Irresponsible Owners

scats said:
He had a visit from the police a few months ago when it attacked a collie and cost the owner thousands in vet fees.
Apparently the police gave the dog a ‘good report’ (whatever that means :rolleyes:)
He’s a good talker, very sociable, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he can talk people round and convince them it was an accident. He has told people the collie incident happened because the dogs had a fight over a ball. I was chatting to a man last night who had the Rottie lunge at his leg but thankfully it was pulled away before it made contact. Owner said he was ‘playing’.

Not sure what will happen this time. The previous visit didn’t make him keep it on lead.
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Yikes :-(
The police also gave the rottie in our case a good report. And told us what a lovely dog it was when they met it. We were pretty shocked at their lack of empathy with us given we were the victims. I wonder if officers are given training/guidelines to follow to 'assess' dogs in these situations? Ours seemed to think that as he was able to tickle it's tummy it wouldn't have any issues interacting with other dogs :-S

I hope your situation gets sorted for you all.

ETA - I don't have an issue with rotties in general, but I do think they need experienced and responsible owners.
 
Chucho said:
Yikes :-(
The police also gave the rottie in our case a good report. And told us what a lovely dog it was when they met it. We were pretty shocked at their lack of empathy with us given we were the victims. I wonder if officers are given training/guidelines to follow to 'assess' dogs in these situations? Ours seemed to think that as he was able to tickle it's tummy it wouldn't have any issues interacting with other dogs :-S

I hope your situation gets sorted for you all.

ETA - I don't have an issue with rotties in general, but I do think they need experienced and responsible owners.
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The scary thing is if we are relying on these officers to make a decision about whether a dog needs to be on lead and muzzled, they shouldn’t be so easily convinced by a dog who is friendly and soft in the home. What makes it worse is rottie lives with a small dog who he’s fine with, so the police probably see that and think he can’t possibly be a problem.

I know he’ll get away with it again and I’m fairly sure he will kill a dog one day, or bite a person badly.
 
Over here in France, rotties are categorised. Basically, you need to have followed a course to own one, they have to be declared to your mairie, you need extra insurance and they're not allowed out without a lead or muzzle.
Unfortunately, which breeds are categorised seems to be more down to politics than anything else and very few breeds are actually categorised and of course any new breed is not covered by the legislation eg American bullies.
 
Chucho said:
The police also gave the rottie in our case a good report. And told us what a lovely dog it was when they met it. We were pretty shocked at their lack of empathy with us given we were the victims. I wonder if officers are given training/guidelines to follow to 'assess' dogs in these situations? Ours seemed to think that as he was able to tickle it's tummy it wouldn't have any issues interacting with other dogs :-S
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I suppose this is where police underfunding comes in. With unlimited funds, one would hope they’d hire a dog expert witness who could assess the dog properly, even if there’s not going to be a court case at the end of it. At present, it seems most witnesses are hired by the dog’s owner after it’s bitten someone already.
 
Took the boys to the woods, just got the boot open when a labradoodle came pelting over, owner calling it to no avail. We waited for it to go away, it started growling at the youngsters. It’s a good job Bear was on the other side of my OH and is deaf. It finally went away, but come on, put your dog on the lead going into a carpark, no matter how quiet, or train it to heel and bloody recall when told! It was a big dog.
 
I was walking the boundary of our land today with all three dogs, sister is away, and spotted a goldie loose on the footpath along the top boundary. I think his owners were picking blackberries. As soon as he spotted us he came gambolling down then deviated towards the sheep. Not aggressive, just typical cheerful goldie. I yelled at him and my dogs diverted him. His owners started yelling 'Ralphie' for all the good it did. My dogs and I shepherded him back to them and I was so pleased with mine that they all came back to me instead of going to the other dog and its owners. I just told them to 'keep that thing on the lead in the field' and the man said 'will do'. Hope that was a wake up call for them. At least they didn't get bolshy as some do.
 
stangs said:
I suppose this is where police underfunding comes in. With unlimited funds, one would hope they’d hire a dog expert witness who could assess the dog properly, even if there’s not going to be a court case at the end of it. At present, it seems most witnesses are hired by the dog’s owner after it’s bitten someone already.
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You would think a police dog handler would go and speak to the owner
 
Saw someone today with a poo cross on lead, my 3 were on lead as well. Poor dog had its tail right down and owner was jerking on the lead telling it to sit, which it did, it then got up and owner yanked it and shouted sit, dog sat . No praise for the dog so he was unaware that he had done the right thing this carried on and when I got parallel to him I suggested that praise would be a good idea. Owner not impressed and yanked dog up from sit and dragged it away. I’m not a poo fan but really would have liked to have taken it off him as he was so rough with it and it was very cowed… it quite upset me
 
Went out to lunch with mum today. I got up to pay and there was a woman with a dachshund standing by the bar. The dog walked towards me, wagging, so I spoke to her ‘hello aren’t you lovely’ sort of thing. I didn’t pat her. The woman didn’t even look round, just felt the lead move slightly (dog hadn’t pulled it taut) and flew the dog by its neck to behind her and said ‘for God’s sake’. I said ‘unnecessary’ and went and sat down. My mum, possibly the most unlikely person in the world to say anything, told this woman off! Deeply impressive. Woman didn’t reply but dragged poor Daxie, tail down and trembling, saying ‘good girl’(?) and tied her up to a chair before coming back to further along the bar. She wasn’t escaping mum that easily!
‘You should be ashamed… ‘ your dog is scared of you, does that make you proud’… etc. I’m stunned!
 
Clodagh said:
Went out to lunch with mum today. I got up to pay and there was a woman with a dachshund standing by the bar. The dog walked towards me, wagging, so I spoke to her ‘hello aren’t you lovely’ sort of thing. I didn’t pat her. The woman didn’t even look round, just felt the lead move slightly (dog hadn’t pulled it taut) and flew the dog by its neck to behind her and said ‘for God’s sake’. I said ‘unnecessary’ and went and sat down. My mum, possibly the most unlikely person in the world to say anything, told this woman off! Deeply impressive. Woman didn’t reply but dragged poor Daxie, tail down and trembling, saying ‘good girl’(?) and tied her up to a chair before coming back to further along the bar. She wasn’t escaping mum that easily!
‘You should be ashamed… ‘ your dog is scared of you, does that make you proud’… etc. I’m stunned!
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Your mum sounds brilliant!
 
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