Clodagh
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Because they have to prove their dog whisperer qualifications? It’s just arrogance imo.
Irresponsible Owners
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CanteringCarrot
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I turned my back for too long and my Cane Corso got into my chicken run. Only 2 sides are properly fortified, as I'm working on it right now (they have a secure coop) and was messing about with the chickens. Feathers a flyin but no injuries to anyone. Thank goodness for a strong leave it command.
The neighbors Great Dane jumped two fences to get into my garden to see what the spectacle was all about. So there's me dragging a CC and GD across the garden. GD's owner was right at my gate.
Labrador was watching from afar knowing that it's best to stay out of it!
So I feel irresponsible for not paying attention. However, if the CC really had malicious intent she would've killed a few in that short time I imagine. Not sure what her plan was! Usually it's the Labrador killing things (mainly wild rabbits).
The Dane is very submissive to people, and fine with female dogs. Thank goodness!
So, back to finishing the run and scolding myself!
I will say that once the CC learns something is absolutely off limits and/or a part of the family, she is respectful...when her owner is actually on the ball with it!
The neighbors Great Dane jumped two fences to get into my garden to see what the spectacle was all about. So there's me dragging a CC and GD across the garden. GD's owner was right at my gate.
Labrador was watching from afar knowing that it's best to stay out of it!
So I feel irresponsible for not paying attention. However, if the CC really had malicious intent she would've killed a few in that short time I imagine. Not sure what her plan was! Usually it's the Labrador killing things (mainly wild rabbits).
The Dane is very submissive to people, and fine with female dogs. Thank goodness!
So, back to finishing the run and scolding myself!
I will say that once the CC learns something is absolutely off limits and/or a part of the family, she is respectful...when her owner is actually on the ball with it!
Clodagh
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Well you must be very strong! (Or very determined). First time I let Red off lead here she went after the chickens. Luckily she didn’t know anything about anything so didn’t catch any before I rugby tackled her.
Pearlsasinger
Up in the clouds
Because they are no nothing idiots!
CanteringCarrot
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Nasicus
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I often get confused looks when I ask if it's okay to pass etc when I come across dogs with yellow/red leads/accessories.
equinerebel
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My dog does have a yellow slip on her lead as she is reactive, but I don't expect people to get close enough to read it or necessarily know why it's there. I just saw it one day, it wasn't a lot of money and I thought "eh, why not?". Main thing is, she is always on a two handled lead and I keep as far away from other dogs as I can. Unfortunately, we still get tonnes of off lead dogs bounding up to us with a distant call of "don't worry, he's friendly!"
blackcob
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It wouldn’t occur to me to react to red unless it had something written on it. I used a red lead for the small dog for a long time just because it was ‘his colour’, then again he is an angry wee shite, any accidental distance created is no bad thing. 
Clodagh
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I went down to the nature reserve for river training today (not factoring in the river is at unsafe levels, but anyway…).
You never see a soul there but this morning I met the most delightful staffie. You actually forget what lovely little dogs they are. He was only young and very confident, had a quick play with Scout once me and owner had chatted.
So this is not irresponsible but remember there are nice dogs out there, even bull breeds! (Although he was a proper light weight and lithe staffie).
You never see a soul there but this morning I met the most delightful staffie. You actually forget what lovely little dogs they are. He was only young and very confident, had a quick play with Scout once me and owner had chatted.
So this is not irresponsible but remember there are nice dogs out there, even bull breeds! (Although he was a proper light weight and lithe staffie).
CanteringCarrot
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There are!
My previous landlord had a nice little Staffie. So friendly. So sweet. Just really well socialized and the bestest little girl. Absolutely lovely.
Nasicus
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I'm probably just overly cautious, but I'm always extra conscious to give space to red or yellow leads just in case. Figure it doesn't harm anyone to do so and may prevent an incident if that is the case. Mines always on the lead anyway, so I'll usually just call over with 'mine's friendly if yours is?' which usually clears up any uncertaintly.It wouldn’t occur to me to react to red unless it had something written on it. I used a red lead for the small dog for a long time just because it was ‘his colour’, then again he is an angry wee shite, any accidental distance created is no bad thing.
Clodagh
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Most of my leads are red as it’s an easy spot colour when I drop them (often).
AmyMay
Situation normal
Mine too.
