogs - an e-collar makes it the dogs problem. I asked why dogs would be around sheep without a lead.

I'll never understand not having a dog off lead around livestock. I used to walk my dogs in a public park where many people walked their dogs off lead. I could call my dogs over to me and have them do a sit stay until whatever had passed by. One of my proudest moments was when the men setting up for Tuesday bike races passed me. One was a bit worried. The other told him not to worry, my dogs weren't a problem.
Anyway, one day there was a couple walking a springer on lead. I told everyone to get their dogs to them and to leash or hold onto them. One woman made the mistake of telling me that their dog was on lead so it was their problem. I informed her that in the park dogs were supposed to be on lead. Her little mouth dropped.

p.s. I've used e-collars under certain circumstances but that was after the dog was trained and then conditioned to the collar.

 

[skinnydipper]

p.s. I've used e-collars under certain circumstances but that was after the dog was trained and then conditioned to the collar.

I assume this is the dog where you asked for help because squirting her with water didn't work to stop her barking.

The one you throw a chain at because she doesn't want to get in the car with you.

 

[Jenko109]

Shit is about to hit the fan....

I like you both but love a bit of Horse and Hound drama

*sorry, not sorry*

 

[GSD Woman]

I'll never understand not having a dog off lead around livestock.

That should be having a dog off lead around livestock. Not not having a dog off lead around livestock.

banging my head in frustration over this.

 

[Ratface]

My favourite hate is people having ill-mannered, untrained dogs on extending leads where the owner doesn't reel them in and lock the lead when they're rushing towards me. We have several here. I turn sideways, avoid eye contact with the dog and ask the owner to remove them from my space. Owners then get unpleasant. "Oh I'm surprised you're frightened of dogs - you've got a horse. They're far more dangerous." I almost always manage to remain polite. The dogs in question are all small, Jack Russell x?
When Kevin Kat was alive, he used to rush in front of me and frighten them off. He got a reputation of being dangerous. Yes. Don't mess with Kevin Kat.
Can't see Bingo doing that, but I'm sure she has many other assets.

 

[Jenko109]

That reminds me actually.

Last summer, we took the dogs to a local ish place where we would never normally walk.

We went about 6.30am, intending to keep all dogs on lead as we assumed we would see other people. One of mine can be reactive.

We are in the car park with the boot open getting leads on. All three dogs sat patiently.

A man enters the car park walking his labradoodle type dog on one of the extending leads. Does not call his dog back to heel or stop the lead extending. Instead he keeps walking towards us and allows his dog to literally jump up at the back of my car to greet my dogs.

Of course my reactive one went understandably batshit having a big dog get in her face and in her safe space too.

The owner got an absolute earful from me. He was very lucky that my reactive one is nothing more than noise.

 

[maisie06]

Just seen a dog shelter advertise a 75 kilo Ovcharka for rehoming after it was surrendered to a dog pound.

"Dislikes : Other dogs, seeing other dogs, being anywhere in the vicinity of other dogs.
She cannot share a home with any other dog, cannot be able to see neighboring dog/no nearby roads/lanes where other people walk their dogs.
Ideally her new home should be in a very private secluded area with no/very little traffic/visitors."

Should be PTS sounds like a recipe for disaster...

 

[Splash2310]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/eventingukfb/permalink/6085314941521667/

Talking of irresponsible owners… there was a dog loose on the XC course at Badminton today

 

[Clodagh]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/eventingukfb/permalink/6085314941521667/

Talking of irresponsible owners… there was a dog loose on the XC course at Badminton today

There is always at least one. But they are having a lovely time.

 

[Tiddlypom]

There were a number of dogs off lead when course walking on Friday (first dressage day), despite the clear rule that all dogs should be on leads. Entitled feckwit owners.

OH and I reckoned that anyone found with their dog off lead should be immediately required to leave the event. A stiff fine wouldn't be sufficient deterrent.

And no dogs to be allowed at all on XC day. It's far too busy.

 

[cauda equina]

2 dogs shot by police yesterday

Met stands by officers after man Tasered and two dogs shot dead in London

Footage on social media showed officers pursuing a man holding two dogs on a short lead along a canal in Limehouse

www.theguardian.com

 

[skinnydipper]

I watched a video last night. I'll see if I can find it and post the link.


ETA.

I was going to post the link but thought better of it. It didn't have to end the way it did. Briefly, the Police asked the owner to give the dogs up and he refused and allowed a very aggressive dog to run at the Police.

Edit. He was very close to the Police when he let the dog go.

Police statement:

 

[Clodagh]

Not the same level but I was working at the pub yesterday and a family of four were in the beer garden with 2 dogs. I approached their table with their food and the Frenchie (I know, small and cute, right). Absolutely flew at me, only stopped by the fact it was tied to the table leg. I pointed out if it bit methey were going home hungry. ‘Oh she won’t bite you, she’s a dear’. Man picked it up and put it in his lap where it sad rigid, staring and licking its lips. I put all their plates the far side of the table and left them to sort them out.
When I went back to clear I again refused to lean over it and asked them to stack the plates to the side for me. Much eye rolling at my timidity.
I was spitting!

 

[Morwenna]

Not the same level but I was working at the pub yesterday and a family of four were in the beer garden with 2 dogs. I approached their table with their food and the Frenchie (I know, small and cute, right). Absolutely flew at me, only stopped by the fact it was tied to the table leg. I pointed out if it bit methey were going home hungry. ‘Oh she won’t bite you, she’s a dear’. Man picked it up and put it in his lap where it sad rigid, staring and licking its lips. I put all their plates the far side of the table and left them to sort them out.
When I went back to clear I again refused to lean over it and asked them to stack the plates to the side for me. Much eye rolling at my timidity.
I was spitting!

I am starting to think there needs to be a theory test before people are given a license to have a dog. Just the basics of training, feeding and care and body language. So many people are oblivious to what their dog is telling them.

 

[MurphysMinder]

I am starting to think there needs to be a theory test before people are given a license to have a dog. Just the basics of training, feeding and care and body language. So many people are oblivious to what their dog is telling them.

Thinking about it, this is sort of what I used to do to prospective puppy owners when I used to breed. I got quite clever at asking what were almost trick questions so they weren't just giving me the answers they thought I wanted to hear. Yes some got offended, but at least that sorted out those I didn't want to have a pup of mine.

 

[AmyMay]

I watched a video last night. I'll see if I can find it and post the link.


ETA.

I was going to post the link but thought better of it. It didn't have to end the way it did. Briefly, the Police asked the owner to give the dogs up and he refused and allowed a very aggressive dog to run at the Police.

Edit. He was very close to the Police when he let the dog go.

Police statement:

Just watched the video. Without knowing any real context, the actions of the police seem grossly over the top.

 

[skinnydipper]

Just watched the video. Without knowing any real context, the actions of the police seem grossly over the top.

The Police didn't have time to form a committee, they had to make a split second decision in a dangerous situation.

 

[AmyMay]

The Police didn't have time to form a committee, they had to make a split second decision in a dangerous situation.

As I said, without knowing the context……