oldandgold
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XL Bully Ban - on lunchtime news
Irresponsible Owners
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Dobiegirl
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MurphysMinder
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Well she's a charmer isn't she. Very much doubt the dog should be off lead on a playing field anyway, think if I was the owner of the shepherd I'd be showing that clip to whoever owns/manages the field.
AmyMay
Situation normal
SDMabel
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I have just had a look on that page, there are so many disgusting examples of pup / studs and bitches on there.
MurphysMinder
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That’s come about much quicker than I anticipated
Be interesting to see how well it is implemented. Don't understand why people are being given time to microchip when it as been a legal requirement for all dogs over 8 weeks to be done since 2016. Maybe if a few more fines were imposed it could go toward funding dog wardens.
Clodagh
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I’m in London and just saw a XL bully pup by Brixton tube station. Skin and bone, could barely stand, being dragged around by this man with the most terrifying demeanour. He was scarier than the dog (for now). What chance does the poor dog have?
cauda equina
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Wolfhound woman - 'You put my dog at risk by going towards the road' - that's pretty much an admission that she has no control over it
People can be so dense
Dobiegirl
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I thought that looked like a playing field too, yes she is some entitled piece of work thats for sure, thank god we dont have that problem as we mainly walk on our own land. What is it about muzzles that people think the dog must be aggressive. Ive always walked my Dobes with them as they would just fill up with cow poo.The XL Bully owners seems to think their dogs world will come to an end if they have to wear them when really it just means their dog can no longer be seen as a weapon so will be useless for them.
CanteringCarrot
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Again, better off pts.
A Malinois, if she is that, is not a dog for anyone or everyone. I love them, but even I am frank with myself about not having enough employment for one. They're 110%
I can easily see one being overly bitey in incapable hands. If she's not pts, she needs a very capable, professional home situation, which would be a rarity.
Granted, I know someone else that was bit by their dog in similar circumstances, and has had the dog for years since with nary an issue. Getting between two dogs can end that way, and yeah, it's not fair when an off-lead dog bombards another that's on lead. However, it still sounds like a dog that would be a good muzzle candidate.
There's a beautiful Malinois that I see in the home improvement shop on occasion, and the owner (a customer, not staff) keeps it muzzled. It heels and obeys commands impeccably. Very composed dog. No bite history, but the owner isn't taking chances and said that the dog does have a high drive, even if he's well directed and things in public can be unpredictable (like kids, for example) so he rather not take chances. Which is commendable and fair.
Edit: poor phrasing
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CanteringCarrot
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I've thought of a muzzle for the Lab and her beaky (aka piggy) tendencies when she was younger. Not aggressive toward people or other dogs, but aggressive toward poop and other things that may or may not be edible!
skinnydipper
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Thank you.
Well done to the owner of the GSD for coping so well with the special kind of stupid and profound ignorance of the wolfhound owner.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
What do people think will happen if they put their unadorned hand into a dog fight? Will the distressed/angry/anxious dog suddenly think 'oh gosh, a soft, yet crunchy human hand has appeared in the way of my teeth/between my teeth and the thing I want to bite, gosh, well that's calmed me right down!'?
I've done it myself, more than once, I got bit, I did not at any time blame the dog that bit me because it's a bloody dog, with sharp teeth, in an aroused state and I basically gave it something to take its frustration out on, rather than the other dog, nor did I think 'right, off to rescue, Fido!'
Also in my experience, a lot of Malinois don't 'turn' bitey, they are bitey when they come out of the womb, it's turning them 'not bitey' that's the issue for a lot of people
I've done it myself, more than once, I got bit, I did not at any time blame the dog that bit me because it's a bloody dog, with sharp teeth, in an aroused state and I basically gave it something to take its frustration out on, rather than the other dog, nor did I think 'right, off to rescue, Fido!'