Chuffy99
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The annoying owner in the vets today who takes his dog round to say hello to his friends, my dog sitting quietly, as he approaches us I say not a good idea we’re here for ringworm. He veers rapidly off, lady next door moves, receptionists are giggling as they know we’re there for a grass seed in the ear
Works every time
Works every time
SilverLinings
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Are red leads supposed to indicate anxiety too (as well as yellow ones)? That's a little confusing as I know lots of people who use them just because they are easy to spot in the grass if you drop them/put them down (I see others have already posted this)! At least yellow seems to be a colour less commonly chosen for it's looks (although I suppose that could be said to cause confusion with guide dogs and assistance dogs who usually seem to use yellow).
Instead, could we make the stupid, antisocial people who want to get too close, say 'but dogs love me' or 'he/she just wants to say hello' wear a bright yellow boiler suit with 'IDOT, STAY AWAY' printed on it? It would save a lot of stress and I'm sure there would be no objections...
Instead, could we make the stupid, antisocial people who want to get too close, say 'but dogs love me' or 'he/she just wants to say hello' wear a bright yellow boiler suit with 'IDOT, STAY AWAY' printed on it? It would save a lot of stress and I'm sure there would be no objections...
Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
Teeny staffie bitch I see sometimes in the woods, she’s incredibly bouncy, ancient, likes to caper round my lot, who love her.
The amount of dog walkers seems to have increased recently up there: I saw one walker I know (horsey) with 8 dogs! Pretty sure that’s double the limit. Another one had dogs loose in the lane that our lot wanted to join but we’re told not to, so didn’t. Dog walker praised them for being good, it was more like sheer exhaustion! Goose, especially, doesn’t think to pace himself.
The amount of dog walkers seems to have increased recently up there: I saw one walker I know (horsey) with 8 dogs! Pretty sure that’s double the limit. Another one had dogs loose in the lane that our lot wanted to join but we’re told not to, so didn’t. Dog walker praised them for being good, it was more like sheer exhaustion! Goose, especially, doesn’t think to pace himself.
Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
It never failed to astound me how stupid some people are, telling me their untrained dog is friendly as it bounced up to Zak, who very definitely was not! Do they never stop to think someone walking away as quickly as possible saying ‘Leave it!’ might not have a mega friendly dog?! Just thick, frankly.Are red leads supposed to indicate anxiety too (as well as yellow ones)? That's a little confusing as I know lots of people who use them just because they are easy to spot in the grass if you drop them/put them down (I see others have already posted this)! At least yellow seems to be a colour less commonly chosen for it's looks (although I suppose that could be said to cause confusion with guide dogs and assistance dogs who usually seem to use yellow).
Instead, could we make the stupid, antisocial people who want to get too close, say 'but dogs love me' or 'he/she just wants to say hello' wear a bright yellow boiler suit with 'IDOT, STAY AWAY' printed on it? It would save a lot of stress and I'm sure there would be no objections...
DressageCob
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I hate those people! I was at the vets a couple of weeks ago for a grass seed in the paw and a woman came in with a yellow lab saying it was an emergency because she'd had really bad diarrhoea, was lethargic, some blood in the stool, vomited in the morning etc. She said the dog hadn't eaten anything usual, hadn't been near standing water etc so she thought it was a virus. She then proceeded to let the dog approach every other dog in the waiting area, sniff them, lick them etc. until the veterinary nurse spoke up and said it wasn't a good idea. Thankfully she spoke up before this idiot got to me because I was getting riled and I was making eye contact with the receptionists, willing them to say something.
Then because this poorly dog had wandered all over the waiting area they had to thoroughly disinfect the entire area and took away all the toys and bags of food at dog eye level (which the dog had also sniffed and licked). Hopefully the dog didn't have anything dreadfully contagious.
maisie06
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We often bump into a lady with the most delightful English Bull terrier, the dogs enjoy a bit of a play. my springer is bessotted with her.
maisie06
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Why the feck did she not leave the poor dog in the car?
I inadvertantly found a good way of getting the flexi lead fiends at the vets to reel their dogs in last week...I was carrying a muzzle in my hand! My dog is fine until the vet wants to actually touch him and he can be a bit narky so I pop a muzzle on just before the consultation, we has finished consulting so popped the muzzle back off and took the lad back to the car, guy in the waiting area started to let his cavelier come up to my dog then spotted the muzzle and reeled the dog in like it was a prize barracuda on a fishing expedition!!! My lad is actually fine with small dogs but the panic on this chaps face was a picture!!
