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maisie06

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Pretty sure they AI most bulldogs or use a cradle to strap the bitch onto so that she can be mated as their conformation makes it very difficult otherwise.
In that case they should be allowed to die out as a breed, they also have to give birth by C section...makes me ashamed to be human...what we have done to some animals in the name of fashion. So bloody cruel.
 

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And the Blue Cross are still pushing their Bully.

EDT, she’s been reserved….
Aside from whether they know enough about the dog's background to be sure it hasn't already displayed aggression, surely it is irresponsible to rehome a breed that is about to be banned? No re-homer is able to make an informed decision about whether they can meet the dogs needs as the exact wording of the law regarding the owning and handling of existing XLBs hasn't yet been decided.
 

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Aside from whether they know enough about the dog's background to be sure it hasn't already displayed aggression, surely it is irresponsible to rehome a breed that is about to be banned? No re-homer is able to make an informed decision about whether they can meet the dogs needs as the exact wording of the law regarding the owning and handling of existing XLBs hasn't yet been decided.
Of course it’s irresponsible.

To be fair, she’s a puppy who may be completely delightful.

But….
 

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Of course it’s irresponsible.

To be fair, she’s a puppy who may be completely delightful.

But….
I didn't mean to sound like I was objecting to your post, I was trying to agree (in a slightly ranty way!). I'm not sure some of the charities have thought very hard about the implications of rehoming XLBs at the moment TBH. It is good to hear that this one is a puppy though as she should be a bit more of a clean slate than the older ones up for adoption.
 

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Words fail me! How can you let your dog get into this state? I can understand you might let a dog get a bit overweight, but feeding cakes and biscuits?!
 

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Walking along a very popular Peak District riverside footpath with the JRT on her lead. All dogs to be on leads.

Came across a couple with a medium sized mongrel apiece, standing chatting to another person. They were blocking the narrow path. We slowed up, thinking that they would move out of the way, but they didn’t. It was the river on one side and a steep rocky outcrop on the other, so we couldn‘t side step them.

’Can we come past, please?’ I asked in a friendly way. ‘Oh yes, you’re fine’ the woman replied, but without moving out of the way.

‘Um’, I said, ‘I can see that you are holding a muzzle in your hand, we’ll wait back here where it’s a bit wider so that you can come past’.

‘Oh, he’s only vicious if he’s approached by other dogs 😳’ she replied very huffily, although she did do as I asked, and we got past unscathed.

‘See, your dog wasn’t bothered at all’ the bloke told me patronisingly as he walked past. Grr.
 
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Walking along a very popular Peak District riverside footpath with the JRT on her lead. All dogs to be on leads.

Came across a couple with a medium sized mongrel apiece, standing chatting to another person. They were blocking the narrow path. We slowed up, thinking that they would move out of the way, but they didn’t. It was the river on one side and a steep rocky outcrop on the other, so we couldn‘t side step them.

’Can we come past, please?’ I asked in a friendly way. ‘Oh yes, you’re fine’ the woman replied, but without moving out of the way.

‘Um’, I said, ‘I can see that you are holding a muzzle in your hand, we’ll wait back here where it’s a bit wider so you that you can come past’.

‘Oh, he’s only vicious if he’s approached by other dogs 😳’ she replied very huffily, although she did do as I asked, and we got past unscathed.

‘See, your dog wasn’t bothered at all’ the bloke told me patronisingly as he walked past. Grr.

If the dog needs a muzzle he should have had it on.

It's a good job your JRT wasn't one of those off leash 'it's okay she's friendly' dogs because it could have ended badly
 
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There’s a really attractive young merle collie, lives across the valley. There’s a lot of free range dogs round here but mostly they stay within shouting distance of home.
This boy ‘Bob’ goes all over. He’s turned up at the pub twice. To get there he has gone through a farm with a lot of sheep.
His owner is rabid about off lead dogs. Not only on her land (fair enough, her land her rules) but even where we walk our dogs on the land across from her boundary she comes and stares. She’s actually pleasant enough IRL but slightly unhinged. She’s reported her neighbour endlessly for letting her dog roam.
So on FB last week a Missing presumed stolen post as Bob had gone missing… again. Overnight this time. ‘Much loved family pet’ etc. Funnily enough he turned up the next day, rumour has it looking like he’d had a fun night.
If he was so loved you’d think they’d kennel or house him. 🤷‍♀️
 