Also in my experience, a lot of Malinois don't 'turn' bitey, they are bitey when they come out of the womb, it's turning them 'not bitey' that's the issue for a lot of people
CanteringCarrot
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What do people think will happen if they put their unadorned hand into a dog fight? Will the distressed/angry/anxious dog suddenly think 'oh gosh, a soft, yet crunchy human hand has appeared in the way of my teeth/between my teeth and the thing I want to bite, gosh, well that's calmed me right down!'?
I've done it myself, more than once, I got bit, I did not at any time blame the dog that bit me because it's a bloody dog, with sharp teeth, in an aroused state and I basically gave it something to take its frustration out on, rather than the other dog, nor did I think 'right, off to rescue, Fido!'
Also in my experience, a lot of Malinois don't 'turn' bitey, they are bitey when they come out of the womb, it's turning them 'not bitey' that's the issue for a lot of people
I suppose "turn bitey" wasn't the right phrasing. They are born Maligators.
SDMabel
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What do people think will happen if they put their unadorned hand into a dog fight? Will the distressed/angry/anxious dog suddenly think 'oh gosh, a soft, yet crunchy human hand has appeared in the way of my teeth/between my teeth and the thing I want to bite, gosh, well that's calmed me right down!'?
I've done it myself, more than once, I got bit, I did not at any time blame the dog that bit me because it's a bloody dog, with sharp teeth, in an aroused state and I basically gave it something to take its frustration out on, rather than the other dog, nor did I think 'right, off to rescue, Fido!'
Also in my experience, a lot of Malinois don't 'turn' bitey, they are bitey when they come out of the womb, it's turning them 'not bitey' that's the issue for a lot of people
Your posts always make me laugh
... I think you should write an idiots guide to owning a dog / having brain cells.
Caol Ila
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Here's an odd one.
Riding out with two mates yesterday, and we see two large flat-coat retriever dogs ambling about off lead. Miles behind them is an old lady pushing a walker, obviously with very limited mobility. The horses stop and go into freeze/stare mode. I think in fairness, they were being disablest and worried about the woman in the walker, who wasn't moving like a 'normal' human, but we were concerned by the dogs. Owner makes no attempt to call them to her. Scowls when asked to. My friend gets quite panicky and jumps off her horse. Once they had a human leader, they all tentatively shuffle forward. The dogs, in fairness, are fine, but they eyeball us. I can't say 100% they will be fine.
Dog walker gets offended by our obvious reaction to her dogs. Friend says, "There have been a few attacks in the park." As we pass, I note dog walker is extremely frail and isn't even carrying leads.
Maybe I'm being harsh and overly-judgemental, but I just can't think it's that responsible to go into a public park with two big dogs that you do not, in any way, shape, or form, have the physical strength to hold on a lead, apparently don't have close vocal control over, and not even bother with bringing a lead. I'm happy when people call their dogs over, and the dogs heel or sit without the lead. These ones were fine with the horses, but you never know who you'll meet. Other dogs, people who are afraid of dogs, etc.
Riding out with two mates yesterday, and we see two large flat-coat retriever dogs ambling about off lead. Miles behind them is an old lady pushing a walker, obviously with very limited mobility. The horses stop and go into freeze/stare mode. I think in fairness, they were being disablest and worried about the woman in the walker, who wasn't moving like a 'normal' human, but we were concerned by the dogs. Owner makes no attempt to call them to her. Scowls when asked to. My friend gets quite panicky and jumps off her horse. Once they had a human leader, they all tentatively shuffle forward. The dogs, in fairness, are fine, but they eyeball us. I can't say 100% they will be fine.
Dog walker gets offended by our obvious reaction to her dogs. Friend says, "There have been a few attacks in the park." As we pass, I note dog walker is extremely frail and isn't even carrying leads.
Maybe I'm being harsh and overly-judgemental, but I just can't think it's that responsible to go into a public park with two big dogs that you do not, in any way, shape, or form, have the physical strength to hold on a lead, apparently don't have close vocal control over, and not even bother with bringing a lead. I'm happy when people call their dogs over, and the dogs heel or sit without the lead. These ones were fine with the horses, but you never know who you'll meet. Other dogs, people who are afraid of dogs, etc.