Arzada
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It's beyond me why vets don't have waiting room 'rules' for want of a better word. Eg short leads only, do not let your dog/piranha fish etc approach other patients Pleased to hear that a receptionist spoke up. One time when I visited one particular vet with my cat we had a small family in with their pet. One of the children proceeded to practice her baton twirling. Old house, high ceilings, suspended wooden floors. She didn't catch the baton every time so there was much noise and clattering. Then there are the dogs that are permitted to approach cats in baskets. Thereafter the cat waited in the car and I went and got her when the vet called us. Yes it delayed the vet. Payment too was delayed because the cat returned to the car and then I returned to pay.
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CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
I leave dog in car til it's our turn and then put them out and come back and pay too. Some places give out a buzzer to call you, so you can go and wait in the car.
CanteringCarrot
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I was in a shop with the young one the other day, and I was quite pleased with how she's coming along. Shop owner was too (knows us well). 2 other women came in and wanted to interact with her, but I told them no, just because of a feeling I got that she wasn't into them and it'd be too much (aka these people would force themselves on her too heavily). The one woman kept staring at the her. The woman kept making staring/glaring eye contact. Eventually my dog let out a low growl, and the woman was so hurt because "all dogs love her" but I told her not to take it personally because I didn't feel like getting into an explanation.
There's another man we've met before in town that also swears that, "all dogs love him" but my dog wants nothing to do with him. I think it's because both of these people stare at her, and make such hard eye contact.
She had no issue absolutely loving another woman in the shop (woman was ok with this) and her OH who was also relaxed about it.
Same when the shop owners OH popped in through the back door (unusual and she'd never seen this man before), and she was instantly ok with him. Delivery man with huge box, also ok. So it's interesting who she chooses. Labrador exercises far less discretion.
I know the growl can be controversial, but I rather a dog give a clear sign that they're uncomfortable so I can listen and act accordingly. Body language can be enough of a tell, in most cases. Generally, when a dog feels listened to or senses that you respect their feelings on a matter, they're less likely to escalate, or show no signs and just snap, IME. I find that when people scold certain expressions too hard, ignore it, or discourage it, these are the dogs that "snap/act without warning" or are prone to aggression. If a dog communicates stress (which is what growling is, with the exception of play growling), then it's on you to redirect and change the situation. Of course you should continue with socialization and other training as an overall approach.
I will say that overall this dog gives a series of signs and slowly escalates instead of going 0 to 100. Same when she sees something unfamiliar on the property. It starts with body language, maybe hackles raised, and some low muffled warning barks. She's respectful when I call her off. Lab goes zero to full bark mode...at an outdoor rubbish bin that looked different in the dark.
So maybe I'm irresponsible for letting my dog growl, but it's not a common thing, and I'm ok with it. I also wonder if dogs sense things about certain people and some dogs are more fine tuned to this than others.
There's another man we've met before in town that also swears that, "all dogs love him" but my dog wants nothing to do with him. I think it's because both of these people stare at her, and make such hard eye contact.
She had no issue absolutely loving another woman in the shop (woman was ok with this) and her OH who was also relaxed about it.
Same when the shop owners OH popped in through the back door (unusual and she'd never seen this man before), and she was instantly ok with him. Delivery man with huge box, also ok. So it's interesting who she chooses. Labrador exercises far less discretion.
I know the growl can be controversial, but I rather a dog give a clear sign that they're uncomfortable so I can listen and act accordingly. Body language can be enough of a tell, in most cases. Generally, when a dog feels listened to or senses that you respect their feelings on a matter, they're less likely to escalate, or show no signs and just snap, IME. I find that when people scold certain expressions too hard, ignore it, or discourage it, these are the dogs that "snap/act without warning" or are prone to aggression. If a dog communicates stress (which is what growling is, with the exception of play growling), then it's on you to redirect and change the situation. Of course you should continue with socialization and other training as an overall approach.
I will say that overall this dog gives a series of signs and slowly escalates instead of going 0 to 100. Same when she sees something unfamiliar on the property. It starts with body language, maybe hackles raised, and some low muffled warning barks. She's respectful when I call her off. Lab goes zero to full bark mode...at an outdoor rubbish bin that looked different in the dark.