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There’s a really attractive young merle collie, lives across the valley. There’s a lot of free range dogs round here but mostly they stay within shouting distance of home.
This boy ‘Bob’ goes all over. He’s turned up at the pub twice. To get there he has gone through a farm with a lot of sheep.
His owner is rabid about off lead dogs. Not only on her land (fair enough, her land her rules) but even where we walk our dogs on the land across from her boundary she comes and stares. She’s actually pleasant enough IRL but slightly unhinged. She’s reported her neighbour endlessly for letting her dog roam.
So on FB last week a Missing presumed stolen post as Bob had gone missing… again. Overnight this time. ‘Much loved family pet’ etc. Funnily enough he turned up the next day, rumour has it looking like he’d had a fun night.
If he was so loved you’d think they’d kennel or house him. 🤷‍♀️
Very tempting to stick a sliplead on and drive him to the nearest rescue/police station: ‘Oh look, I found this random dog I definitely don’t know running round in the road.’
 

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Two this week!

First one.

I was walking my reactive BC x GSD. We are on the street. In the distance I can see a woman with three small dogs; shih tzu types. We are on the street in a residential area. You know, with a road and pavements and cars and houses. I am on the other side of the road to her. So it turns out that only two of her dogs are on lead. The third is off lead. Did I mention that we are in the street!? So it suddenly runs up the pavement a good 100 metres, until it is adjacent to my dog. It doesn't cross the road, but proceeds to gob off at my dog, which of course, understandably, my dog reacts to. The woman makes no attempts to get her dog.

We turned around and walked the other way and went a different route.

Second one.

Bit different but I was still pretty shocked. Now this was a lovely, well behaved little dog. A small sighthound type. Perhaps a small whippet. Paid no attention whatsoever to my two that I was walking. Sounds great, right? However, the dog was off lead and we were on a busy, 40mph road which has constant traffic. Cars are whizzing past constantly. Why risk it? What hardship is it to pop a lead on?

I think my little lurcher would likely be just as good. I accidentally dropped her lead on a walk some months back. God knows how long we were walking before I realised, but she walked sweetly next to me the whole time. Just because she walks sweetly off lead next to me on the street does not detract from her being a dog. You know, who might get startled by something and jump sideways. Who might take chase if a squirrel crosses her path. Who most definitely does not know her green cross code :confused:
 

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Just seen this on a fairly local fb page

'I am trying to find a vet for my 5 month old king cane corso to get his jabs done so I can start socialising him, but all of the vets are saying no because of his breed. Can anyone recommend a vet who will take him?'

This was the gist of it, however it was littered with spelling mistakes and ranting on about him not being an XL bully. It wreaked of novice dog owner vibes.

I checked her profile and shes only recently acquired the dog.

Now I dont know what truth there is behind the vets telling her that they wont take him because of his breed, however i find it a little alarming that this youngster is 5 months old and has yet to have been vaccinated or seen anything of the world? I imagine that if vets are saying no, then its perhaps because an unvaccinated, 5 month old guarding breed with no prior socialisation, is a pretty big red flag.

Now I get the dog is only 5 months, so hopefully all is not lost, however this girl has one baby and her profile picture is a baby scan so assumedly another on the way. It was clear from her language that she is a novice dog owner. Clearly the dog has not come from a rescue centre so where on earth has she acquired an unsocialised cane corso!?

It just baffles me that she would feel a big guarding breed, who has missed vital socialisation, who will no doubt be thuggish and lacking any maturity, is a good fit in a home with a baby and another on the way.
 

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Just seen this on a fairly local fb page

'I am trying to find a vet for my 5 month old king cane corso to get his jabs done so I can start socialising him, but all of the vets are saying no because of his breed. Can anyone recommend a vet who will take him?'

This was the gist of it, however it was littered with spelling mistakes and ranting on about him not being an XL bully. It wreaked of novice dog owner vibes.

I checked her profile and shes only recently acquired the dog.

Now I dont know what truth there is behind the vets telling her that they wont take him because of his breed, however i find it a little alarming that this youngster is 5 months old and has yet to have been vaccinated or seen anything of the world? I imagine that if vets are saying no, then its perhaps because an unvaccinated, 5 month old guarding breed with no prior socialisation, is a pretty big red flag.

Now I get the dog is only 5 months, so hopefully all is not lost, however this girl has one baby and her profile picture is a baby scan so assumedly another on the way. It was clear from her language that she is a novice dog owner. Clearly the dog has not come from a rescue centre so where on earth has she acquired an unsocialised cane corso!?

It just baffles me that she would feel a big guarding breed, who has missed vital socialisation, who will no doubt be thuggish and lacking any maturity, is a good fit in a home with a baby and another on the way.
Accident waiting to happen.
 