Goldenstar
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Her dogs did not trouble the horses and People on walkers have an absolute right to go where they want, personally I would have turned round and gone elsewhere if met with an old lady with a Walker and dogs .
I would not have expected her to stop or do anything to accommodate me . I would have got my large easily startled prey animal far away from the elderly disabled human .
Yes she’s is taking a risk with dogs but its her business .
I would not have expected her to stop or do anything to accommodate me . I would have got my large easily startled prey animal far away from the elderly disabled human .
Yes she’s is taking a risk with dogs but its her business .
Caol Ila
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I expect everyone else to call their dogs over to them if asked, which is what my friend did. They were a fair distance from their human. So far away we didn't know she was the owner until it became apparent that the handful of other walkers about weren't.
Jenko109
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There are no words.
SilverLinings
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Some 'breeders' (I use the term loosely as it implies the puppies were intentional and that careful thought was put into the process ) seem to have no concept of lining up buyers BEFORE mating the bitch do they. Especially if you are going to produce an unusually large dog that won't be suitable for a lot of homes
Will a puppy like that sell for £3k? That's a massive money spinner if they sell all of their 'large litter'.
) seem to have no concept of lining up buyers BEFORE mating the bitch do they. Especially if you are going to produce an unusually large dog that won't be suitable for a lot of homes Will a puppy like that sell for £3k? That's a massive money spinner if they sell all of their 'large litter'.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
The neck on them, charging that for an oops litter.
I refuse to believe anyone would cross those two breeds on purpose.
Imagine an Irish Wolfhound-sized Dutchie. Class. 'Nah I'm not doing that. Make me'.
I refuse to believe anyone would cross those two breeds on purpose.
Imagine an Irish Wolfhound-sized Dutchie. Class. 'Nah I'm not doing that. Make me'.
SaddlePsych'D
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I had to Google 'Dutch Herder'. Good grief is all I can say. Good. Grief.
Clodagh
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Of course they planned it.
Planning meeting… Wolfhound confirmed to have testicles.
Herder confirmed a uterus as she bled.
Ideal! £££
Nasicus
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A relative of mine recently posted pictures of yet another litter her poor, older bitch had. Claimed it 'wasn't exactly planned'.
Absolute bull, considering the bitch is entire, and you somehow managed to get her in the vicinity of an entire french bulldog long enough to impregnate her.
We all know that's an attempt to deflect from the criticism intentionally breeding your older bitch once again just to line your pocket would rightfully draw.
Christmascinnamoncookie
Fais pas chier!
£3K for a random cross? Are they having a laugh?! And for dogs that will be massive? Pi$$ takers!
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
Some idiot will buy them because they will look so sweet as puppies , then they will get rid when they grow
Titchy Pony
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Maybe, but if was going to idiotically buy a random cute puppy, I'd at least get a cheap one... I'd want it do come with a diamond studded collar for that price!
Keith_Beef
Novice equestrian, accomplished equichetrian
But the more it costs, the better it is, innit?!!???
Chucho
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That's more than our champion line, health tested pure bred boxers cost each... and a huge amount of time, money and effort has gone into producing our dogs.
AShetlandBitMeOnce
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Irresponsible is whoever bred this bitch...
https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/rehoming/dogs/dobermann/3065476
A merle doberman, I really have now seen it all! And in a rescue at not even 12 months old when someone presumably paid a pretty penny for her.
I was looking through their dogs and I am actually really shocked at how many 'designer' breeds there are there.. Frenchies, Dalmations, Dobermans, Antolian Shepherd, S Bernard, DDB and so on and so forth..
https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/rehoming/dogs/dobermann/3065476
A merle doberman, I really have now seen it all! And in a rescue at not even 12 months old when someone presumably paid a pretty penny for her.
I was looking through their dogs and I am actually really shocked at how many 'designer' breeds there are there.. Frenchies, Dalmations, Dobermans, Antolian Shepherd, S Bernard, DDB and so on and so forth..