So maybe I'm irresponsible for letting my dog growl, but it's not a common thing, and I'm ok with it. I also wonder if dogs sense things about certain people and some dogs are more fine tuned to this than others.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Like, no direct eye contact is doggy 101...
I really worry when people get after/extinguish behaviour a dog that's genuinely worried/upset. It's like pouring petrol on a fire and interferes with the trust.
'Hey Mom, I'm worried about that thing'
The person they trust: 'ARGH! BAD DOG!'
'Wow, that thing is really bad now'
My old dog was quite delightful with people until he was quite mature and some silly wagon approached him at the back of the car (he was in a safe place, and elevated) staring at him, hand outstretched, came at him almost in slow motion level with him.
She volunteered at a rescue and knew all about how to approach dogs
He started rumbling at her and she backed off. Winning! For years, if he didn't want anyone coming near him, low rumble. When I left him in kennels I had to tell people to 'pretend there is no dog'. I worked for years to get him over it and had many arguments with my trainer over it.
He's fine now, still aloof but mostly tolerates attention/fuss.
My young female stared at and went stiff/hackly when a kid was hanging out of a tree last weekend (THINGS WHERE THINGS SHOULDN'T BE!) so I let the line go slack so there was no tension, support, she looked back at me and I marked and ran backwards and gave her a party because she'd taken her attention off the strange thing.
The alternative was tell her off and accidentally make her think that kids are dangerous.
I really worry when people get after/extinguish behaviour a dog that's genuinely worried/upset. It's like pouring petrol on a fire and interferes with the trust.
'Hey Mom, I'm worried about that thing'
The person they trust: 'ARGH! BAD DOG!'
'Wow, that thing is really bad now'
My old dog was quite delightful with people until he was quite mature and some silly wagon approached him at the back of the car (he was in a safe place, and elevated) staring at him, hand outstretched, came at him almost in slow motion level with him.
She volunteered at a rescue and knew all about how to approach dogs
He started rumbling at her and she backed off. Winning! For years, if he didn't want anyone coming near him, low rumble. When I left him in kennels I had to tell people to 'pretend there is no dog'. I worked for years to get him over it and had many arguments with my trainer over it.
He's fine now, still aloof but mostly tolerates attention/fuss.
My young female stared at and went stiff/hackly when a kid was hanging out of a tree last weekend (THINGS WHERE THINGS SHOULDN'T BE!) so I let the line go slack so there was no tension, support, she looked back at me and I marked and ran backwards and gave her a party because she'd taken her attention off the strange thing.
The alternative was tell her off and accidentally make her think that kids are dangerous.
Smitty
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I saw a chap walk straight into Home Bargains the other day with THREE dogs with 'Assistance Dog' on their leads. I think that is taking it a bit far.
I am in full support of those people who do need a dog to enable them to leave their home, shop etc but I think three is honestly not helping the scheme and imposing on the shops goodwill.
I am in full support of those people who do need a dog to enable them to leave their home, shop etc but I think three is honestly not helping the scheme and imposing on the shops goodwill.
ArklePig
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My dog hates things where they shouldn't be too @CorvusCorax
A couple of weeks ago my neighbour was working under his car and when he slid out she HOWLED. poor man. Luckily I had her fave toy in my pocket.
A couple of weeks ago my neighbour was working under his car and when he slid out she HOWLED. poor man. Luckily I had her fave toy in my pocket.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Men Up Ladders are also very disturbing, apparently.
Alwaysmoretoknow
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I've always been a bit baffled by the 'social' water bowl at my (previous) vet practice. Wtaf - have they not heard of bio-security measures? Because I so want my dog to drink out of a water bowl that has been drunken out of by who knows what other possible dogs with who knows what other possible infectious diseases. Surely a competent practice should also enforce a 'no contact' rule in the waiting room for the same reason as well as the possible distress it could cause to other patients.
rabatsa
Confuddled
It is a little owl sitting on top of a yard light that really worries my GSD, she will growl with her hackles up when in the kitchen if she can spot it through the window.
blackcob
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Whether you do or don't provide a water bowl, some batshit client will write a two-page diatribe to the practice manager about it.