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In Newcastle currently. Took mum to the shops yesterday and a woman was trying to stop a massive xl bully coming to say hello. I was not thrilled, given she couldn’t really hold it. Mum weighs just over 8st, I don’t fancy her chances against one of those things. It looked friendly and she was saying ‘It’s ok, he’s friendly’ but tbh, I don’t want anything like that near my 85 year old mother! 🤬
 

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Not even a dog owner... I got into an argument with my brother that I rarely see (he lives in a different country than me) and who has never owned a dog as he was telling me about a friend of his who lets his XL bully play with his (friend's) kid. Kid apparently hugs the dog and tugs on its tail. I said I thought that it was a disaster waiting to happen and that kids should be taught to respect dogs, not use them as playthings.
But apparently it's fine because "they grew up together", "have an amazing bond", "the dog will do anything for kid" and the dog "is very protective of kid". According to my brother, I'm entitled to my opinion, but I'm wrong. The fact that I'm a trained biologist with a PhD in animal behaviour (admittedly not dog behaviour), own a dog, inform myself on them and am looking to become a volunteer dog trainer at the dog club doesn't carry any weight at all. I despair.
I seriously hope that in this case the kid gets lucky and never gets hurt by the dog that adults are crazy enough to let them interact with in an unsafe manner. Why would you risk your kid's and dog's life, no matter how small the risk may seem, based on some disneyfied notion of kids and dogs?
 

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Not even a dog owner... I got into an argument with my brother that I rarely see (he lives in a different country than me) and who has never owned a dog as he was telling me about a friend of his who lets his XL bully play with his (friend's) kid. Kid apparently hugs the dog and tugs on its tail. I said I thought that it was a disaster waiting to happen and that kids should be taught to respect dogs, not use them as playthings.
But apparently it's fine because "they grew up together", "have an amazing bond", "the dog will do anything for kid" and the dog "is very protective of kid". According to my brother, I'm entitled to my opinion, but I'm wrong. The fact that I'm a trained biologist with a PhD in animal behaviour (admittedly not dog behaviour), own a dog, inform myself on them and am looking to become a volunteer dog trainer at the dog club doesn't carry any weight at all. I despair.
I seriously hope that in this case the kid gets lucky and never gets hurt by the dog that adults are crazy enough to let them interact with in an unsafe manner. Why would you risk your kid's and dog's life, no matter how small the risk may seem, based on some disneyfied notion of kids and dogs?
Arguing with your brother in another country about a friend you don’t know sounds a bit pointless to me.
 

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Arguing with your brother in another country about a friend you don’t know sounds a bit pointless to me.
My brother was actually in the room with me at the time, one of his rare visits. Arguing with my brother full stop is pointless. He is not open to new ideas, he knows everything even when he doesn't, clearly doesn't believe in scientific evidence... I'm sometimes a bit surprised? sad? that we are so different. I don't think he is someone who would be in my life if we weren't related. We find something to argue about every time I see him.
I try to (gently) educate people about dogs/horses whenever I can if I think it can help avoid future issues (particular bugbears: hands wrapped around leads / lead ropes / though head collars - bones get broken and people die that way; getting in a dog's face when you don't know it / it's clearly telling you to back off - good way to end up disfigured for life). I think pointing out that a kid is potentially in danger is never pointless even if there is nothing else I can do about it.
 

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I would have thought that with all that is going on at the moment with dog attacks, whether fatal or not, people who have the breed would be doing all they can to get their dogs under control, although I fear in many cases it will be too late.
Earlier in the week walking into the local park I gave a wide berth to an on lead possibly XL/Cane Corso. The dog was doing everything it could to try and get to mine (they were on leads), the owner was struggling to hold it but what really worried me was that if the dog had decided to go into reverse quickly it would have slipped it's collar. Never mind the 2 fingers that I was always told how to check collar tightness I thing I could have got 2 hands under there.
 

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How about this one. Dog is tied to the saddle.
I used to do that with my first dog. (held the lead not tied to the saddle) worked very well.

No criticism about the dog handing but can't say the same about the size of the owner. :(
 

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My husband…
A few weeks ago we had someone coming fix our kitchen blind. House dogs were in. I was working upstairs, he let bloke in who then asked to borrow a stepladder. He went out, leaving the dogs in the house, to get the ladder. I heard growling and hastened down to find Ffee was very worried about this strange man in the house and had gone all guardy.
Today, I was out and someone came to look at the gas fire. After the guardy incident I had nagged and nagged just to put the dogs in the kennels when workmen are here. He didn’t bother, man swung round to stroke Pen and she went for him. Didn’t actually bite but a proper threat yell ( by the sound of things). More words. Man’s an idiot.
 
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